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Global Events The Middle East - Palestine, Israel, and Iran

Shambles said:
So the US bombs some empty buildings and now we are truly looking at WW3 with both Russia and Pakistan saying they will back Iran with the very nuclear weapons they never had nor wanted in the first place.

Jesus fuck Israel - and its pussywhipped lackey America, and soon to be lapdog Britain - thanks for threatening all of our futures for the sake of some political donations.

The corruption that has poisoned the political classes for generations has finally metastasised and we could easily all be going down with the sinking ship that is “The West”.

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it does sound like there's a fresh ceasefire between Iran and Israel

taking bets on how long before Israel breaks it
 
Voxide said:
I’m loading up on cash secured call options as soon as the market opens tomorrow lol. Wartime is historically a nice little green pop for the stock market and I like money
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I know nobody cares and everyone here hates me except electrum and Droppersneck if he’s still alive but I just want to say this aged absolutely beautifully for the day. Normally I’d never bother with short dated calls since it’s basically gambling but
 
Israel is killing Iranian scientists with car bombs and shit.

I feel like those actions are terroristic in nature, and not an actual act of military warfare.

I feel like it's clear that Israel is the aggressor here. It's a shame the US government is lending support to them and playing into this conflict, but, that's how they make money, so that's how it goes.
 
Israel is absolutely an aggressive terrorist state, which is rather "funny" because they call everyone else terrorists when those people stand up for themselves to fend off Israel's attacks

I wonder who they got that playbook from

United States does the exact same thing

the way that the media talks about Israel aggression is like its a force of nature that nobody can control, its completely insane

as if a country doesn't have the right to defend itself from being terrorized
 
someguyontheinternet said:
Israel is absolutely an aggressive terrorist state, which is rather "funny" because they call everyone else terrorists when those people stand up for themselves to fend off Israel's attacks

I wonder who they got that playbook from

United States does the exact same thing
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Think you might have this flipped. Where do you think the USA gets their playbook from?
 
www.bbc.com

Trump lashes out at Israel and Iran as he accuses both of violating ceasefire - live updates

Trump uses an expletive as he says both countries have fought each other for so long they don't know what they're doing.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

You know - I don't love the guy - but I give him credit for sat least calling out Israel for continued beligerance.

Still - he shouldn't have sent those bombers and that doesn't remove my disdain for some (or all) of his choices thus far.

Giving credit where credit is due nonetheless.
 
tryptakid said:
www.bbc.com

Trump lashes out at Israel and Iran as he accuses both of violating ceasefire - live updates

Trump uses an expletive as he says both countries have fought each other for so long they don't know what they're doing.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

You know - I don't love the guy - but I give him credit for sat least calling out Israel for continued beligerance.

Still - he shouldn't have sent those bombers and that doesn't remove my disdain for some (or all) of his choices thus far.

Giving credit where credit is due nonetheless.
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Given recent history though (him pretending like he didn't know we were about to strike irans nuclear facilities) , I've been trying to work out if this was just another staged theatrical performance.
 
tryptakid said:
www.bbc.com

Trump lashes out at Israel and Iran as he accuses both of violating ceasefire - live updates

Trump uses an expletive as he says both countries have fought each other for so long they don't know what they're doing.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

You know - I don't love the guy - but I give him credit for sat least calling out Israel for continued beligerance.

Still - he shouldn't have sent those bombers and that doesn't remove my disdain for some (or all) of his choices thus far.

Giving credit where credit is due nonetheless.
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is it reasonable to give someone credit for cleaning up a mess they created?
 
mal3volent said:
Given recent history though (him pretending like he didn't know we were about to strike irans nuclear facilities) , I've been trying to work out if this was just another staged theatrical performance.
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Part of me honestly wonders if he gave Iran the heads up that US bombers were coming so they could clear out their nuclear materials in advance.

He retains favor with Israel for the bombing run
Iran owes him a favor for the heads up
He gets to distract everyone from his abysmal public opinion and ongoing ICE bullshit.

He surrounds himself with Dana White/Linda MacMahon types who are well versed in the art of putting on a show while reaping in the raitings and revenue. During this whole episode his family has also started a mobile phone venture while continuing with the pump and dump crypto bullshit that allows him to reap tons of off-the-books favor peddling from foreign nationals.

This is all very akin to the way Putin has long governed - playing both sides of every conflict, making peculiar choices and then lying about what he has done, only to then act as though he wasn't lying all of the same. Everyone spends so much time chasing them around for answers that they have no way of stopping the next grift as it takes place.

What was the thing people were maddest at Trump about 2 weeks ago? A month ago?

What happened to his feuds with Elon?

Where are we with the invasions of Greenland and Canada?

How come egg prices are no longer being discussed?

Are the marines still in LA?

Are we going after illegal immigrants that work at restaurants and farms, or are we not?

