Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 10

[therendezvous]

The shame is crazy. The shame of being on this medication. The shame of accepting it. The shame of everything I did when I was in psychosis. It’s terrible. I’m so ashamed and in such pain. How could I do this to myself?

Its usually the surrounding environment that triggers you into psychosis, not being cared of. A psychosis can be managed and cured with the right loving people around you and some time at home.

 

[rawbanana]

Its usually the surrounding environment that triggers you into psychosis, not being cared of. A psychosis can be managed and cured with the right loving people around you and some time at home.

I agree. I wasn’t lucky enough to have that.

 

[rawbanana]

I got 4 shots, I suspect permanent damage as well. Just that I haven’t got better in the slightest

Did you feel like the effects were subtle at first that you almost didn’t notice? And by the time you got your 4th shot it was too late and you did monstrous damage?

That’s how I feel. I didn’t notice the buildup of the damage until it was already in effect. This is such an evil insane practice and whoever prescribes it like this takes advantage of vulnerable individuals. There’s no excuse for this. Those doctors should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Matthew01]

So I called the psychologist I know and he said he would recommend a psychiatrist for me. He said he knows a brilliant one. Don't trust him very much because i live in a third world country. The big problem is that he's having exams and it ends in three weeks time. He said that if he had time, he would call me back. I'm so sick and tired of waiting,I suffer every day and i don't even require it.i also have to think about if the psychiatrist is trustworthy or not,this is so stressful. He also said he knows people from abroad but they are very busy. I really hope this works. Anybody thoughts about this?

 

[rawbanana]

So I called the psychologist I know and he said he would recommend a psychiatrist for me. He said he knows a brilliant one. Don't trust him very much because i live in a third world country. The big problem is that he's having exams and it ends in three weeks time. He said that if he had time, he would call me back. I'm so sick and tired of waiting,I suffer every day and i don't even require it.i also have to think about if the psychiatrist is trustworthy or not,this is so stressful. He also said he knows people from abroad but they are very busy. I really hope this works. Anybody thoughts about this?

There is no drug that can fix the damage done by this. The only thing you can do is wait for the drug to wear off and to heal. There’s nothing else that can be done.

 

[Matthew01]

There is no drug that can fix the damage done by this. The only thing you can do is wait for the drug to wear off and to heal. There’s nothing else that can be done.

No,I read the interaction between apomorphine and clopixol,it reduces the thereupitic efficacy of it. Dopamine antagonists block dopamine receptors and dopamine agonists activate them. They do the exact opposite of dopamine antagonists. Some guy also posted that dopamine agonists helped with the effect of his antipsychotics.It has to work,shouldn't it? The problem is blocked dopamine receptors, right? I just need a dopamine agonist with a higher affinity level to overpower it, right?

 

[rawbanana]

No,I read the interaction between apomorphine and clopixol,it reduces the thereupitic efficacy of it. Dopamine antagonists block dopamine receptors and dopamine agonists activate them. They do the exact opposite of dopamine antagonists. Some guy also posted that dopamine agonists helped with the effect of his antipsychotics.It has to work,shouldn't it? The problem is blocked dopamine receptors, right? I just need a dopamine agonist with a higher affinity level to overpower it, right?

If you google the mechanism of action of these drugs, it is mostly unknown. They theorize that it blocks dopamine and serotonin but there is no clear understanding.

It’s not like simple math where a positive cancels a negative. It’s complex pharmacology that even the scientists who discovered the drugs don’t know exactly how it works.

You are free to try whatever you want but I doubt it it will work the way you want.

 

[Matthew01]

If you google the mechanism of action of these drugs, it is mostly unknown. They theorize that it blocks dopamine and serotonin but there is no clear understanding.

It’s not like simple math where a positive cancels a negative. It’s complex pharmacology that even the scientists who discovered the drugs don’t know exactly how it works.

You are free to try whatever you want but I doubt it it will work the way you want.

I still have to try. Living like this is hell and I want my life back. Can't even think properly. Also I think I read a case about dopamine agonists being used to treats the effects of antipsychotics so I might be on the right track. It's already been 3 months for me and it's pure torture. I can feel it in my dreams, feel like there's no escape. Also they gave me akineton twice and that helped with the movement problem and blurry vision(I think the first time)

 

[rawbanana]

I still have to try. Living like this is hell and I want my life back. Can't even think properly. Also I think I read a case about dopamine agonists being used to treats the effects of antipsychotics so I might be on the right track. It's already been 3 months for me and it's pure torture. I can feel it in my dreams, feel like there's no escape. Also they gave me akineton twice and that helped with the movement problem and blurry vision(I think the first time)

I feel the same way as you. It’s been 6.5 months for me and it’s horrible. I wish I could tell you that it ends but it takes a while. You only got one shot so chances are it’ll be out of your system in 6 months so you will be okay. It’s really unfair that this happens. None of us deserved this.

