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what drugs do you wish were never created?

Probably nicotine/tobacco. Terribly addicting with too many side effects and barely any positives (at least it's a "good" poison). The world would probably be very different though, because it had an massive impact during the colonization era.
 
I was talking about that p2p dope from back in the day. Or JP5.. shit.. glass.. not isopropylbenzylamine aka Mexican Super Duper fuckary labs where chemists know how to alter a substance and put out something even more dangerous than meth. I've been a victim of this fucking shit. Trust me bro I've done meth for 10 years on and off and when I relapsed last year and was getting this shit before I was unaware of it... I was experiencing some fucked up side effects. Slamming would just make me feel like I was about to get a heart attack. It flushed my face and my ear drums felt like they were about to burst. Regular meth flushes the face too depending on dose but i mean this shit left my face with red patches for several hours and I didn't feel any euphoria.. just felt toxic and felt like my bones were deteriorating. Within 1 fucking year of using the meth that's out now that's coming from Mexico.. I have done testing to see how bad my arthritis has gotten and come to find out they tell me I have osteoporosis and chance of my bones breaking is pretty high. You tell me how the fuck a 32 year old who eats clean, lifts 5 times a day, can hold a job, sleeps 8 hours a day and does it his best to take all the supps provided to not get the unwanted side effects.. yet still, after a year of the meth use that Mexico is providing that he develops osteoporosis!? That's unheard of bro. This shit's toxic. You can defend Mexicans all you want.. who knows maybe those fucking jumping poles are only providing the good shit to their people.. but i live in Socal bro and i sure as fuck ain't getting what you would call "good dope" and I've gone through plenty of trusted sources.. shit's fucking whack
Mf yes iving meth back in the day was amazing good fucking cough and fuck yeah let's fucking go


This shit now I started back iving after a bout 5 years clean
About one fuxking month ago
This shit is so fucking bad no cough no feel that I want Really
This shit is fucking me mental so goddamn bad and I will get a shot off and it burns so back but not a fucking miss like wtf and red patches pop up all over My ares I can get a banger of a shot off and I literally felt all day like I was done like I so complicated stupid fiied like completely normal blood pressure bit heart /chest had pinching feelings
I'm so ready for this coming week flying away for mental and rehab treatment 🙌 😩
 
I agree. Alcohol is the devil. Some of it is that’s it’s ubiquitous. I can divorce myself from dope, speed, research chemicals, but there’s ethanol on every street corner. It’s slow motion self-destruction for alcoholics.
 
I agree. Alcohol is the devil. Some of it is that’s it’s ubiquitous. I can divorce myself from dope, speed, research chemicals, but there’s ethanol on every street corner. It’s slow motion self-destruction for alcoholics.
I agree with this, it causes more harm to society than any other substance and yet is available everywhere, while something like cannabis, which causes very little harm to society is demonized and kept illegal.

I also think meth is putrid and have seen it destroy so many lives, currently my wife is struggling with it and when she comes down from a binge she is a completely different person, it takes all of the things I love about her away and just leaves her an angry depressed and just a generally unpleasant person to be around.

In the 13 years since I was first introduced to it I can count on one hand the amount of people that are able to control their use of it.

I wish it would disappear and be replaced with cocaine.
 
In the 13 years since I was first introduced to it I can count on one hand the amount of people that are able to control their use of it.
Can I ask, does this include people who vaporize it specifically? I've personally noticed that people who only eat/insufflate less than 30mg in a 36 hour period seem to respond well, but those who consume more, redose, or vaporize seem to get fucked up bad from it.
 
Can I ask, does this include people who vaporize it specifically? I've personally noticed that people who only eat/insufflate less than 30mg in a 36 hour period seem to respond well, but those who consume more, redose, or vaporize seem to get fucked up bad from it.
Yes I am talking about people who use the pipe or the needle specifically.
I have honestly never met anyone that uses it any other way as a general rule, of coarse I can only comment on my own observations.
I know people who use dexies or the other adhd meds that seem to be so liberally prescribed with more control, but not meth.

Edit...as I type this I can hear my wife flicking her lighter as she vapes her latest bag of crystal and I am thinking, maybe I should try it the way you describe.

Whenever I vape it I end up feeling like killing myself for a week.
If I was to snort a small bump I would need to crush it up real well I imagine?
 
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Yes I am talking about people who use the pipe or the needle specifically.
I have honestly never met anyone that uses it any other way as a general rule, of coarse I can only comment on my own observations.
I know people who use dexies or the other adhd meds that seem to be so liberally prescribed with more control, but not meth.

Edit...as I type this I can hear my wife flicking her lighter as she vapes her latest bag of crystal and I am thinking, maybe I should try it the way you describe.

Whenever I vape it I end up feeling like killing myself for a week.
If I was to snort a small bump I would need to crush it up real well I imagine?
Weigh out (or volumetrically liquid dose) 20-30mg and eat it if you have tolerance, if you don't have tolerance start at 10mg.
 
I doubt many people will agree with me... but DXM? Ga-Ross. Even when using it for medicinal uses in small doses, it gives me an overall feeling of grossness. I wish it didn't exist because I've come across SO many pills that were cut with it.

Where I'm from, it's unheard of to use it for recreational purposes... but it seems to be popular in some other places. I took it once (intentionally) and never again. I can't even imagine being at a party on that stuff feeling like hot, puddle of shit.
To be hon-oust i miss it, and that s purely for that un-necessary cough.
I have about once a 2 year s, 30 mg DXM and gone.

But they had to forbid medical use, scared Dutch kid s like US kids,
would use it as drug and go outta their mind so that never happened.
Just lost a great cough reliever, Codeine being gone before it.

Wonder what s left, Noscapine.

maybe they shouldn t have altered Cannabis to produce only THC.
And just improve the plant as is without changing.
The THC vs other Cannabinoid s ratio, what they did over here.
And led to couch-lock but also messing with school, job s and
response-ability s. IN the first few year s Marrocan hasjish was
all i smoked.

Way less impact on all day live, then when we switched to Skunk.
 
There can only be really two, tobacco and alcohol. I know they are socially acceptable but they kill more people everyday than any other drugs. Health services across the world would not be at stress levels because of the disease they cause
 
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