This is the reasons I cannot get behind anything this guy does - he is at the same time completely insincere, totally honest, and absolutely full of shit. That's not what I want out of government. I want honesty, integrity, and an understanding of how ones actions are supposed to benefit the average american. Instead, we get a reality television series that benefits the wealthy while we all hunker inside sweating to death because Big Tech won't stop to think about whether AI slop and crypto might be bad for the environment.
 
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tryptakid said:
Part of me honestly wonders if he gave Iran the heads up that US bombers were coming so they could clear out their nuclear materials in advance.
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I suspect those facilities were already empty, or there weren't facilities there to begin with. there's a lot of posturing and hot air, none of this had to happen in the first place sadly. and its been very clear that both the US and Israeli governments lie constantly, many US citizens always complain about how the government lies to them but somehow we can believe them now? even though they do the exact same things as all previous admins?

these questions aren't directed at you but are rhetorical, it would be nice if people finally critically analyzed what they're told by the government and media but it just seems like people believe whatever side they voted for

Israel literally can't do anything if they don't have US permission because where else will they get the money and weapons to do it
 
someguyontheinternet said:
I suspect those facilities were already empty, or there weren't facilities there to begin with. there's a lot of posturing and hot air, none of this had to happen in the first place sadly. and its been very clear that both the US and Israeli governments lie constantly, many US citizens always complain about how the government lies to them but somehow we can believe them now? even though they do the exact same things as all previous admins?

these questions aren't directed at you but are rhetorical, it would be nice if people finally critically analyzed what they're told by the government and media but it just seems like people believe whatever side they voted for

Israel literally can't do anything if they don't have US permission because where else will they get the money and weapons to do it
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I saw that there seemed to be unusual activity via satellite imagery a few days before the strike - with the suggestion being that perhaps iranian authorities were clearing out whatever had been there in preparation for the bombings that were to occur.

What all of this is aimed at doing is anyone's guess. Mostly it just seems to create fear, panic, and unease which provides Trump/Bibi with the illusion of control. Keeps the media focused on these blatant acts while sketchy things continue on unabated in the background.

The guy needs to go.
 
I don't think anyone has pointed this out but Iran appears to have a wider variarty of air-defence systems than any other nation on the planet from US kit obtained before the Islamic revolution to various Soviet era systems, a staggering array of 'home-grown' systems then some more modern Russian and Chinese stuff.

It all performed TERRIBY. I mean, next to useless.

I suspect I know why. Iran actually allowed Iranian viewers to watch it's mighty 'Air Defence Command' in action and two commentators noted that each screen related to a single battery. There was NO intigration whatsoever. So with the decapitation strakes, nobody to give clear orders.

I figure that the Israeli airforce used some variation of Combat Tree which essentially means that no Iranian aircraft could use it's FoF indicator so those guys in the 'Air Defence Command' had no idea WHAT they might be launching at and it seems like for the first day at least, they simply didn't even try to use their SAMs to bring down Israeli or US aircraft.

So yeah, Israel certainly had that worked out and it's one of this plans where I HOPE it works, but I don't think it will.

Regime change relies on their being someone to take power. Well Iran butchered the opposition coelition back in 2023 so only a few minor Iranian politicians who escaped Iran could form a government. Most Iranians don't know any of them. So what else? A military dictatorship? Because I find it hard to believe that such a dictatorship would ever be friendly to Israel or the US.

But most importanly - I really doubt that Iran can no longer test a nuclear weapon. They might sign every surrender document under the sun just to stop the attacks, but if their brakout time can be measured in months, what happens if in say October they perform a test? What then?
 
Voxide said:
I know nobody cares and everyone here hates me except electrum
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I don't think that everyones hates you, you aren't that important, you know. I mean:
Voxide said:
I’m loading up on cash secured call options as soon as the market opens tomorrow lol. Wartime is historically a nice little green pop for the stock market and I like money
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I also like money, but I find your position to be extremely disgusting and totally vultur-ish as a behaviour, but I am very far from hating you, why should I?
I do firmly believe in freedom and everybody has their own ideas and the right to deffend them.
I have had different friendly discussions with people like Electrum, Mr Krinkle and others, cause their political points of views don't match mine at all, but I do honestly like them and I enjoy many (most) of their posts

Here in Bluelight when we talk about tolerance we usually mean habituation to a drug, but it also means certain human condition where you don't hate other people because they don't share your religion, race, ideas or tastes .. tolerance is fantastic, mate
 
Señor Moreno said:
I don't think that everyones hates you, you aren't that important, you know. I mean:
I also like money, but I find your position to be extremely disgusting and totally vultur-ish as a behaviour, but I am very far from hating you, why should I?
I do firmly believe in freedom and everybody has their own ideas and the right to deffend them.
I have had different friendly discussions with people like Electrum, Mr Krinkle and others, cause their political points of views don't match mine at all, but I do honestly like them and I enjoy many (most) of their posts

Here in Bluelight when we talk about tolerance we usually mean habituation to a drug, but it also means certain human condition where you don't hate other people because they don't share your religion, race, ideas or tastes .. tolerance is fantastic, mate
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😎🤝





That wasn’t “blurted” out it lol it was intentioned
 
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