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Japanese Drug user with strong enthusiasm for otaku culture

Well is Etizolam really still in medical use ? In Japan, like it used to be in Italy.
It was that is known, its a very good [Thieno] Benzodiazepine.
Which is almost nowhere in use, despite that. Which imo is weird.

Etizolam, Diazepam, Clobazam, all very useful though the first not used.
Medically, over here ?

And i ll take my place in the row, as i def wanna visit Japan to.
Etizolam(デパス Depas) are considered as most addictive benzo, mentally ill group of people on internet would mention that lot of time. along with strong zero which is beer with 9 percent alcohol and it's cheap way to get drunk.
They'd also "Overdose" on OTC medicine like Bron with ephedrine-caffeine-dihydrocodeine speedball. they're the one I consider it to be it's own drug. very stimulating opioid that can be strong and it's OTC, contains lot of caffeine and ephedrine along with antihistamine so it's bad for your body but I find it good for pre workout.

Japanese doctor prescribe benzo and anti psychotics easily, I was basically destroyed by being on abilify when I was 14. they probably prescribed it for anxiety but I did not need it. and they got me addicted to "use as needed" lorazepam which I didn't know how bad withdrawal could be. The worst feeling I've felt during that life arc could be attributed to perpetual benzo withdrawal.


Japan has been designating themselves as tourist friendly country. that destroyed aesthetics of akihabara's mainstreet. I really hate seeing foreigner on akihabara.
But it would be nice for good willed people who actually respect this country to visit and spend lot of money, our currency are very cheap right now compared to dollar.
The thing sold in dollar would cost 1.5x than back in 2018.
 
Saw Tree s in Japan that were so old and blended with the surrounding s.
The Netherland s most of it, flat as pancake, and besides the exception.
Most Tree s cut before reaching 100, Last ancient Forest gone 1870.

So all cultivated land. Well we got research chemical s till end Juni.
Etizolam long gone, was my favourite RC Benzo. Not the most addicting ime.
Rather most forgiving.

Edit; we got to nuclear power plants to btw, building a 3-rd is in the pipeline.
The one nearby, you guessed it situated on the coast line. What a smart ass move.
 
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Welcome! I lived in Japan for 3 years. Because of the strict drug laws and the fact I was a foreigner living there, I decided to abstain from all substances while there. It was a nice 3-year break and I loved it there, but it's nice to be back with psychedelia again.
 
Kind of ironic of someone new like me saying welcome, but welcome. Seeing people from japan interested in this stuff warms my heart a lot. Your laws are pretty fucked, unfortunately. Not like it has ever stopped the more motivated people, though.

You will have to forgive me, I'm one of those foreigners that really likes going to akihabara when i go to japan. I'm more addicted to Bemani and shmups than any other substance.

As a heads up, next year there will be an european-organized techno event in several cities in japan, and it's all by and for people that are close to your likes. I'm absolutely sure you'll be able to find cool people that share your same interests, even in terms of drugs. Maybe that'll make the gaijin factor more tolerable, talking about the things you usually don't talk about. I'll understand if that sounds like something you don't want to get involved into, though.

And you're not the only one who's tried to get into Gensokyo. I know what that means, and so do many others. Things can get better, with or without drugs.
 
Greetings from Canada! I have a friend that also enjoys otaku culture, although I think that this is only because he has an asian fetish. Have you tried 1-s-LSD? It’s one of the few legal psychedelics in Japan and quite a unique molecule.
 
I'm more addicted to Bemani and shmups than any other substance.
Bemani is the best, I've been looking down people who plays SEGA rhythm games like maimai or Ongeki because they're more made for casuals and underage teenagers. The kind of people who plays beatmania would be STEM university students with no social circles or hobbies to do other than spending many credits on beatmania.
About a year ago I was playing beatmania to kill the time until the sunset as I was too anhedonic from antipsychotics, and could not enjoy things for whole day so I decided to only go back to my room and do things I like after 6PM.

shmups are also very cool, I've known about things like CAVE shmups since I was kid but Touhou introduced me to those genre in terms of actually playing them and getting good at it. I've been playing arcade shmups in emulator(with "illegally downloaded" roms) and having fun with it.
And you're not the only one who's tried to get into Gensokyo. I know what that means, and so do many others. Things can get better, with or without drugs.
Recently I have been taking too many drugs, I am poly addicted to Pregabalin and Tramadol and taking them every day was worst thing I could do, and I did that anyway.
I've came to realization that if I cannot control myself, I'll lose all of my passions. I will not be martyred to be reincarnated into Gensokyo if I ruined my life from those substances. I have been tapering them slowly.
Getting High every day and not increasingly getting tolerance was impossible to achieve with these very limited selection of substances. Many times I envy people in US for having access to things like kratom or cannabis and all other things.
If I tried to get any of that, I will be instantly caught by the Japanese DEA.

