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Ethnobotanicals I like Calamus root

little rush of euphoria at 00.48:
00.56: the queasyness is gone but it's exchanged by a slight heavy feeling and general sense of acidic stomach, but not to the point of using anything to solve it, I feel mostly OK. I would say I feel pretty good. My sweat smells so foul which is typical of stims, this feels pretty stim like, a bit like low dose 3-mmc without the dopamine rush. The serotonin-like psychedelic glow is there. I do all things slower, like I don't give a fuck, feeling pretty relaxed physically, like I could have a nap, but mentally very stimulated. Silence appreciation (calamus signature in my opinion) it's very noticeable. I have a feeling of acceptance and gratitude, typical of serotonin releasers or phenylethylamines. The eroticism keeps increased, but not like 2C-C or 3-MMC, more spiritual sided, like mescaline.
 
01.30 to 02.20: stabilized feeling of pleasant stimulation, calmness and anti-anxiety effects, smooth psychedelic mindset with vision enhancement (but not visuals)...
having a shower was very nice, I had several deep thoughts, introspective feelings, more than social urges. I got a bit sad when thinking about different current issues in my life, but I could manage that easily due to the body high and mindset. Going outside to the outer terrace is great, the wind is blowing softly, feels mdma-ish but not very strong, more empathogen like than psychedelic, but clearly a phenethylamine feeling. No nausea or acidic feelings whatsoever.

I must note some differences between my experience at the moment and 69ron's one. For him the experience was more psychedelic and had some minor visuals, he is very sensitive but I don't think that's the main issue but probably he got fresher calamus or he had (very likely) Acorus Americanus instead of Acorus Calamus (european, Poland in my case). Seems that A. Americanus is more psychedelic than the european counterpart. Another difference is that he felt that it was completely stimulating and not sedating or anxyolitic at all, this is not being my case but the 3grams ashwa and haritaki could have changed some stuff.. I felt it was very stimulating at first and it keeps being mentally stimulating but while not sedating it has a serotonin glow that makes it very anxyolitic and somewhat sedating in terms of not wanting to do so many physical stuff. I should warn that different calamus that grow in different parts of the world (even in the same (big) countries) can have very different compounds or at least ratio of compounds, like kratom, so the effects can be quite different.

In anycase there's a very important thing to notice: 12 grams acetone washed seems to be completely nausea free, so the emetic compound seems to be isolated by acetone, and at least some interesting actives are kept.
This feels like a nootropic empathogen with a psychedelic hint in its headspace.
Will report back at 3.00 to 4.00h
 
ok, so I think I'm at the end of the story.
i would surely do it again, but with different material, like A.Americanus or perhaps 15-20g acetone washed extracted recent material, without vinegar.
hours 3.00 to 4.00 and 4.00 to 6.00 have been similar. At first clear steady euphoria with a very noticeable sense of serotonin peace a very mental stimulation, some body glow similar to mescaline but much lighter. Time passed fast, I wasn't doing so much, I mean, I was procrastinating in a way, but not feeling bad about it. I have an strange situation today with my ex and in some other day it would have been quite disastrous, today I consider it important, but not really, I could see it from a psychological distance.
now it's a bit more relaxed, not as stimulating but not sedating, a bit dissociative like which is typical of calamus sometimes.
Seems a pretty distinct experience compared to calamus on its own. I had absolutely no stomach discomfort in terms of nausea. Just the acidic crap of too much vinegar, but it wasn't bad at all.

I think higher/fresher doses or the Americanus variety could deliver light psychedelic effects as the introspective mental stimulation, sense enhancement and thought/perception changes are subtle but clear and all point to a psychedelic experience that's about to happen. This could be just a nootropic enhancement but something resembling light breathing on walls/ceiling makes me think it's more a 5-HT2a agonism thing....

Will update here if this has any feedback..
 
Hi there guys, it's me again, last post (of mine) on this thread at least till new experiments..
it's +08:00 and there's still VERY noticeable effects, this shit it's STRONG, whatever the actives are water soluble and not acetone soluble are very very potent or at least very long lasting.
There's a very obvious focus, a relaxing serotonin-like laser focus.. I know it sounds contradictory, but it's how I see LSD too, as a seroton-y laser focus.
For that reason I think that there must be some 5-ht2a activity but it can also be some MAOi activity that last quite long along with some other stuff potentiated by the MAOi, who knows.

