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RCs NPS in NL/ 21_01_2025 [blanket ban vs wise thinking]

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The HOT topic NL & NPS. A synopsis will follow.
Tomorrow !

Edit: my conlusion, the one for the ban use manipulation , lies and
claim thing that are not suported by fact.

Public heath is not the aim,
what the experts advised abandoned.

It s comes down to pressure from surrounding country s.
Politic s so forget a solution, but a long and frustrating bla bla bla.
No happy ending. While these country s have the same,
most worse drug problems. some even no HR programs.

Fueled by false arguments. My Hope the law gets rejected.
And drugs regulated, as this will Law will be at cost of human health/ lives.
And will only benefit organised crime.

https://www.eerstekamer.nl/debat_ge...509d0ce-3902-4f6c-b8a4-2fed9d439e09&sprkguid=

Tomorrow never comes; as this Debat about 1 topic takes em 4 and 1/ 2 hour.
But gives a nice inside view of our political system.
And i can say for sure these folks. Take stuff way more serious !
They are the represents of party s chosen for the 1-st Chamber.
There is a .... break in the middle.

Not the Muppet Show like the more known,
and seemingly more important 2-nd Chamber.
Or even our Gouvernement/ Prime minister
Laws before they become LAW. Must go through all protocol s.

The 1-st Chamber one of em, so far at 1/ 3 the recording,
the governmental getting a good bud slap:
Beat and broke down as their Law proposal,
besides neglecting expert advise. And being unworkable for Judges.
Seems to be mostly imposed by other country s.
Is as "There is a hole in your Bucket ... " ,
because approval will mean the cartels will benefit from it,
and public health will be at stake.

Interesting and scientifically based with a human face.
Till 1:31. Tbc.

part 2. Pretty interesting this is as close as i seen real vs Kakalawaka :poop:. Politics.
Not like the gouvernement or 2-nd Chamber/ Prime Minister ,
this is discussion like we learned at school mixed with politic s mumbo, partys are clashing.

But for sure truth is obvious and Bullshit too.
And that it in whay i must conclude is.
What the actual new NPS Law proposal is. A Flaw.

The opposed party s when referring to Flakka,
Miauw Miauw [actually 4-MMC] but now used for 3-MMC.
Are used to justify illegalisation.
While all 3 drugs already are scheduled 1/ so illegal.
So bullshit. As these have not been legal for long time !
Manipilation tactic used all the time its disturbing.

Real reason; pressure from surounding country s.
Though the aim is: creating a system where people can use drugs.
Drugs of Pharmaceutical quality, produced legal.

And dangerous substances like 4-MMC, which was less dangerous,
then Coke, according to UK statistics during the time people took 4-MMC.
And Coke use Declined, so did the Coke casualties decline.
While 4-MMC din t seem to raise the amount of OD s,
as much as when people had no choice. Between the two.


And comparing with, what was happening in UK, 'Black Mamba' phase.
Which Due to their blanket ban is not relevant. But didn t work to well !
So not even a argument, as it att was not like that in NL. att or now.
Manipulating the opinion, with tactic s learned at mid-school.

And the comparison with US, crazy ass free market politics.
The 'buy Zaza at the gas station' situation.
After bringing back up the UK Synthetic Cannabis disaster.
Something that never happened over here.
Even selling Alcohol in gas station s is illegal.

Simply put. Scaremongering.
As it has no relevance to Dutch Society.

That is the opposition, very transparant lase reasoning.
I see most people when they are sincere, at least i think.

The Alcohol GAP, world s hardest drug killer nr 1,
was very interesting brought on the table.
Why is it left outta the equation, where the opposition stayed silent.

A long silence, which said enough.
Not saying something is not the same as not answering.
28_01-2025 should be the outcome, so lets see, good over evil ?

Right or wrong. Nice to see that between ground level and top.
The 1-st Chamber is actually as close to Politic s as we learned on school.

edit: at hour 2:40, the mention on N2O being made illegal,
and after a decline in use. No proof, reality: :poop:
Atm R_dam is covered with empty 5/ 10 /20 Liter tanks of flavoured N2O.
After illegalizing. Manipulation again with false info.

Hour 2:47, it suddenly shifts we are no longer a Chinese gateway.
But become a producer instead,
Conflicting argument within the opposed party s.

2:52 Mr Nicolai of the Animal Party, cool and wise man.
All his contributions till this point solid, unlike the proponent s.
The saying "wiping the floor with their no- sense arguments',
came to mind but the sincerety vs the obvious
'The i am full of shit talk' of the opponentt,
which was written all over his face. Estetic !

Hour 2:53 decline of 3-MMC use after illegalizing.
Lie, the youth atm is loving it big time.
So still available cheap and in a sec.

If it gets through, Juli the 1-st it implemented.

Reason according to the ass talking,
they are embedded in society.
The fact they are dangerous hard-drugs of lesser significance.

:ROFLMAO: 3:55 Us official visit NPS lab in the Netherlands and is shocked.
Substances forbidden in the US seeing legally produced.
And exported to the US, oh what a shame. WTF, US has no blanket ban.
What s 'gebeurd' its absurd. US is home off the RC industry.

Though they have their Chinese friend s too. We produce em self.
I sure hope at least that s through. The rest not, by a long shot.
Missed the %, but there is a 2-fold increase in labs busts.
That were producing both RC and illegal drugs, actual disturbing fact.

