Do you think your drug use has altered your outlook?

[rentedbythehour]

I have to say the state of the US has been on my mind a lot. There are a lot of hot topics out there right now. I have my own personal beliefs about things. I wondered how much of it was shaped by my drug use. Would I still be the way I am if I had never done drugs?
I come from a very conservative family. I was raised in a very religious house. There was no drug use, alcohol, or irresponsible behavior at all when I was growing up. I was not exposed to anything like that until my teen years. I grew up in the club 'rave' scene in Tampa in the 90s. I did plenty of the party drugs. Actually I did every drug available back then, didn't really matter what it was. I honestly think that time, experimentation, helped me become a more open and less judgemental, accepting person overall. I'm wondering if anyone else has thought about this or how you think your use has influenced who you are as a person.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

I believe only a certain type of people are interested in taking substances as a means of enjoyment and or escape. For me personally I thought psychedelics would provide an answer to what I assumed was missing in my life. Psychedelics opened my mind by lowering my inhibitions that allowed me to be one with life.
I chose psychedelics over all other drugs for their medicinal value to become what and who I am meant to be. There was no other way for me than the path I took to become a whole person. Everyone is unique by the choices they make of which these choices define who we are and destined to be.

 

[kiely]

PREVENTIVE HEALTHCARE, for future generations from now could likely help a lot of medical problems vanish...

Biology is a very powerful machine ... But people seem to have forgotten that ....

There are many studies that say drugs can be helpful.

And Adderall is a drug that can be very helpful also, if it is not abused.

Vyvanse gives you a steady dose of lysine

Methylphenidate has mild hyperglycemic and hypokalemia effects and increases leukocyte and neutrophil counts - PubMed

Various psychotropic drugs may affect the hematological and biochemical profiles of plasma and its metabolism. Carbamazepine, the most well-known psychotropic drug, can cause substantial hyponatremia. Methylphenidate, a piperidine derivative structurally related to amphetamines, acts as a...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Decreased Risk of Influenza in Child and Adolescent Patients with Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder Following Methylphenidate Treatment: A Nationwide Cohort Study in Taiwan - PMC

Young individuals with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) may have an elevated risk of influenza because of the difficulty in complying with the behavioral procedures that help protect against influenza. Moreover, the effects of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I think there are many drugs that can be a benefit if used properly and appropriately in the most healthiest ways possible too.

Good psychedelics can even be spiritually helpful and don't seem to be as harmful as many other issues in the world.

There seem to be many studies on this topic however, that are not quite mainstream yet.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Vyvanse gives you a steady dose of lysine

I think you might have meant that the Lysine in Vyvanse gives a steady state of dexamfetamine hence the name Lisdexamfetamine.

Sorry if I am being anal. but seriously, it (Vyvanse) has been a lifesaver for me for two years now and I am no spring chicken.

I have learned that the more good things I do for myself in my own interest for the better of my life, the more I feel the Vyvanse agreeing and giving me a reward with a great mental and body comfort. (what I had been searching for throughout my youth for over 30 years).

So OT, yes drug use has altered my life for the better, in the sense that I am still alive, am relatively healthy, and can take 1 pill a day to live a life with a light at the end of the tunnel.

The drug on its own will not solve anything, I still need to steer my focus and it is not easy, but I am getting better day by day.

Sorry @kiely didn't mean to go on a bit of a rant, but just was typing what I was thinking after adding my 2 cents to your quote,

 

[jasperkent]

Psychedelics helped me to greatly expand my horizons in a spiritual/philosophical sense.

Living with various severe addictions helped me learn to live frugally.

Also, I've met all kinds of interesting people in jails & rehabs that I otherwise would never have met.