Greetings from Canada! I have a friend that also enjoys otaku culture, although I think that this is only because he has an asian fetish. Have you tried 1-s-LSD? It’s one of the few legal psychedelics in Japan and quite a unique molecule.
I should try one of those LSD analogues. There are things like synthetic cannabinoids or RC stimulants. but these can be made illegal any times. They seems to care less about psychedelics.
I've done LSA and had some good experience just as much as bad or mediocre ones. The first 2~3 hours of that substance are hellish and Every time I take them I envy the people with access to easier things like actual tablets of LSD.
 
Etizolam(デパス Depas) are considered as most addictive benzo,
But are they ? If so that wou mean you have no prescription Benzo s basically,
besides maybe Clobazam. That s of-course my opinion but it seem s.
So Japan also suffer s from a impaired medical field.
Absurd idea s by dr s, the experts , on Etizolam.
One of the most forgiving Benzo s on earth.

And a as i read the Gouvernement, religious strict against recreational drug s.

inc. a wicked view on Cannabis. rule NR. 1 don t mention :weedleaf: in Japan.
Might be wrong never been there but it seems beautiful country.
 
But are they ? If so that wou mean you have no prescription Benzo s basically,
besides maybe Clobazam. That s of-course my opinion but it seem s.
So Japan also suffer s from a impaired medical field.
Absurd idea s by dr s, the experts , on Etizolam.
One of the most forgiving Benzo s on earth.

And a as i read the Gouvernement, religious strict against recreational drug s.

inc. a wicked view on Cannabis. rule NR. 1 don t mention :weedleaf: in Japan.
Might be wrong never been there but it seems beautiful country.
I didn't deliver the meaning well with "considered as".
More like a benzo that people mentions, since they're stronger one of prescription benzo.
Benzo can be prescribed very easily among with anti-psychotics and SSRIs/SNRIs.
Patients don't really research what they're taking, so sometimes it makes thing worse like it did to me.
Japan is very forgiving for prescription meds because they all think doctor knows what they're doing.
Prescription abuse is common for non-criminal case of drug abuse. It's mostly young females.

Japanese drug culture is basically formed by those mentally ill group of females and every legal high is associated with it, meanwhile cannabis or any other illegal things are evil just because they're illegal.
Japanese consider themselves to be areligious, and do things better than people restricting themselves with outdated religious moral such. they look down on muslim nations for doing that.
Meanwhile they follow laws as moral authority that works same as other religions, violating laws is religious moral crime in here.
Mentioning cannabis will make them give you weird look if you do it as foreigner,
if a Japanese person talk about cannabis in non-negative way, he is being pretentious there by mentioning criminal things trying too hard to be cool .
 
I didn't deliver the meaning well with "considered as".
More like a benzo that people mentions, since they're stronger one of prescription benzo.
Benzo can be prescribed very easily among with anti-psychotics and SSRIs/SNRIs.
Patients don't really research what they're taking, so sometimes it makes thing worse like it did to me.
Japan is very forgiving for prescription meds because they all think doctor knows what they're doing.
Prescription abuse is common for non-criminal case of drug abuse. It's mostly young females.

Japanese drug culture is basically formed by those mentally ill group of females and every legal high is associated with it, meanwhile cannabis or any other illegal things are evil just because they're illegal.
Japanese consider themselves to be areligious, and do things better than people restricting themselves with outdated religious moral such. they look down on muslim nations for doing that.
Meanwhile they follow laws as moral authority that works same as other religions, violating laws is religious moral crime in here.
Mentioning cannabis will make them give you weird look if you do it as foreigner,
if a Japanese person talk about cannabis in non-negative way, he is being pretentious there by mentioning criminal things trying too hard to be cool .
"mentally ill group of females" i thought that how they are that its there basic constitution ?
No just joking, as i had a few bad experiences, guess i seek em or they find me.
But Imo, besides my Mom, most female are mentally skilled. Just needs balance.

