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Tryptamines DET? Anyone tried it?
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I have not, but Shulgin and friends have..
DOSAGE : 50-100 mg, orally
DURATION : 2 - 4 hrs
QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 44 mg, orally) "I was in a public place, and might have had to interact with someone at any moment, which probably accounted for a grim paranoia and wish to retreat. I had my full effect in just over an hour, with almost no visual or physical properties, but a crashing fear of interacting. I had to retreat to a private place to read and appear deeply involved, but in another hour I found it an increasingly easy task to pretend to be normal. I carried it off, OK. Good sleep, no residues."
(with 75 mg, orally) "Onset seemed to be at 40 minutes, which were mostly physical symptoms, which seemed to fade away at 1.25 hours. All in all, an absolutely profound, enriching experience with both Brahms (G-minor piano quartet) and Verdi (requiem) contributing mightily. All over in 3.5 - 4.5 hours and a delightful afterglow."
(with 150 mg, orally) "There was a slow onset. It was more than an hour before something started, which I didn't believe at first but which became completely undeniable. I was heading toward an appointment, and walked right past the meeting place. I was unable to concentrate on just where I was and where I was hoping to go. With enormous effort I located my appointment coordinates but the sidewalk was doing funny things and I again managed to miss my target. I sat down to try to manage things, but I couldn't."
(with 150 mg, orally) "The effects were manifestly notable in 50-60 minutes, quite intense from hour one to hour three. Then there is an hour when trailing is still perceptible. By hour five it is all over. There appeared to be 'vegetative effects' as they used to say. I definitely noted sweating of hands and feet. There was a hollowness in the chest. There was an insignificant presser response, but pronounced tachycardia, with my normal resting pulse in the 60's going up above 100 for a while. I think that 150 milligrams is a little too much."
(with 400 mg, orally) "Too much."
(with 40 mg, smoking) "I have found that ten milligrams of DET is the size of a match head, so I smoked four of them. The taste of the stuff is terrible -- it smells like burning plastic -- but I don't care. The onset was gentle, in about five minutes, euphoric and empathogenic, and there was an immediate camaraderie with the group I was with (they were using between twenty and forty milligrams apiece). I found myself stroking a calico cat, and asked a friend, 'Do people purr?' and was told, 'Sure, if you know how to listen.' We began scratching one anothers backs, and made vaguely purring noises."
(with 90 mg, smoking) "This was with 3x30 milligrams, at ten minute intervals. It took almost too much concentration for the last toke. Too stoned. Some emotional insights, but I can't remember them to write them. Fine muscular tremor. Some hangover the next day, lassitude, fine edge of thought was blunted."
(with 40 mg, subcutaneously) "There was a slight burning and a numbness of both the hands and feet some twenty minutes. A few minutes later I felt an alcohol-like intoxication and a slight drifting of thoughts. Music was slightly enhanced and eyes-closed patterning was noted, with a predominance of greens and oranges. No music, no patterns. The effects peaked at 30 minutes, but the numbness I felt lasted up to three hours. Overall, this was somewhat disappointing."
(with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "The yellow walls with many windows in them, massing over one another, appeared in increased intensity, had an air of medieval mood about them. The ornaments, painted white, on the roof and eaves had a particularly strong decorative effect. A test subject, without a painter's fantasy, must certainly be greatly impressed by this depth and colorfulness. I felt as I did when I began to learn painting, when I tried to look at things consciously with a painter's eye. I felt that the drug acted on fantasy, in the first place, increasing its dynamism. On a subject with normal mind, this experience will certainly have an astonishing and marvelous effect. An artist with creative mind and fantasy will be less impressed."
(with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "About 15 minutes after the injection came the same vegetative symptoms seen with DMT. The illusions and hallucinations were the same. But the alteration of the surrounding world and the emotional reaction to them were strong and impressive. The mask-like faces of the persons, the dream-like mysteriousness of the objects in the room gave me the feeling that I had arrived in another world, entirely different and queer and full of secrecy and mystery. The wonderful but strange world attracted me at one moment, but the next moment I did not want to accept it. I became perplexed; I did not know what I ought to do. I began to walk anxiously up and down, and said, 'I ought to do something, I must!' There was a peculiar double orientation in space and time: I knew where I was, but I was inclined to accept this strange world as a reality, too. The dusk of the room was lightened for some minutes, and again the light was switched off, and that seemed to me as if this period might be an entire epoch, filled with events and happenings, but at the same time I knew that only several minutes had passed."