 

[foodcrisis]

i didn't really understand why drugs should be legal before taking them.. before i smoked weed, i was just a kid and didn't really know psychedelics had emotional healing properties. i thought drugs were just getting fucked up and escaping.

i dunno about politics. before drugs i was generally pretty lazy and not very good in school, so i was drawn to punk music before drugs with socialist lyrics and stuff cause i felt like i was pretty good at music but didn't have any means to make my way through society financially... i dunno. i just realized how hard it is to get by working lower wage jobs and felt stupid, so being lazy i was drawn to anarchism and socialism where people generally get the same stuff. lol... also punk music got me feeling shitty about stuff going on in different parts of the world. drugs didn't really do that to me, but drugs made me maybe realize that other people's stuff can hit pretty close to home. i can be more emotional about bad stuff after trying drugs. maybe bad stuff used to anger me and now it makes me depressed.

drugs made me wonder about experiencing other people's realities in different parts of time though. i probably wouldn't have had that in my life or really thought about weird spiritual stuff as much.. like i'm afraid of getting reincarnated as bacteria at this point in my life. can't say i'd have those thoughts if it weren't for salvia and psychedelics in general. not something i know is true, but lots of wondering about spiritual stuff crosses my mind.

 

[foodcrisis]

Also, I've met all kinds of interesting people in jails & rehabs that I otherwise would never have met.

definitely for me with this.

 

[4DQSAR]

Vyvanse gives you a steady dose of lysine

Methylphenidate has mild hyperglycemic and hypokalemia effects and increases leukocyte and neutrophil counts - PubMed

Various psychotropic drugs may affect the hematological and biochemical profiles of plasma and its metabolism. Carbamazepine, the most well-known psychotropic drug, can cause substantial hyponatremia. Methylphenidate, a piperidine derivative structurally related to amphetamines, acts as a...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Decreased Risk of Influenza in Child and Adolescent Patients with Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder Following Methylphenidate Treatment: A Nationwide Cohort Study in Taiwan - PMC

Young individuals with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) may have an elevated risk of influenza because of the difficulty in complying with the behavioral procedures that help protect against influenza. Moreover, the effects of ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lysine is an essential amino acid and a healthy 70Kg person requires 800-3000 mg/day. So how much lisdexamphetamine would one have to consume for a meaningful amount of lysine being bioavailable?

MW of lisdexamphetamine 263.4
MW of dexamphetamine 135.2
MW of lysine 146.2

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Lysine is an essential amino acid and a healthy 70Kg person requires 800-3000 mg/day. So how much lisdexamphetamine would one have to consume for a meaningful amount of lysine being bioavailable?

MW of lisdexamphetamine 263.4
MW of dexamphetamine 135.2
MW of lysine 146.2

I think it was a typo but will let @kiely explain

 

[4DQSAR]

I think it was a typo but will let @kiely explain

Well, here's the first paper which only discusses methylphenidate and the conclusions are hardly a hearty recommendation of it's use and they fail to mention anywhere that it's an anorexiant so the cohort may not be consuming a healthy diet. I find the fact that the issue isn't even mentioned a little worrying.

Methylphenidate has mild hyperglycemic and hypokalemia effects and increases leukocyte and neutrophil counts | 10.1097/MD.0000000000020931_SciHub

sci-hub.hlgczx.com

I read but sadly cannot provide a link to the second paper but, again, methylphenidate. It's a South Korean study and while I'm ignorant of the detail, I'm led to understand that the government has instututed a more holistic approach so that many problems encountered in everyday life are identified and management of the symptoms detailed in their actions. But again, no mention of diet.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Well, here's the first paper which only discusses methylphenidate and the conclusions are hardly a hearty recommendation of it's use and they fail to mention anywhere that it's an anorexiant so the cohort may not be consuming a healthy diet. I find the fact that the issue isn't even mentioned a little worrying.

This has gone right over my head, sorry didn't read any references supplied, was only taking a chance at the fact in the quote, just swap vyvanse and lysine(first & last words around).
Then the statement makes sense, but at that mistake, I didn't investigate further by opening the links.

I could be way off, but honestly think it was an innocent mistake, not commenting on the links in any shape or form.

 

[Robi]

Oh boy has it ever,I got hooked on opioids ( hahaha,auto correct posted police instead of opioids,glad I caught that) for a year,10 k worth and I am forever changed.It's been years and years without, I still want them but damn it awesome not to be a slave to it all,I haven't been lying,I was truly forgiven.That lying ate my conscience, I am one that judges self first before others,Virgo thing.but yes my outlook is better,I sure got lucky,no jail,no death,no divorce.

 

[kiely]

Lysine is an essential amino acid and a healthy 70Kg person requires 800-3000 mg/day. So how much lisdexamphetamine would one have to consume for a meaningful amount of lysine being bioavailable?

