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Global Events The Middle East - Palestine, Israel, and Iran

Trump bombed Iran lol. Well their nuclear sites or something with some special bomb. Cant imagine they’re not gonna want to retaliate


I’m loading up on cash secured call options as soon as the market opens tomorrow lol. Wartime is historically a nice little green pop for the stock market and I like money

@Electrum1 Yep I was just about to say; I read about this being historic in some way real quick this morning but you summed up the technicals a lot better than me lol
 
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It's worth reading about just how shallow and how narrow the straits around the Horn of Africa are.

The Houthis are unlikely to have the capacity to mine even a 9km wide area used by shipping but there are something like 1100 Aframax tankers (smaller tankers designed to deal with the narrow, shallow shipping lanes) with dozens being scrapped every year. I think the key detail is that their decks are about 80 feet above sea level while bridge and navigation are about 120 feet tall. So when a shipping lane has points only 50 feet deep...

Do we see the potential issue here? After all, if a rogue Aframax ends up in one of those shipping lanes, sinking it would be counterproductive.

I certainly hope it doesn't come to anything but I cannot help thinking that the Houthis do not appear to be scared of piracy. They have also had a long time to consider ways of preventing shipping. So far they have been selective and tend to target ships flying the flags of certain nations. But if they simply want to stop ALL traffic, is this a practical methodology? I don't know.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if blue light was some kind of weird milk ultra spinoff where users were reported to indicate with high truth value various agendas hidden to other more ordinary thinkers.
 
helpingout said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if blue light was some kind of weird milk ultra spinoff where users were reported to indicate with high truth value various agendas hidden to other more ordinary thinkers.
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I can tell you with utmost certainty that if it is, even the moderators are unaware of it.

We're all pieces on a chessboard so who the fuck knows, but there are no gods and no masters here. Our leadership isn't even based in the US.
 
helpingout said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if blue light was some kind of weird milk ultra spinoff where users were reported to indicate with high truth value various agendas hidden to other more ordinary thinkers
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Time for some sleep, electrolytes, and maybe an Oxazepam, my man

tryptakid said:
Our leadership isn't even based in the US.
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Yeah isn’t it based in Russia or something? I remember when it had .ru in the site name
 
Voxide said:
Time for some sleep, electrolytes, and maybe an Oxazepam, my man


Yeah isn’t it based in Russia or something? I remember when it had .ru in the site name
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Australia. The ru link was long ago when a drug forum wasn't able to get us hosting but Russia was able to host it. A different time when our internet was younger and more connected, less fire-walled, less capitalized, and more restricted. It's been strange to see how the internet has grown over the 30 years I've been a user.
 
There is no way that the internet is less capitalized now, or less restricted, or less connected. We can find a huge amount of posts about the recent Iran bombing on profitable websites compared to posts about 9/11 at the time, or wikileaks releases in 2010/11. Facebook and Google stock prices didn't go up so much for no reason
 
Electrum1 said:
There is no way that the internet is less capitalized now, or less restricted, or less connected. We can find a huge amount of posts about the recent Iran bombing on profitable websites compared to posts about 9/11 at the time, or wikileaks releases in 2010/11. Facebook and Google stock prices didn't go up so much for no reason
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less more, more or less. less is more but is more less?

the internet was less capitalized then than it is now, it was also more restricted in who could get hosted at least in part due to less commercial hosts: see being less capitalized

we could say it is less connected now because most traffic seems to flow through several high degree hubs such as FAANG rather than individuals hosting their own websites which is how the internet started

most people don't know internet history super well so I don't blame anyone for not being aware of how things developed
 
Electrum1 said:
There is no way that the internet is less capitalized now, or less restricted, or less connected. We can find a huge amount of posts about the recent Iran bombing on profitable websites compared to posts about 9/11 at the time, or wikileaks releases in 2010/11. Facebook and Google stock prices didn't go up so much for no reason
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Internet now is definitely more capitalized than it ever has been. It's more eloquently restricted now... there are illusions of openness that make it feel much fuller than before. Back in the day it was all or nothing. But there are many walled gardens that have sprung up to create isolated spaces online that feel alive and full but are terribly empty. Hypernormalization.
 
It's interesting that the media has suggessted that the Houthis could mine the strait (which needs specialist ships or specialist aircraft) or to use the fast-attack boats that are quite easy targets.

Yet not one commentator seems to have noted that Aframix tankers bound for the scrap-yard would be another option, especially since so many pass through the shipping channels on their way to being scrapped. So with no warning, a ship manned by Houthis could just scuttle the vessels in those shipping lanes.

It's strange to always be a day ahead of the media.