(with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "The vertigo is gone -- now comes the attraction. I have the honor of seeing the elements of the universe in this moment. As if I saw algae, flagellates under the microscope, in black and white. Now I see some colours, too. As if I saw a shell, the rainbow colours are disintegrating rapidly. One's consciousness becomes air-like. From the neck upward I am feeling a shapeless lightness. If we could inoculate this into all men, human inter-relations would undoubtedly improve greatly."
(with 60 mg, intravenously) "I was looking out of the window. I was seeing the leaves of a tree, the color of the grass, people walking to and fro utterly without thinking, like a small child staring at things. I felt as if I were discovering the world anew."
(with 60 mg, intravenously) "The objects opened up their essence to me, I was feeling as if I knew them as they really are, I live in them and was in direct contact with them. I felt an enormous drive to write, to put down the marvelous feelings. The associations came spontaneously, but I was unable to concentrate in a way required for working. Anyway, I did not want to miss one moment of the visions."
DOSAGE : 50-100 mg, orally
DURATION : 2 - 4 hrs
QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 44 mg, orally) "I was in a public place, and might have had to interact with someone at any moment, which probably accounted for a grim paranoia and wish to retreat. I had my full effect in just over an hour, with almost no visual or physical properties, but a crashing fear of interacting. I had to retreat to a private place to read and appear deeply involved, but in another hour I found it an increasingly easy task to pretend to be normal. I carried it off, OK. Good sleep, no residues."
(with 75 mg, orally) "Onset seemed to be at 40 minutes, which were mostly physical symptoms, which seemed to fade away at 1.25 hours. All in all, an absolutely profound, enriching experience with both Brahms (G-minor piano quartet) and Verdi (requiem) contributing mightily. All over in 3.5 - 4.5 hours and a delightful afterglow."
(with 150 mg, orally) "There was a slow onset. It was more than an hour before something started, which I didn't believe at first but which became completely undeniable. I was heading toward an appointment, and walked right past the meeting place. I was unable to concentrate on just where I was and where I was hoping to go. With enormous effort I located my appointment coordinates but the sidewalk was doing funny things and I again managed to miss my target. I sat down to try to manage things, but I couldn't."
(with 150 mg, orally) "The effects were manifestly notable in 50-60 minutes, quite intense from hour one to hour three. Then there is an hour when trailing is still perceptible. By hour five it is all over. There appeared to be 'vegetative effects' as they used to say. I definitely noted sweating of hands and feet. There was a hollowness in the chest. There was an insignificant presser response, but pronounced tachycardia, with my normal resting pulse in the 60's going up above 100 for a while. I think that 150 milligrams is a little too much."
(with 400 mg, orally) "Too much."
(with 40 mg, smoking) "I have found that ten milligrams of DET is the size of a match head, so I smoked four of them. The taste of the stuff is terrible -- it smells like burning plastic -- but I don't care. The onset was gentle, in about five minutes, euphoric and empathogenic, and there was an immediate camaraderie with the group I was with (they were using between twenty and forty milligrams apiece). I found myself stroking a calico cat, and asked a friend, 'Do people purr?' and was told, 'Sure, if you know how to listen.' We began scratching one anothers backs, and made vaguely purring noises."
(with 90 mg, smoking) "This was with 3x30 milligrams, at ten minute intervals. It took almost too much concentration for the last toke. Too stoned. Some emotional insights, but I can't remember them to write them. Fine muscular tremor. Some hangover the next day, lassitude, fine edge of thought was blunted."
(with 40 mg, subcutaneously) "There was a slight burning and a numbness of both the hands and feet some twenty minutes. A few minutes later I felt an alcohol-like intoxication and a slight drifting of thoughts. Music was slightly enhanced and eyes-closed patterning was noted, with a predominance of greens and oranges. No music, no patterns. The effects peaked at 30 minutes, but the numbness I felt lasted up to three hours. Overall, this was somewhat disappointing."