And that is where men are of use counter balance. Creating a equilibrium, like two became one.
And one was more then the sum of the two. Don t be harsh on female s, or males. LGBH+.. etc.
Better blame your parent's or better yet society. Imposing gender on people as if it is of any significance.

Beside the multinational industry, that plays with our mind as it were toys. Males form in the womb.
Before that, we are all females. With the exception to the rule Hermaphrodites.

Maybe it will end in a form of total homeostasis.
 
dopemelancholy,

Can you still buy codeine and dihydrocodeine in Japanese pharmacies over the counter? When I lived in Tokyo 20 years ago, the local pharmacy sold some pill that had DHC, ephedrine (I think?), and some powerful antihistamine. They were pretty enjoyable.
I also remember someone telling me you could buy 2C-C, 2C-E, and other psychedelics in headshops. But all I ever found in headshops was absinthe. I wasn't quite sure why I even found headshops there. After all, marijuana didn't seem to be a big thing there.
 

Is it true that this medicine is available without prescription?

Ingredients and amount:

In 60 mL:

Dihydrocodeine phosphate 30 mg: Acts on the cough center in the medulla oblongata, suppressing the onset of cough.

Guaifenesin 170 mg: Enhances the secretion function of the respiratory mucosa, thins mucus, and promotes its expulsion.

Chlorpheniramine maleate 12 mg: Suppresses allergic cough.

Anhydrous caffeine 62 mg: Supports the functions of other ingredients.


Each bottle is 120ml. Because although tricky, it's not impossible to extract the dihydrocodeine and if refluxed with hydrobromic acid - you get pure dihydromorphine which is ten times more potent.
 
"mentally ill group of females" i thought that how they are that its there basic constitution ?
No just joking, as i had a few bad experiences, guess i seek em or they find me.
But Imo, besides my Mom, most female are mentally skilled. Just needs balance.

And that is where men are of use counter balance. Creating a equilibrium, like two became one.
And one was more then the sum of the two. Don t be harsh on female s, or males. LGBH+.. etc.
Better blame your parent's or better yet society. Imposing gender on people as if it is of any significance.

Beside the multinational industry, that plays with our mind as it were toys. Males form in the womb.
Before that, we are all females. With the exception to the rule Hermaphrodites.

Maybe it will end in a form of total homeostasis.
I did not quite get what you mean. I was referring to "メンヘラ" subculture which is predominantly females, and OTC drugs is strongly associated with them. It's mostly these people doing it, but I've also seen male in mental health board of 5ch using OTC drugs to cope.
Meanwhile the people who would buy MDMA which seems to be one of popular illegal things in Japan, are different people. There are also people who like cannabinoids.
I don't really know what you are talking about, There are male with mental problems and I'm one of them as well but they don't really have their own "culture" like メンヘラ does.

dopemelancholy,

Can you still buy codeine and dihydrocodeine in Japanese pharmacies over the counter? When I lived in Tokyo 20 years ago, the local pharmacy sold some pill that had DHC, ephedrine (I think?), and some powerful antihistamine. They were pretty enjoyable.
I also remember someone telling me you could buy 2C-C, 2C-E, and other psychedelics in headshops. But all I ever found in headshops was absinthe. I wasn't quite sure why I even found headshops there. After all, marijuana didn't seem to be a big thing there.


Is it true that this medicine is available without prescription?

Ingredients and amount:

In 60 mL:

Dihydrocodeine phosphate 30 mg: Acts on the cough center in the medulla oblongata, suppressing the onset of cough.

Guaifenesin 170 mg: Enhances the secretion function of the respiratory mucosa, thins mucus, and promotes its expulsion.

Chlorpheniramine maleate 12 mg: Suppresses allergic cough.

Anhydrous caffeine 62 mg: Supports the functions of other ingredients.