2:43 is brought to the table the Chinese/ India production.
And swift to national. and explanation asked. Before that it was claimed.
RC are totally illegal in US, well US what you all say:
through or false

Then it gets bizar as it about different standards people at festival s.
Who get caught lose there drugs and may continue and party.
While the same situation but then at your house leading to eviction.

True story where i reside 1 Cannabis plant will get you evicted for sure.
But getting caught three times with 1/2 kg Amphetamine in house not.
Local news, always advise to read if you feel live is a joke.

Interesting, but due to the opponent s boring.
I am finished and pay my respect to the party s,
that seriously seem to have used their brain s on this topic.

And going on, i hooking of but it was very insightful.


Made me investigate our Political pyramid too.
School info where are thou ?

Till after the 28-01-2025, the conclusion of the debate.
 
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Yeah despite lie, defeated.

Fantasy accepted as reality supporting,

denying advise and a pretty sharp opposition .

BLANKET BAN HAS BEGAN, probably within a few months.
Anyone still doubting me, fuck my land, get it banned !

Neuk Nederland

and 54 views

edit: OK 117 vieuw s. Made my last order, 5 x 10 mg 2C-E too.
The story s and a few experience s, convinced me.
Stuff got to last till total legalisation, which could take ... .
Btw legal :weedleaf:would be about time to, or NL wants to be last ?
 
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Good new s whatever effect it will have on the half-cut Blanket ban.
That would set in end Juni. :cheerz:

Our Gouvernement after taking years to form one, the biggest party.
Extreme right, no one liked as its run by a retarded 1/2 Indo Racist.
Looked like Uk s Boris and the US s Trump. Big blond hairdos/ weirdos.

Mostly Law s don t get implied in such a case go in the fridge.
Till a new gouvernement, better is formed. Which can take years.
Reelection s, dumb-asses Politic s and the people wanna be involved in it.

Anarchy in the Land under the See. Yeah, i am happy. Not for the RCs.
For the country, the refugees and all others victimised by right wing Politician s.
 
LL seemed to do pretty well over there in Poland(?) for production. as popular as 4-3-2-mmc are through parts of europe and relatively minor synthesis, i doubt it simply ceases to be available entirely from a blanket ban. when the UK did it definitely seemed to be a temporary setback but their market looks fine, now.
 
Like i wrote seeing is believing, fact remain s.
That they even got the law through was a offence.

Now it seems a partial blanket ban, call me back after,
they finally formed something working again.
Gouvernement fell.
Seems i didn t put the mixed result s here.

Strange where else. They, took certain groups its
easy to find info. However if it will come to act.
It are criminal s who benefit.

Market fine, everybody is looking for 4-MMC.
While for the youth here criminal s produce 3-MMC.
That also is illegal a while, but they love it ?
 
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LL seemed to do pretty well over there in Poland(?) for production. as popular as 4-3-2-mmc are through parts of europe and relatively minor synthesis, i doubt it simply ceases to be available entirely from a blanket ban. when the UK did it definitely seemed to be a temporary setback but their market looks fine, now.
Since tomorrow no blanket after all, well a selective one.
The Blanket Ban cover s 3 groups:

_Phenethylamines including Cathinones
_Synthoid s
_Fentanyl- analoques, but that is to protect the rest of the world

Ehm, didn t they forget the Nitazenes ? Would not surprise me, dumb asses.
But aprreciate that Psychedelics, Benzodiazepinen, Tryptaminen and o-DSMT.
Are not banned, can stil be sold as 'not for human consumption'.
 
Shocking but not surprising after the 1-st chamber debate: a Warning

"Important notice!
We are deeply affected by the (fatal) incidents reported by the Netherlands Food and Consumer Product Safety Authority (NVWA) in recent days. The news has hit us hard. We are truly shocked, and our condolences go out to everyone affected, directly or indirectly. It haunts us all.

Our research substances are never intended for human consumption, just as nitrous oxide cartridges, for example, can be misused for human consumption. The fact that such risks still arise is a major concern for us.

... has never offered benzodiazepines in powder form :poop:

[short memory i bought Etizolam/ Clonazolam/ Diclazepam powder mixed with a inert substance many times before the site was taken over by a other party ! So caught on a lie instantly. Be warned. Don t trust your live with these new vendors as is]

The form that can cause accidents with just a few milligrams, which has now led to these tragic events. Yet, despite repeated warnings that our products are never intended for human consumption, this forces us to critically reexamine what we sell. We begin with 2-FDCK, the research substance that is now also indirectly under the scrutiny of the Netherlands Food and Consumer Product Safety Authority (NVWA). This deeply affects us. We want to do everything we can to prevent, despite our warnings (such as H373: may cause organ damage through prolonged or repeated exposure), accidents from occurring with substances we supply for chemistry research, which are absolutely never intended for human consumption.
Therefore, we will immediately cease selling these substances"

https://radar.avrotros.nl/artikel/f...medicijnen-handel-in-menselijke-ellende-62114
[death s by trade in illegal medicine s by Radar/ a consumer friendly party]

[after getting feed back of a Dutch person after complaining about 2-FDCK]
It doesn t really surprise me. In line with what the opposition of the ban painted as outcome.2/ 3 or 1/ 2 were in hands of illegal drug manufacturer s already.


Keep safe.At least go to a test facility before taking it.
Btw Benzo s are not sold openly any more.
Afaik RC the initial vendors retired, or went undercover.
So these are no longer 'legally' on the menu since 1-juli.
But Dissociative s, Tryptamine s and Lysergic s are.
Whatever, but sold by money maker s. Not people i d trust.
 
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