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Below I lay out a comparison between vaped DMT from a cart on a battery and Salvinorin-A that I extracted from SalviaDivinorum leaf recrystallized onto fragments of cigarette paper in a small pipe using a regular lighter.
ignition:
DMT cart - I am using a small battery with a button that I have to squeeze, I had a battery that worked just by air pressure but I gave it away. It was a bit low powered and therefore was less reliable in its operation.
getting the dmt into my lungs is the easiest thing to achieve this way.
Salvinorin A - I put a precut piece of cigarette paper that contains ~350 ug of salvinorin into a tiny chillum and ignite it using a tiny lighter from my small leather pouch (which looks so shamanic! and feels like ASMR)
inhalation:
DMT cart - I inhale steadily for 5 - 8 seconds usually but have occasionally gone much more but found the effects too physically discombobulating if I inhale for more than 13 seconds. Then I hold as long as I can, often letting a little air out when it feels too long, but if smoke emerges I hold even longer.
Salvinorin A - I inhale for about 1-2 seconds at which point the whole paper piece had combusted fully and the drug is in my lungs - so little smoke is involved that it hardly has any flavor and if I exhale too early no smoke is visible, I try to hold for at least 20 to 30 seconds.
initial effects up to 90 seconds:
DMT cart - If I havenot used the DMT vape for a couple of days the visual effects begin with astonishing detail usually from a kind of pareidolia and extending beyond that fractal enhancement.
If I have used DMT in the last day or so the first 90 seconds is just a bit warm, and loose feeling, not like weed, but still somewhat joyful feeling.
Salvinorin A - this drug always produces strong effects but the first 90 seconds just feel a bit warm and hardly feel like anything is going to happen at all.
between 90 seconds and 5 minutes:
DMT cart - Whether I have used DMT recently or not, the high is euphoric, but if I have not been using it much recently the visuals are truly astonishing, they build upon the gaze, which is to say if I pause to observe any part of the view, that part ramifies and becomes more complex like a tree or an opening tunnel or flying through space compounding upon itself, or characters moving around and emerging from flat surfaces. During this period there is usually euphoria, and often also a feeling of warm pressure around the heart or other parts of the body. If I inhaled too much, during this time I will feel fucked, such that no movement is comforting, my heart is racing, and breathing is confused. For some people this may be taken as ego loss or breakthrough.
Salvinorin A - In this timed window of the experience, sensory and mental content layering becomes very intense. Visuals usually seem to begin either with fractal plant like forms emerging and branching through layered dimensions, or like dents in spacetime, somewhat reminicent of the compound eyes of insects. It is neither euphoric or disphoric to me, but strong physical distortions, from weight or gravity to sweating, tingling, tearing, stretching, or burning skin sensations - which can be negatively interpreted if not expected. If the piece of Salvinorin A paper was too big (I cut them by eye - they are not exactly the same dose every time), in this window of time I will be struggling dysphorically and might actually move around as a reflex to something, hardly aware of moving at all, until the change in the physical context breaks through the intensity of hallucination.
between 5 minutes and 1/2 hour:
DMT cart - The inebriation slowly fades after ~5 minutes, during which time if visuals have been strong, it is still sometimes possible to latch onto a visual artifact and observe it ramify into something amazing. This feels empowering and very free. It is also very natural, rich and oneiric.
If I inhaled too much, after the extreme effects it is again possible to enjoy ramifying visuals or sensations - which are less confusing and more mind manifesting in this later time window.
Salvinorin A - In this timed window of the experience, I can act fairly normally but I still feel the dents in the time space continuum and may see and feel the world in a particulate aggregate way.
If I am aware of my movement, I can relax into the strobing or trailing nature of the sensations.
for an hour or more afterwards:
DMT cart - I may or may not feel envigorated by DMT after the main effects have faded. I do feel like I have had a sweet treat however, and may be a bit cheery from that. The physical afterglow is present but not very strong. I find this is a good experience for before bed time, if I just go for one to 4 inhallations, but if I use more, I am too stimulated to go to bed. Any time is fine if I will not be required to perform anything responsibly.
Salvinorin A - the afterglow is usually invigorating, and to a lesser extent I still feel the dents in the time space continuum and If I am aware of my movement, I can relax into the strobing or trailing nature of the sensations. I find it is a good start to my day, but any time is fine if I will not be required to perform anything responsibly.
frequency of usage:
DMT cart - when I get a new cart I like to take several inhalations in an evening for a few days running. It is very more-ish, after a few days, however, it seems to lose its kick but still has a strong appeal. I have to hide it from myself to keep it special, and that is not easy.
Salvinorin A - I practically never take a second inhalation during one of my salvia sessions, but often I will do it several days in a row, it never seems to lose its kick.