Each bottle is 120ml. Because although tricky, it's not impossible to extract the dihydrocodeine and if refluxed with hydrobromic acid - you get pure dihydromorphine which is ten times more potent.
Yes, ブロン(Bron) is still there. Now you supposedly need to be adult to buy them but they don't really actually seems to check it. There are other similar product but they may contains paracetamols.
Most of these psychedelics seems to be sold online, found few vendor selling cannabinoids on twitter but I'm sure there are more active place for that.
People mostly buy the pills instead of syrup.
 
Ik snapte niet helemaal wat je hebt begrepen. Ik doelde op de subcultuur van "メンヘラ", die voornamelijk uit vrouwen bestaat en waar zelfzorgmedicijnen sterk mee geassocieerd worden. Het zijn vooral deze mensen die het doen, maar ik heb ook mannen in de geestelijke gezondheidszorg van 5CH zelfzorgmedicijnen gebruiken zien om te gaan.
Ondertussen zijn de mensen die MDMA kopen, een van de populairste illegale middelen in Japan, andere mensen. Er zijn ook mensen die van cannabinoïden houden.
Ik weet niet echt waar je het over hebt. Er zijn mannen met geestelijke problemen en ik ben er ook een van, maar zij hebben niet echt hun eigen "cultuur" zoals メンヘラ.
Logisch, de situatie in Japan is zo anders, er zijn hier veel mannen in de subcultuur.
En vrouwen, meestal psychiatrisch/psychisch gestoord. Horizontaal van hen wonen in opvangcentra of in sociale huurwoningen. Dus ik vind het vreemd dat ze zich zo afzonderen. -> deze vrouwen.
Ja, ブロン (Bron) is geen paard. Je moet nu volwassen zijn om ze te kopen, maar ze lijken het niet echt te controleren. Er zijn succesvolle producten, maar die mogelijke paracetamol.
Het lijkt erop dat de meeste van deze psychedelica online worden verkocht. Ik heb een paar verkopers van cannabinoïden op Twitter gevonden, maar ik weet zeker dat er actieve plekken zijn waar ze te koop zijn.
Mensen kopen meestal pillen in plaats van siroop.
kyo (キョウ) tomo (とも)
共 - Samen/ Together. Oefenen met de enige Kanji die ik ken.

Wie had gedacht dat je bij Detox een meisje tegenkomt dat half zo oud is als jij,
zichzelf Japans heeft geleerd?
En haar diploma heeft gehaald. Een meester brein.

Respect 🤙 voor zulke mensen, ik hoop dat ik ooit de kans krijg Japan te zien

[Nederland s, ik schreef Engels, zondag ochtend perikelen ?]
Wow written English but nicely translated to my native tongue, un-asked.
But nice translation, better then most.
 
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For anyone outside the loop confused as to what a Menhera is, it's basically the japanese equivalent to those BPD hipster e-girls but with their own aesthetic/subculture/whatnot.
This video gives an insight as to what the closest thing to menheras we have in the west would be.
Basically, your standard art school rake. The kinda ones that broke your heart by doing some insanely cruel shit you would have never thought possible but they did it anyway and don't even understand they did anything wrong, just with their own japanese flavor and a lot more self-harm and a lot more debt for going to host clubs. And like their western counterpart, they glorify prescription multi-drug abuse.

It's a rabbit hole and a half.

Bemani is the best, I've been looking down people who plays SEGA rhythm games like maimai or Ongeki because they're more made for casuals and underage teenagers. The kind of people who plays beatmania would be STEM university students with no social circles or hobbies to do other than spending many credits on beatmania.
About a year ago I was playing beatmania to kill the time until the sunset as I was too anhedonic from antipsychotics, and could not enjoy things for whole day so I decided to only go back to my room and do things I like after 6PM.

Hey, at least sega games get interesting music. They can keep milking casuals as long as they keep paying artists to make more music for all i care. It's still better than the avalanche of ufo catchers game centers are replacing actual games with.
STEM people playing beatmania is quite true, and that's also my main game. I can relate to playing it while anhedonic, when i've had bouts of depression i just play BMS for hours on end (but even so I keep failing Chuuden at the last measures of bad encryption, and i fucking hate it). Smoking a ton of weed with some dextroamphetamine and then playing IIDX for 4 hours straight is one of my favorite things to do.