When I was for a walk, an hour ago, I thought the effects were gone... I was quite wrong. When having the walk all was super intense and clear, very similar to when you're ending a psychedelic journey, you want things to be "normal" again but all it's just too intense and detailed to be considered "normal" yet. You cannot miss that, it's just too real. It was something similar, not super strong but very clearly non-placebo. The "guiris" (tourists) were so crispy clear, so detailed, I could almost see their souls and intentions when watching them, they seemed more human to me than usually (light empathogen qualities).
The headspace was progressively more dream-like, more similar to LSA or mescaline/2C-C than other stuff, but more electric and nootropic/racetamic like, so more stimulating in some way.

I'm my opinion this test has been a success, and for me means that I would keep researching the power of Acorus varieties and forms.
 
Good stuff, been interested in calamus root, and some of these other natural occurring substances. I think I may start gathering some of the write ups that neurobrain and G_Chem post and keep them in one area. Keep them organized. I started doing that with Chris Timothy and amanitas. There are some substances here that have been written off in the past. But we all know how that goes. Salvia was written off years ago until Daniel Siebert revisited it. And I suspect some of that might happen here too so thank you for writing the stuff up guys.
 
JackARoe said:
Good stuff, been interested in calamus root, and some of these other natural occurring substances. I think I may start gathering some of the write ups that neurobrain and G_Chem post and keep them in one area. Keep them organized. I started doing that with Chris Timothy and amanitas. There are some substances here that have been written off in the past. But we all know how that goes. Salvia was written off years ago until Daniel Siebert revisited it. And I suspect some of that might happen here too so thank you for writing the stuff up guys.
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My plan is doing that with several plants, some quite unknown. Next one will be with kanna, and growing kanna and aizoaceae family. I also want to grow Khat and varieties of Erythroxylum

same with with some nootropics and RCs if I find the time and money..
Thanks for the info, I will try to check that out in the search bar!!
 
I didn't any other calamus extraction yet, but my results were clear: it works and it works better and much more safe than eating 12 grams of non extracted calamus.
Now I want to talk about eating calamus essential oil. I've tried 1 drop (from india, high beta asarone content), above baseline and above placebo but not by a long shot. 2 drops, quite above baseline, little euphoria and a little rush for like 5 minutes,not very stimulating, increased recall of dreams.
3 drops, still no nausea, very obvious euphoria and above baseline, (strangely, the rush was shorter) clear and evidente mental stimulation during 3 hours, cannot sleep, took a diazepam 5mg...:
incredible, bizarre, lucid dreams with very obvious shamanic undertones. Great.
 
Neuroborean said:
I didn't any other calamus extraction yet, but my results were clear: it works and it works better and much more safe than eating 12 grams of non extracted calamus.
Now I want to talk about eating calamus essential oil. I've tried 1 drop (from india, high beta asarone content), above baseline and above placebo but not by a long shot. 2 drops, quite above baseline, little euphoria and a little rush for like 5 minutes,not very stimulating, increased recall of dreams.
3 drops, still no nausea, very obvious euphoria and above baseline, (strangely, the rush was shorter) clear and evidente mental stimulation during 3 hours, cannot sleep, took a diazepam 5mg...:
incredible, bizarre, lucid dreams with very obvious shamanic undertones. Great.
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Calamus can be tough to get right on its own, but I love mixing it with serotonergics. I rarely speak of it due to asarone's known carcinogenic effects, but once every couple of years I gobble up acorus calamus root powder during or after a high dosed trip usually. It's like ketamine or cannabis in the way that it will "flare up" a trip even if it's winding down.

On its own I found it to be predominantly just a stimulant, but to some degree it was akin to a psychedelic. It complimented HBWR in every trial that involved the two together.

Edit: I forgot to mention, I sometimes would facetiously refer to the gel caps of powder as "alligator pills" because acorus makes me feel hyperfocused, like an alligator with its eyes just above the water, waiting in perfect stillness, but more ready than I've ever been for anything else. But for nothing in particular. There's also a mescaline-like quality to the visual and tactile effects, I imagine essential amphetamines that resemble mescaline and MDA such as MMDA-2, etc. are probably similar but I've yet to try those.
 