I said only the US had the appropriate bunker busters but admit, I had thought they would have supplied them to Israel. But the result is the same - the US has attacked Iran and within all of the nations in the region there will be a backlash. I'm not saying it's right, only that it seems likely to happen.
 
www.bbc.com

Trump lashes out at Israel and Iran as he accuses both of violating ceasefire - live updates

Trump uses an expletive as he says both countries have fought each other for so long they don't know what they're doing.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

  • Explosions are heard in Doha after a "credible threat" of an Iranian missile attack on a US-run airbase in Qatar
  • Qatar has temporarily closed its airspace and US and UK citizens have been advised to shelter in place
  • Iran is weighing a response to Saturday's US strikes on its nuclear facilities, which Donald Trump says caused "monumental damage"
  • Trump will attend a National Security Council meeting shortly, after the White House earlier said he was "simply raising a question" in floating the idea of regime change in Iran
  • It comes as Israel says it is targeting Tehran with "unprecedented force", including attacks on "access routes" to the Fordo nuclear site and Evin prison
  • Meanwhile the first evacuation flight for British nationals has left Israel, Foreign Secretary David Lammy says
 
Hopefully I will be sleeping through the war. If the US gets bombed I hope it is in my area, I do not want to live in a collapse of our society. I keep telling my fellow Americans that we have a lot of useful land that is desirable to the East. In the East and Europe everyone is packed in. I can see China and Russia splitting America 50/50 after our power is knocked out and everyone starves in a civil war. Our best Delta Force operators have said the US military cannot take on China or Russia at the moment. I also think that sleeper cells exist in the US, in fact I know they exist. I also think the current government would sell the US back to the Rothschild empire and skirt off somewhere else.

In 2024, I went to WNC 6 days after a manufactured hurricane & flood gates were opened. I helped search for bodies and covered 7 major counties and Ashville. In a period of 5 days there, I saw 1 FEMA vehicle... ONE !! I saw so much destruction and death. I learned an important lesson there, a lesson to share with others. If the US gets attacked on home soil, no one is coming to save anyone. That is the lesson and that is reality.
 
It's now openly being stated that regime change in Iran is the goal. But no mention of who else could take power. The opposition coallition were disappeared in 2023 so it ramains to be seen who is left. Yes, there are various oppoisition leaders residing outside Iran but the vast majority of Iranians wouldn't even know who they are.

So it's going to end up with which way the Iranian armed forces jump. Would a military dictatorship be an improvement?

Thus I keep saying that sooner or later, if the US really does want to ensure that Iran's capacity to build nuclear weapons is put to an end, it will need boots on the ground.

The way Israel has essentially forced the US to take it's side is a good example for other world leaders on how to manipulate the current US president. Do something awful and claim the US was with them 100% of the way.
 

Qatar condemns Iranian attack on air base and says it reserves right to respond​

From CNN's Mohammed Tawfeeq
Qatar has condemned Iran for attacking the US’ Al Udeid Air Base, calling it “a flagrant violation of Qatar’s sovereignty and airspace.”

“We affirm that the state of Qatar reserves the right to respond directly, proportionate to the nature and scale of this blatant aggression and in accordance with international law,” Majed Al-Ansari, a spokesperson for the Qatari Foreign Ministry, said in a statement Monday.
“We are assured that Qatari air defenses thwarted the attack and successfully intercepted the Iranian missiles. A statement clarifying the circumstances of the attack will be issued later by the Ministry of Defense,” Al-Ansari said.
 
Yes, I can't see any de escalation and this can end very badly.
But Iran is not the one to blame here.
They didn't promove a coup in the 50s like US and UK did with Mossadeq
Yes, they kidnapped the US embassy but didn't kill people.
They didn't leave the negociation table in 2015
Yes, they did support Hezbollah and Hamas but just like the West supported kurdish or anti-Assad and Gaddafi groups in Syria or Lybia
They didn't kill an US antiterrorist general in a third country like Trump did with Soleimani in Irak.
They didn't sistematically kill jew nuclear scientifics, like Israel does with persian ones.
They weren't cynical enough to get hysterical cause "my enemy may be able to build an atomic weapon!!" when you have thousands and you've used them on humans. Twice.
They never bombeb US or Israel nuclear facilities.

It's ugly enough to be the bully but it's even worse to pretend that you are the victim.
 
Señor Moreno said:
Yes, I can't see any de escalation and this can end very badly.
But Iran is not the one to blame here.
They didn't promove a coup in the 50s like US and UK did with Mossadeq
Yes, they kidnapped the US embassy but didn't kill people.
They didn't leave the negociation table in 2015
Yes, they did support Hezbollah and Hamas but just like the West supported kurdish or anti-Assad and Gaddafi groups in Syria or Lybia
They didn't kill an US antiterrorist general in a third country like Trump did with Soleimani in Irak.
They didn't sistematically kill jew nuclear scientifics, like Israel does with persian ones.
They weren't cynical enough to get hysterical cause "my enemy may be able to build an atomic weapon!!" when you have thousands and you've used them on humans. Twice.
They never bombeb US or Israel nuclear facilities.

It's ugly enough to be the bully but it's even worse to pretend that you are the victim.
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I do think its odd how Americans seem to hate Iran for no reason, what has Iran done to impact Americans? do they bomb our cities? overthrow our government?


and then Americans are absolutely flabbergasted when Iranians say damn America

why would they hate America? it must be our burgers and freedoms right?

definitely not the fact that we continuously bomb their children and topple their governments
 
So the US bombs some empty buildings and now we are truly looking at WW3 with both Russia and Pakistan saying they will back Iran with the very nuclear weapons they never had nor wanted in the first place.

Jesus fuck Israel - and its pussywhipped lackey America, and soon to be lapdog Britain - thanks for threatening all of our futures for the sake of some political donations.

The corruption that has poisoned the political classes for generations has finally metastasised and we could easily all be going down with the sinking ship that is “The West”.

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