MW of lisdexamphetamine 263.4
MW of dexamphetamine 135.2
MW of lysine 146.2

Typo. Still learning in the drug Evolution. Thank you for your contributions and comments .... besides the classic usual scenario and stereotype ...... Drugs Bad. Bad bad do no drugs bad.

I am suffering right now from a great big giant debilitating Migraine or may be a ( cluster type ) headache. So my drug right now to combat is a giant sized brick Ice Cooler pack .

So bad bad bad Icepack. Big giant ice pack Bad !!!! ( sarcasm ) See I'm normal sometimes too.

However, through all the suffering and pain I am in right now. I know in my heart that some amphetamine would immediately clear everything and Help me stop the excruciating pain and suffering. So I really think that deep in my heart that drugs don't always have to be Bad.

And can and would alter my outlook into having a much better quality of life. Not everything that is drug related is a Lie. And truth often gets covered up and buried as a control
and power tactic. If I had amphetamine all could be good again and I know it would work and completely be the best solution possible .... instead of a pathetic R ride to the emergency room in an ambulance. I can't get to a hospital. Or get to the best answer right now ... amphetamine.

Words can't really explain it right now but with the hope and the prayers and the Ice Pack I am still not sure if I can hold out and survive it until tomorrow. I don't have much faith in being alive for too much longer. I am convinced this is going to kill me right now. God help..

If I do live to see tomorrow I hope that it won't get and be too much more painful. Right now however is that all I can think of is how I am in Love with an Ice pack.

Thank you.

 

[kiely]

I think it was a typo but will let @kiely explain

I cant edit right now. @shreddedlettuce ! Or function. Thank you ?! k bye.

 

[rentedbythehour]

I am suffering right now from a great big giant debilitating Migraine

I completely sympathize with you. That's been my major health issue though out my life. I've been on meds from preventatives to meds to treat when they're coming on, to emergency break thru meds. Add the depression, anxiety that goes with a chronic disease, more meds. And I firmly believe I have fibromyalgia now because of all those meds I've taken for so long. Never ending cycle.

However, through all the suffering and pain I am in right now. I know in my heart that some amphetamine would immediately clear everything and Help me stop the excruciating pain and suffering.

This right here is the main reason I use. I only use meth. I don't smoke, drink, smoke weed. Just my scripts and meth. It's been working pretty well for me for the past 2 years or so. Going from daily migraines to a handful a month is not a bad side effect in my opinion.

 

[kiely]

I have done illegal drugs for therapeutic purposes before.

Sometimes a few little bumps or two can be helpful, when the benefits

can outweigh the risks. Then what is wrong. Always was helpful to me.

Thnx.

Thank you for listening. That's a game changer, right there, and comments lol.

 

[PtahTek]

Oh, for sure!
Since my first hit of weed when I was about 7 I knew everything was a lie or illusion. Over 50 years later and here I sit trying still to separate from that lie.

 

[chippermonk]

For me, I grew up in a conservative, boring small town and I always felt like an alienated outsider to it all. For me, getting high seemed like a "righteous" good thing to do. Experimentation, excitement, fit in with the music I loved. And I had some mushroom and LSD experiences that really made me feel like I had been given really different perspectives on Life that actually meant something ( gotta say, though, just because something is vivid and weird doesn't make it true )
As I got into adulthood, I mostly stopped getting high, with occasional exceptions. It just didn't fit with work and family, and none of my friends got high beyond weed. The last few years I have swung back to getting high more, though I can't handle weed, am a little afraid of psychedelics, and have no connections or friends for getting any drugs anyhow, other than kratom and the occasional substance that falls in my lap.
For me now drugs are partly fun and a hobby that interests me, and partly a way to try to fine-tune my depressed moods and anxieties. But I question their value for that, honestly.
I toy some with the idea of using psychedelics for exploration and healing but I dunno. I appreciate having my head screwed on and able to think. My precious equilibrium feels too precarious to be fucking with it too much.
Anyhow, it's been nice chatting and listening here on BL these last couple years.. I've learned some new perspectives and information

 

[Parabolan]

Ketamine made me realize how a lot of complicated stuff actually worked. I really dunno how to explain it.