(with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "The yellow walls with many windows in them, massing over one another, appeared in increased intensity, had an air of medieval mood about them. The ornaments, painted white, on the roof and eaves had a particularly strong decorative effect. A test subject, without a painter's fantasy, must certainly be greatly impressed by this depth and colorfulness. I felt as I did when I began to learn painting, when I tried to look at things consciously with a painter's eye. I felt that the drug acted on fantasy, in the first place, increasing its dynamism. On a subject with normal mind, this experience will certainly have an astonishing and marvelous effect. An artist with creative mind and fantasy will be less impressed."
(with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "About 15 minutes after the injection came the same vegetative symptoms seen with DMT. The illusions and hallucinations were the same. But the alteration of the surrounding world and the emotional reaction to them were strong and impressive. The mask-like faces of the persons, the dream-like mysteriousness of the objects in the room gave me the feeling that I had arrived in another world, entirely different and queer and full of secrecy and mystery. The wonderful but strange world attracted me at one moment, but the next moment I did not want to accept it. I became perplexed; I did not know what I ought to do. I began to walk anxiously up and down, and said, 'I ought to do something, I must!' There was a peculiar double orientation in space and time: I knew where I was, but I was inclined to accept this strange world as a reality, too. The dusk of the room was lightened for some minutes, and again the light was switched off, and that seemed to me as if this period might be an entire epoch, filled with events and happenings, but at the same time I knew that only several minutes had passed."
(with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "The vertigo is gone -- now comes the attraction. I have the honor of seeing the elements of the universe in this moment. As if I saw algae, flagellates under the microscope, in black and white. Now I see some colours, too. As if I saw a shell, the rainbow colours are disintegrating rapidly. One's consciousness becomes air-like. From the neck upward I am feeling a shapeless lightness. If we could inoculate this into all men, human inter-relations would undoubtedly improve greatly."
(with 60 mg, intravenously) "I was looking out of the window. I was seeing the leaves of a tree, the color of the grass, people walking to and fro utterly without thinking, like a small child staring at things. I felt as if I were discovering the world anew."
(with 60 mg, intravenously) "The objects opened up their essence to me, I was feeling as if I knew them as they really are, I live in them and was in direct contact with them. I felt an enormous drive to write, to put down the marvelous feelings. The associations came spontaneously, but I was unable to concentrate in a way required for working. Anyway, I did not want to miss one moment of the visions."
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Very easy to make (substitute acetalaldehyde instead of formaldehyde *DMT) but still rare.
Only tried a few times and it was smoked vaped, so I've no info on oral. Smoked, my dosage was 30-60mgs, so not super adventurois
I called it DMT lite. Strong tryptamine vibes, visual but only on the peripherals of vision (reminded me of MET which i found to be warmer*)
I'd see fractals on edge of vision but when I tried to move my head, the fractals would move too. Was able to hold a decent convo throughout the experience tho one of my tripping partners was clearly spaced.
Smoked, the duration was I'd say 45-60 min.
I preferred MET, but I tend to prefer at least one methyl on my tryptamine nitrogens.
I did enjoy 4-HO-DIPT quite a bit... probably because it was 3 hrs. 4-HO-MIPT, which I enjoyed a lot was like 8 hrs..
Wasn't a huge fan of 4-Aco-DET either...
Anyway it was OK. I'd give it 6/10...
Only tried a few times and it was smoked vaped, so I've no info on oral. Smoked, my dosage was 30-60mgs, so not super adventurois
I called it DMT lite. Strong tryptamine vibes, visual but only on the peripherals of vision (reminded me of MET which i found to be warmer*)
I'd see fractals on edge of vision but when I tried to move my head, the fractals would move too. Was able to hold a decent convo throughout the experience tho one of my tripping partners was clearly spaced.
Smoked, the duration was I'd say 45-60 min.
I preferred MET, but I tend to prefer at least one methyl on my tryptamine nitrogens.
I did enjoy 4-HO-DIPT quite a bit... probably because it was 3 hrs. 4-HO-MIPT, which I enjoyed a lot was like 8 hrs..
Wasn't a huge fan of 4-Aco-DET either...
Anyway it was OK. I'd give it 6/10...
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Pretty funny just how often this holds true for me, as well.
That was what made my glasses jiggle Didge - the idea of it being orally active DMT with no maoi. If it lasts 45 minutes when smoked that's pretty good.