Shmups i have to play sober though. I can 1cc Ketsui (1-all, 2-all is too hard) when sober but if i'm high i just lose all my extends in stage 4 because cinderella amber filters me like a dirty casual.

(with "illegally downloaded" roms)

It's always interesting to see the 'normal' japanese perspective on piracy, it's almost as taboo as drugs and as a westerner i've always found it a bit silly. It's the same deference to authority that you talk about for drugs, but applied to corporate interests (and not so much 'fair use' or intellectual property). It's also extremely frustrating because getting proper rips of obscure japanese games/music/art in general is often difficult because of people's disgust towards file sharing, and it only results in media being lost for good, the whole "piracy is theft" argument is hilarious and pure bootlicking.

I would assume it's still very very uncommon to see people file sharing in general over there, right?

Meanwhile the people who would buy MDMA which seems to be one of popular illegal things in Japan, are different people.
Is MDMA that popular in japan? Aside from meth, i know it's one of the top street drugs, but that's still gotta be a hyper-minority. It also seems like it would be impossible to source unless you already know people or are willing to risk getting your life ruined by the authorities.
I would also imagine nobody practices harm reduction/testing in japan because of the low drug use and general ignorance, so i wonder if you guys actually get MDMA or stuff like MDA/2C-B/other research chemicals. I'd be very sketched out.
It's a shame, MDMA is one of my absolute favorite drugs and everyone should probably try it at least once.

I know that people take high doses of Venlafaxine because it can almost feel like MDMA, but having used it therapeutically for depressive episodes, the side effects were so fucking uncomfortable that even normal doses felt like i was on the verge of serotonin syndrome, the body load for me is 10x heavier than even LSD.
Still, do people take heroic doses of SNRIs recreationally in japan too? With all of them going around, there MUST be recorded instances of it.

Lastly, please be careful with that Bron stuff, unless you extract just the opioid (even so, recreational opiates are definitely never a good idea). Chlorpheniramine ages your brain really fucking fast because of how neurotoxic it is. Tons of dangerous drugs that have been banned in the west are still OTC in japan (like Apronal, the one in EVE ibuprofen tablets i believe, that shit is dangerous as FUCK) and i can't understand why.
 
Lastly, please be careful with that Bron stuff, unless you extract just the opioid (even so, recreational opiates are definitely never a good idea). Chlorpheniramine ages your brain really fucking fast because of how neurotoxic it is. Tons of dangerous drugs that have been banned in the west are still OTC in japan (like Apronal, the one in EVE ibuprofen tablets i believe, that shit is dangerous as FUCK) and i can't understand why.
I was going to simply say to dopemelancholy, please be careful with tramadol. It can be fun if you use it occasionally, but addiction to it is a real bitch. Basically the withdrawals are your standard opioid withdrawals plus withdrawing from an SSRI.
 
Smoking a ton of weed with some dextroamphetamine and then playing IIDX for 4 hours straight is one of my favorite things to do.
That'd be good thing to do. I've been saying that playing beatmania can be self-medication for ADHD. I see lot of ADHD people enjoying beatmania as wel
It's always interesting to see the 'normal' japanese perspective on piracy, it's almost as taboo as drugs and as a westerner i've always found it a bit silly. It's the same deference to authority that you talk about for drugs, but applied to corporate interests (and not so much 'fair use' or intellectual property). It's also extremely frustrating because getting proper rips of obscure japanese games/music/art in general is often difficult because of people's disgust towards file sharing, and it only results in media being lost for good, the whole "piracy is theft" argument is hilarious and pure bootlicking.