 

[Matthew01]

I feel the same way as you. It’s been 6.5 months for me and it’s horrible. I wish I could tell you that it ends but it takes a while. You only got one shot so chances are it’ll be out of your system in 6 months so you will be okay. It’s really unfair that this happens. None of us deserved this.

How are you so sure?If it gets out of my system by that time,I just hope that I will be same as before. I just want to be the exact same as before. That's why I'm so eager to get dopamine agonists. They do the opposite effect. How can I get injected a powerful antipsychotic for nothing?

 

[rawbanana]

How are you so sure?If it gets out of my system by that time,I just hope that I will be same as before. I just want to be the exact same as before. That's why I'm so eager to get dopamine agonists. They do the opposite effect. How can I get injected a powerful antipsychotic for nothing?

I’m not sure. I don’t know. Nobody knows. It might take a year. Two years. You might never recover if I’m being honest. This is the same way I feel.

I want to be exactly the same as before but it’s probably not possible. But like I said, these antipsychotics affect more than just dopamine. And a dopamine agonist does not necessarily fix the problem because the antipsychotics downregulates the receptors. I never studied this but I have a basic understanding that it’s not a simple fix. I still encourage you to try it if that’s what you want to do.

 

[rawbanana]

There are people on here who got one or two shots and they recover and say they feel even better than they felt before. So I’m hoping that happens for me. It’s not likely but I am hoping.

 

[paranoid android]

How are you so sure?If it gets out of my system by that time,I just hope that I will be same as before. I just want to be the exact same as before. That's why I'm so eager to get dopamine agonists. They do the opposite effect. How can I get injected a powerful antipsychotic for nothing?

Honestly i dont see dopamine agonists being your savior. They have some pretty nasty side effects imo. Also unlike amphetamines they have no rec value

 

[Matthew01]

Honestly i dont see dopamine agonists being your savior. They have some pretty nasty side effects imo. Also unlike amphetamines they have no rec value

I don't think that would be a problem.Some of the side effects of the drugs are compulsive behavior and I don't think that would happen because I feel so emotionless. I wonder what is exactly going in my brain. Are my dopamine receptors still blocked or are there any damages? I read online that this clopixol blocks dopamine receptors. Is there more than meets the eye?

 

[paranoid android]

I don't think that would be a problem.Some of the side effects of the drugs are compulsive behavior and I don't think that would happen because I feel so emotionless. I wonder what is exactly going in my brain. Are my dopamine receptors still blocked or are there any damages? I read online that this clopixol blocks dopamine receptors. Is there more than meets the eye?

Clopixol is a pretty strong d2 antagonist but its not like dopamine agonists just open them up. Also when used for things iike parkinsons you need higher and higher doses of dopamine agonists.

Honestly i would just give t time

 

[Matthew01]

Clopixol is a pretty strong d2 antagonist but its not like dopamine agonists just open them up. Also when used for things iike parkinsons you need higher and higher doses of dopamine agonists.

Honestly i would just give t time

I'm not using them for parkinsons, I using them to help with the effects of the clopixol. Also apomorphine and cabergoline are very strong dopamine agonist so it would compete and replace the clopixol,right?

 

[invegetable]

I'm not using them for parkinsons, I using them to help with the effects of the clopixol. Also apomorphine and cabergoline are very strong dopamine agonist so it would compete and replace the clopixol,right?

Its possible and worth a try in my opinion, I've used cabergoline in the past with little effect, it made me drowsy but it may be different for you and there's also the fact that you have a dopamine deficit. In any case, I remember it gave me nausea but no severe side effects. I mean everything is safe compared to the shit we're on. You don't have to get it prescribed, I'd assume they still sell generic cabergoline online.

 

[Matthew01]

Its possible and worth a try in my opinion, I've used cabergoline in the past with little effect, it made me drowsy but it may be different for you and there's also the fact that you have a dopamine deficit. In any case, I remember it gave me nausea but no severe side effects. I mean everything is safe compared to the shit we're on. You don't have to get it prescribed, I'd assume they still sell generic cabergoline online.

You've tried cabergoline in the past? Were you injected with an antipsychotic? Did it at least help with your severely reduced motivation,joy,happiness,sexual desire and severely restricted emotions? That's what I'm going through. I feel emotionless.

 

[invegetable]

You've tried cabergoline in the past? Were you injected with an antipsychotic? Did it at least help with your severely reduced motivation,joy,happiness,sexual desire and severely restricted emotions? That's what I'm going through. I feel emotionless.

Yeah I did but this is before I had antipsychotics in my body it did not do anything for motivation, joy, maybe it made me a little horny but nothing crazy.

 

[Matthew01]

Yeah I did but this is before I had antipsychotics in my body it did not do anything for motivation, joy, maybe it made me a little horny but nothing crazy.

Please can you tell me the reason why you took such drugs? Where you going through something?