Gonna have to get into smoking DMT - always preferred oral but nowadays they have these new-fangled DMT vapes that sound good.
Ime DET is lovely tryptamine, nice and enjoyable. I had it orally, similarities to mushrooms are obvious, but nothing overwhelming or intense, low body load, very specific is effect on hearing, any sound is multilayered euphoric experience. Would be great for appreciating music, but even listening to flow of water is very pleasant. Must be perfect tool for any sound engineer or musician.
I would describe it in a way that what is 2C-B to mescaline is DET to DMT/psilocybin.
It's strange that it's not more popular, afaik it's quite easy to prepare.
I would describe it in a way that what is 2C-B to mescaline is DET to DMT/psilocybin.
It's strange that it's not more popular, afaik it's quite easy to prepare.
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Sorry - only tasted DPT which I am informed is very similar but less potent.
Good - two hours or so when consumed orally.
But that was then and this is now and even 30+ years ago I knew of people who would misrepresent 5-MeO tryptamines as the plain tryptamines. 5MeO DMT is awful and we know 5-MeO AMT is hazrdous. So be careful and know what you have.
Good - two hours or so when consumed orally.
But that was then and this is now and even 30+ years ago I knew of people who would misrepresent 5-MeO tryptamines as the plain tryptamines. 5MeO DMT is awful and we know 5-MeO AMT is hazrdous. So be careful and know what you have.
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Agreed. I have to say I only use a few substances and are legit. (cannabis, mushrooms) I have been reading posts and getting angry at the vendor situation (as well as the street situation). Never seen so much fraud if a person is not in the know. At least we have some people here at BL that can call BS on some things. I mean I may be talking about gummies, but you too 4DQ have alluded in another thread (dissociative?) that people never know what they have unless they test it with fancy equipment. I truly believe that and with some rare substances moreso, I mean even these days most DMT people seem to buy from someone else seems genuine, at least I think. No experience with that. But what about DET? What are the odds one of the DN vendors would have genuine DET?
Example: when a person says, let's say bromazolam, why does one guy says it wears off in a day and others say it lasts days? I am not thinking it is because of the logical idea that we all have different metabolisms. I am thinking with both people it could be any substances unless tested.
I always thought all 3 of the simple tryptamines that begin with D were all very different, But I see DET is somewhat similar to DPT for some? I have never had it but have wanted to try. Never came across it. Let's face it, pre internet you had to know people. Not much DET around. I wonder what the odds a layperson (not someone in the know) would truly come across DET?
Recently went to the trip report section and searched for DET experiences.
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Thanks man, feel free to write up a trip report.
I am always interested.
I haven't had a chance to try it but what i've read over the decades about DET makes me think its one of the best tryptamines, gratuitously banned before most had tried it.
It's literally inbetween DMT and DPT. That says it all.
It's literally inbetween DMT and DPT. That says it all.
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I thought DPT sucked.
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I haven't tried it, but I don't think it comes close to either DPT or DMT in normal doses. It seems to be quite manageable overall - and a shortie too. The friend above really recommended it to me, saying I'd really like it. While I do respect DMT, I don't think I like it and while I have not tried DPT, it does not seem like my cup of tea at all. I do trust my friend's intuition. Maybe I shouldn't have passed on that "reference sample" he wanted to give me. But I do have my standards. And I'm a bit wary of triptamines. They are a bit too tryppi for me!
I've got to say the thread piqued my curiosity. I wonder how my acetaldehyde is doing.
I've got to say the thread piqued my curiosity. I wonder how my acetaldehyde is doing.
Ime DET is less trippy than DMT.
When I did it I was expecting more serious trip (and did all the preparations towards it) but it turned out that it's quite an "easy" tryptamine. Low level of anxiety during come up, slightly relaxed feeling and less mind confusion. More gentle than DMT or mushrooms, but also less entheogenic.
When I did it I was expecting more serious trip (and did all the preparations towards it) but it turned out that it's quite an "easy" tryptamine. Low level of anxiety during come up, slightly relaxed feeling and less mind confusion. More gentle than DMT or mushrooms, but also less entheogenic.
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Is it as crushing as DPT? I like DPT. But it is very strong and not for the casual tripper. Makes me wonder if DET is also crushing. But by some of the descriptions you have given, it seems it may not be. Thanks again for adding to the mystery of DET.