Summary:
Salvinorin A is more inspirational than DMT- however both are very strong potentially transcendent mind manifesting drugs with rapid onset when smoked and both are capable of putting the user into a brief and unsettling amnesiac state if taken in too large an amount.
ignition:
DMT cart - I am using a small battery with a button that I have to squeeze, I had a battery that worked just by air pressure but I gave it away. It was a bit low powered and therefore was less reliable in its operation.
getting the dmt into my lungs is the easiest thing to achieve this way.
Salvinorin A - I put a precut piece of cigarette paper that contains ~350 ug of salvinorin into a tiny chillum and ignite it using a tiny lighter from my small leather pouch (which looks so shamanic! and feels like ASMR)
inhalation:
DMT cart - I inhale steadily for 5 - 8 seconds usually but have occasionally gone much more but found the effects too physically discombobulating if I inhale for more than 13 seconds. Then I hold as long as I can, often letting a little air out when it feels too long, but if smoke emerges I hold even longer.
Salvinorin A - I inhale for about 1-2 seconds at which point the whole paper piece had combusted fully and the drug is in my lungs - so little smoke is involved that it hardly has any flavor and if I exhale too early no smoke is visible, I try to hold for at least 20 to 30 seconds.
initial effects up to 90 seconds:
DMT cart - If I havenot used the DMT vape for a couple of days the visual effects begin with astonishing detail usually from a kind of pareidolia and extending beyond that fractal enhancement.
If I have used DMT in the last day or so the first 90 seconds is just a bit warm, and loose feeling, not like weed, but still somewhat joyful feeling.
Salvinorin A - this drug always produces strong effects but the first 90 seconds just feel a bit warm and hardly feel like anything is going to happen at all.
between 90 seconds and 5 minutes:
DMT cart - Whether I have used DMT recently or not, the high is euphoric, but if I have not been using it much recently the visuals are truly astonishing, they build upon the gaze, which is to say if I pause to observe any part of the view, that part ramifies and becomes more complex like a tree or an opening tunnel or flying through space compounding upon itself, or characters moving around and emerging from flat surfaces. During this period there is usually euphoria, and often also a feeling of warm pressure around the heart or other parts of the body. If I inhaled too much, during this time I will feel fucked, such that no movement is comforting, my heart is racing, and breathing is confused. For some people this may be taken as ego loss or breakthrough.
Salvinorin A - In this timed window of the experience, sensory and mental content layering becomes very intense. Visuals usually seem to begin either with fractal plant like forms emerging and branching through layered dimensions, or like dents in spacetime, somewhat reminicent of the compound eyes of insects. It is neither euphoric or disphoric to me, but strong physical distortions, from weight or gravity to sweating, tingling, tearing, stretching, or burning skin sensations - which can be negatively interpreted if not expected. If the piece of Salvinorin A paper was too big (I cut them by eye - they are not exactly the same dose every time), in this window of time I will be struggling dysphorically and might actually move around as a reflex to something, hardly aware of moving at all, until the change in the physical context breaks through the intensity of hallucination.
between 5 minutes and 1/2 hour:
DMT cart - The inebriation slowly fades after ~5 minutes, during which time if visuals have been strong, it is still sometimes possible to latch onto a visual artifact and observe it ramify into something amazing. This feels empowering and very free. It is also very natural, rich and oneiric.
If I inhaled too much, after the extreme effects it is again possible to enjoy ramifying visuals or sensations - which are less confusing and more mind manifesting in this later time window.
Salvinorin A - In this timed window of the experience, I can act fairly normally but I still feel the dents in the time space continuum and may see and feel the world in a particulate aggregate way.
If I am aware of my movement, I can relax into the strobing or trailing nature of the sensations.
for an hour or more afterwards:
DMT cart - I may or may not feel envigorated by DMT after the main effects have faded. I do feel like I have had a sweet treat however, and may be a bit cheery from that. The physical afterglow is present but not very strong. I find this is a good experience for before bed time, if I just go for one to 4 inhallations, but if I use more, I am too stimulated to go to bed. Any time is fine if I will not be required to perform anything responsibly.
Salvinorin A - the afterglow is usually invigorating, and to a lesser extent I still feel the dents in the time space continuum and If I am aware of my movement, I can relax into the strobing or trailing nature of the sensations. I find it is a good start to my day, but any time is fine if I will not be required to perform anything responsibly.
frequency of usage:
DMT cart - when I get a new cart I like to take several inhalations in an evening for a few days running. It is very more-ish, after a few days, however, it seems to lose its kick but still has a strong appeal. I have to hide it from myself to keep it special, and that is not easy.
Salvinorin A - I practically never take a second inhalation during one of my salvia sessions, but often I will do it several days in a row, it never seems to lose its kick.
Summary:
Salvinorin A is more inspirational than DMT- however both are very strong potentially transcendent mind manifesting drugs with rapid onset when smoked and both are capable of putting the user into a brief and unsettling amnesiac state if taken in too large an amount.