Esperighanto said:
Calamus can be tough to get right on its own, but I love mixing it with serotonergics. I rarely speak of it due to asarone's known carcinogenic effects, but once every couple of years I gobble up acorus calamus root powder during or after a high dosed trip usually. It's like ketamine or cannabis in the way that it will "flare up" a trip even if it's winding down.

On its own I found it to be predominantly just a stimulant, but to some degree it was akin to a psychedelic. It complimented HBWR in every trial that involved the two together.

Edit: I forgot to mention, I sometimes would facetiously refer to the gel caps of powder as "alligator pills" because acorus makes me feel hyperfocused, like an alligator with its eyes just above the water, waiting in perfect stillness, but more ready than I've ever been for anything else. But for nothing in particular. There's also a mescaline-like quality to the visual and tactile effects, I imagine essential amphetamines that resemble mescaline and MDA such as MMDA-2, etc. are probably similar but I've yet to try those.
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Honestly I think it's a quite understimated plant, and probably there's ways to make it work better, as I've tried several times with extractions, mixtures... My intuition tells me that there's more to the plant still undiscovered, I've felt that "connection" with that plant, like it has a lot to say, like kratom or kava kava have a lot to say, and amanita also (but well, Amanitas are that to the point of being entheogens...) I also feel that hyperfocused but hypercalm zen state with calaamus, it's specific to this plant. I also think there's some serotonergic activity to it as in my case the oneirogens that work for me are serotoninergic agonists or modulators of some kind.
No idea about TMA or TMA2 either... but I also feel some psychedelic-esque activity in high doses, specially with 69ron's acetone extract.
 
Neuroborean said:
69ron's acetone extract.
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Be very careful of 69ron's teks from the dmt nexus. Many have been shown to leave highly unsafe amounts of trace impurities. The two names I'm always suspicious of there are tregar and 69ron, due to the controversial nature of why (especially tregar) left that forum.
 
When in the ZOO at the water a Acorus Calamus stood Blooming.
The flower being a Cigar like Corn cob. The beauty of the plant show s.
Not a show of, but big Green leaves, Green flower and hanging over the pond.
Many psychoactive plant s in the ZOO btw, and a Bufo Alvarus.

Knew from the botanical book s about the slight psychoactive effect s.
No way i d sacrifice a single plant for that, but when in acces.
The effects don t seemed worth its looks when alive.
 
Esperighanto said:
Be very careful of 69ron's teks from the dmt nexus. Many have been shown to leave highly unsafe amounts of trace impurities. The two names I'm always suspicious of there are tregar and 69ron, due to the controversial nature of why (especially tregar) left that forum.
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Honestly I cannot fully agree with this, in fact one reason I barely use my dmt-nexus account it's the fact that they started attacking 69Ron with strange and even absurd reasons (the accusations were ridiculous in some aspects, when considering the real facts about what he did and did not), I just couldn't take them seriously if they attacked one the most interesting and intelligent posters there...it was such a dissapointment for me.
 
Neuroborean really, part of bluelight crew? Are you 69Ron and Tregar too?

Still taking pictures and posting of young naked girls in the waterpark? It seems to me that DMT-Nexus is doing a better job then Bluelight.

1. I see a two persons or one who write almost a complete book in every reply, then repeating it over and over again.
2. Bufetonine is the best psychedelic, sure. I can go on and on it's not worth my time, don't feed trolls.

3. It seems intelligent, but it's full of his special derivates, and claims which seems pseudo-scientific to me, or have you or someone reproduced and verified any of it?
4. When the Nook dissappeared they definitly became the most respected authorithy on cactus and extractions and DMT and 5-MeO-DMT and extractions and they seem quite scientific and capable to me to distinguish facts from bullshit. So clarify and prove me wrong instead of saying nothing

So what are the real facts and what accusations strange and absurd and ridiculous in some respects? I think the accusations were quite clear: someone almost died and have to life with permanent brain damage for the rest of his life because he advised doses of MAOi that are far higher then anything he advised.

So what doses of harmalas are considered safe and normal and which dose did he advised?