I would assume it's still very very uncommon to see people file sharing in general over there, right?
Most people talking about piracy I've seen were mostly there for porn. I don't think other things are commonly shared.
I hope that westerner with no aversion for piracy would come to convention like comiket, and scan upload the doujins they've bought along with raw japanese scans. But saying that in japanese circle would be a crime.
Is MDMA that popular in japan? Aside from meth, i know it's one of the top street drugs, but that's still gotta be a hyper-minority. It also seems like it would be impossible to source unless you already know people or are willing to risk getting your life ruined by the authorities.
I would also imagine nobody practices harm reduction/testing in japan because of the low drug use and general ignorance, so i wonder if you guys actually get MDMA or stuff like MDA/2C-B/other research chemicals. I'd be very sketched out.
It's a shame, MDMA is one of my absolute favorite drugs and everyone should probably try it at least once.
MDMA is the drug they used as example in "anti-drug class" I've been through in school.
I have seen twitter account talking about it and that is all I know.
I know that people take high doses of Venlafaxine because it can almost feel like MDMA, but having used it therapeutically for depressive episodes, the side effects were so fucking uncomfortable that even normal doses felt like i was on the verge of serotonin syndrome, the body load for me is 10x heavier than even LSD.
Still, do people take heroic doses of SNRIs recreationally in japan too? With all of them going around, there MUST be recorded instances of it.
I'm sure one of them did, Usually they post the pills online for attention. I see a lot of stupid mix of OTC pills. People don't even know the name of substance they're taking.
I cannot stand looking at how they're doing DXM in street.
Lastly, please be careful with that Bron stuff, unless you extract just the opioid (even so, recreational opiates are definitely never a good idea). Chlorpheniramine ages your brain really fucking fast because of how neurotoxic it is. Tons of dangerous drugs that have been banned in the west are still OTC in japan (like Apronal, the one in EVE ibuprofen tablets i believe, that shit is dangerous as FUCK) and i can't understand why.
I was going to simply say to dopemelancholy, please be careful with tramadol. It can be fun if you use it occasionally, but addiction to it is a real bitch. Basically the withdrawals are your standard opioid withdrawals plus withdrawing from an SSRI.
Recently I have been taking retarded amount of it, I used a potentially offensive word because it is really stupid amount there.
I will try to taper them off and eventually quit for at least a month or two. Then go back with better habit. I was trying to cycle between pregabalin to avoid tolerance but it eventually just didn't work for tramadol.
 
Recently I have been taking retarded amount of it, I used a potentially offensive word because it is really stupid amount there.
I will try to taper them off and eventually quit for at least a month or two. Then go back with better habit. I was trying to cycle between pregabalin to avoid tolerance but it eventually just didn't work for tramadol.
Having a tramadol habit is a bit like having a heroin habit, only less fun. I am glad you are planning to taper off of it. When I was addicted to tramadol I began to get very weird effects after about 6 months of daily use. Derealization and depersonalization, things like that. So it is good to quit even for a couple months.
 
Having a tramadol habit is a bit like having a heroin habit, only less fun. I am glad you are planning to taper off of it. When I was addicted to tramadol I began to get very weird effects after about 6 months of daily use. Derealization and depersonalization, things like that. So it is good to quit even for a couple months.
I'd stick to kratom if I had access to them because I wouldn't expect opioid to be good drug to use long term without destroying my life.
but it's not possible to even dream about it because legalization is not likely to happen for at least two generations.
Because they educate kids how dangerous any illegal substances are, social shaming will never stop until they decide to change the way of drug education.
I people will freak out even with allowing very limited medical only use, there was a controversy with new medication that involves THC in process of making(they don't even have thc in actual thing).

I wish I had access to safer substances, weed kratom psychedelics. I've always had ADD symptoms and it's hard to even get diagnosis before waiting month to get "concerta pass" so I can get concerta.
I gave up on it because it felt stupid how strict it is, They treat concerta like any other meds despite being a stimulant that'd be considered as very dangerous drug in their standards. Just how ignorant general population are.
Yes I want that evil drug that would destroy my life and only wicked people would use, Amphetamine, to treat my ADD.
 
I wish I had access to safer substances, weed kratom psychedelics. I've always had ADD symptoms and it's hard to even get diagnosis before waiting month to get "concerta pass" so I can get concerta.
I gave up on it because it felt stupid how strict it is, They treat concerta like any other meds despite being a stimulant that'd be considered as very dangerous drug in their standards. Just how ignorant general population are.
Yes I want that evil drug that would destroy my life and only wicked people would use, Amphetamine, to treat my ADD.
I wouldn't say kratom is 100% safe but it is certainly a lot safer than tramadol.

Also I forgot how different Japanese Drs are compared to American docs. In Japan it's still pretty uncommon for a doctor to write any prescription, right? Compared to here, where you can't really seem to avoid it. For example I ended up on Adderall without that even being the reason I was going to the Dr (I do have ADD though).
 
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