Ok so hearby you declare that DMT-Nexus was wrong and Tregar/69Ron was right? So what dose is considered safe again ?

I only warn "young" people to distinguish between facts and nonsense and indulge in experiments which are at best experimental non-verified and worst cause permanent damage.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101881

 
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Oh my god, I feel so stupid.

Only reading a few Neuroborean’s Posts and it is so obvious he is Tregar/69Ron.

Once you know this troll you see him everwhere. Impossible to miss.

Don’t feed the troll
 
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Jahvisions said:
Neuroborean really, part of bluelight crew? Are you 69Ron and Tregar too?

Still taking pictures and posting of young naked girls in the waterpark? It seems to me that DMT-Nexus is doing a better job then Bluelight.

1. I see a two persons or one who write almost a complete book in every reply, then repeating it over and over again.
2. Bufetonine is the best psychedelic, sure. I can go on and on it's not worth my time, don't feed trolls.

3. It seems intelligent, but it's full of his special derivates, and claims which seems pseudo-scientific to me, or have you or someone reproduced and verified any of it?
4. When the Nook dissappeared they definitly became the most respected authorithy on cactus and extractions and DMT and 5-MeO-DMT and extractions and they seem quite scientific and capable to me to distinguish facts from bullshit. So clarify and prove me wrong instead of saying nothing

So what are the real facts and what accusations strange and absurd and ridiculous in some respects? I think the accusations were quite clear: someone almost died and have to life with permanent brain damage for the rest of his life because he advised doses of MAOi that are far higher then anything he advised.

So what doses of harmalas are considered safe and normal and which dose did he advised?

Ok so hearby you declare that DMT-Nexus was wrong and Tregar/69Ron was right? So what dose is considered safe again ?

I only warn "young" people to distinguish between facts and nonsense and indulge in experiments which are at best experimental non-verified and worst cause permanent damage.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101881

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Are you going nuts? I do respect 69ron's work because I tested myself some thing worked for me some other didn't but I consider that what happent with/against him was very childish and created a sense of distrust about dmt-nexus, I just can't take them seriously enough, considering what we actually knew about 69ron work, I'm not the only one who thinks he was an intelligent guy who was a real psychonaut, if you dislike or feel distrust against his work it's ok, but thinking I'm tregar/69ron it's just paranoid. There's some people here who even saw photos of myself, I don't even live in the USA, I'm from Spain. I don't like paranoid accusations, to be honest. I do think some of 69ron's work was on point, at least, I didn't try everything nor I tried everything at least 3 times (minimum not to consider something placebo, according to my standards.
 
Jahvisions said:
Oh my god, I feel so stupid.

Only reading a few Neuroborean’s Posts and it is so obvious he is Tregar/69Ron.

Once you know this troll you see him everwhere. Impossible to miss.

Don’t feed the troll
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Seriously, you are acting like a madman, if I were you I would erase those comments...
several people who I spoke with during my years here can tell you that I'm around 30 (36) and and I'm not from USA, I don't know anyone in the USA personally nor I don't know about 69ron more than the average (invested( psychonaut. I don't even know what are you talking about the Nook. If you think the calamus extraction it's fake and bs, just try yourself as I did.
 
I always loved this stuff as well, used to chew it for a mild sort of psychedelic adjacent stimulation feeling plus felt like it made my breathing deeper or like, dilated my lungs or something, kind of hard to explain that part of the effect actually. Felt mild but also didn't feel like a placebo like the other mild herbs I had tried.
 
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GooberDoober said:
I always loved this stuff as well, used to chew it for a mild sort of psychedelic adjacent stimulation feeling plus felt like it made my breathing deeper or like, dilated my lungs or something, kind of hard to explain that part of the effect actually. Felt mild but also didn't feel like a placebo like the other mild herbs I had tried.
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Ephedrine, amphetamine, methamphetamine and anything else that enhances norepinephrine induces a similar "bigger lungs" type of feeling. Acorus however induces it with a specific intensity that's tough to beat. When pushed or used after coming down from another psychedelic, Acorus trips can be quite intense and fascinating my experience, but the carcinogenic qualities lead me to only use Acorus sparsely. "A mild sort of psychedelic adjacent stimulation" is a perfect way to put this plant!
 
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