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This is weird. The argument about the CEPS forum's arguments degenerating into pissing matches has degenerated into a pissing match. It's like a Russian Doll.
(runs for cover)
 
someguyontheinternet said:
If someone made a reference to this as something they hold dear, what would you think?
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See this is what I'm talking about. You want me to cast a judgement, just like you guys do, by taking only the surface level appearance of something. I have no idea what the context was, what she said, what others were saying, or even the thread context itself. I have no idea about the context or history of the wiki reference you've made either, so I can't connect it accurately even if I wanted to.

And even if what you're insinuating is true in the final analysis, personally I don't see that is any more loopy than some of the political philosophy held by other members of this forum on the opposite end of the political spectrum. So long as people are not openly and explicitly calling for killing others or what have you, so what? Let them post their loopy ideas and then try to light up the contradictions and fallacies etc.

Remember the 'CEO shot' thread? - "let him who is without sin cast the first stone". Many users here, and many people in the wider population, were all but glorifying the outcome of that.. trying to rationalize it through the lens of their particular political worldview as somewhat acceptable in this corrupt world but then downplaying their blood lust in an attempt to remain onside and moral. Duplicitous. Double standards. @Mr. Krinkle was right to call you all out for that.

I don't think you guys realize how much your own political worldview is blinding you.
 
Thus isn't funny. I'm sad. It will work out. Sorry that I am so sad.
And I am sorry that I am so well ... I'm am a Sorry. So sorry that I have'
to be so sorry.

We have to stop laughing at some point.

I'm just really upset and crushed right now. Too upset to even take a '
benzo. It's okay we all make mistakes and or it goes too far.

We will all get it together soon. I am sure everybody can.

In the meantime I am not laughing anymore and I am genuinely sad too.

Very very.

Good Night. I wish everyone to sleep well and always take care.

Bad days do happen. I'm sorry that I got to be so sorry. Sincerely.


I dislike to see everyone so upset.

( maybe this can get deleted too, so i don't have to look so sorry. 😉😉 but really. )
not an easy task anywhere.
 
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See this is what I'm talking about. You want me to cast a judgement, just like you guys do, by taking only the surface level appearance of something. I have no idea what the context was, what she said, what others were saying, or even the thread context itself. I have no idea about the context or history of the wiki reference you've made either, so I can't connect it accurately even if I wanted to.

And even if what you're insinuating is true in the final analysis, personally I don't see that is any more loopy than some of the political philosophy held by other members of this forum on the opposite end of the political spectrum. So long as people are not openly and explicitly calling for killing others or what have you, so what? Let them post their loopy ideas and then try to light up the contradictions and fallacies etc.

Remember the 'CEO shot' thread? - "let him who is without sin cast the first stone". Many users here, and many people in the wider population, were all but glorifying the outcome of that.. trying to rationalize it through the lens of their particular political worldview as somewhat acceptable in this corrupt world but then downplaying their blood lust in an attempt to remain onside and moral. Duplicitous. Double standards. @Mr. Krinkle was right to call you all out for that.

I don't think you guys realize how much your own political worldview is blinding you.
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So it isn't enough for you if someone were to come along and say "I want to make the future better for all white children
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See this is what I'm talking about. You want me to cast a judgement, just like you guys do, by taking only the surface level appearance of something. I have no idea what the context was, what she said, what others were saying, or even the thread context itself. I have no idea about the context or history of the wiki reference you've made either, so I can't connect it accurately even if I wanted to.

And even if what you're insinuating is true in the final analysis, personally I don't see that is any more loopy than some of the political philosophy held by other members of this forum on the opposite end of the political spectrum. So long as people are not openly and explicitly calling for killing others or what have you, so what? Let them post their loopy ideas and then try to light up the contradictions and fallacies etc.

Remember the 'CEO shot' thread? - "let him who is without sin cast the first stone". Many users here, and many people in the wider population, were all but glorifying the outcome of that.. trying to rationalize it through the lens of their particular political worldview as somewhat acceptable in this corrupt world but then downplaying their blood lust in an attempt to remain onside and moral. Duplicitous. Double standards. @Mr. Krinkle was right to call you all out for that.

I don't think you guys realize how much your own political worldview is blinding you.
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I didn't say anything about any user in particular. I laid out a specific context and asked a question, simple as that
 
That's not what this is supposed to be here for anyway. It's about benzo's and addiction and tolerance or dependence

and doping and doses and getting through that kind of thing. It was never meant to be vicious I am sure.

Thanks. Bye . It's fine. Stay on focus and it's alright. There is just always so much going on. Take care of yourself

and look out for others as well. Tomorrow will be better.
 
regarding the question about why discord is allowed a politics section, i took a look at that today.

discord doesn't have a politics section as such, rather a "controversial-topics' channel in their "other channels" section. politics is discussed. the channel does, for example, have a "US Politics General Discussion Thread".

that thread has had one post today. the previous post was 5 days ago.

i do not have experience of that channel but i canvassed opinion and the consensus seems to be that the channel does not require much moderation due to its gatekept nature.

given the zeitgeist and the low traffic. i don't think there's a parallel in this case.

alasdair
 
Thought this is relevant.

There is no pay wall, just close out the first screen if your not interested in contributing and you get to the episode.

www.thisamericanlife.org

Museum of Now - This American Life

Artifacts and exhibits of this particular moment we are living through.
www.thisamericanlife.org www.thisamericanlife.org

Crazy times and fear can manipulate targeted change.. I just listened to that episode this morning and it fucked with me pretty hard for half the day.



In conclusion... if you fold to a political correctness agenda, then you are submitting to being manipulated and held to it.. period.

Bluelights rich freethinking history is the reason the drug taking stigma has been successfully countered? Or does it stem from.. those drug takers must be alright as they are politically correct or barring that they chose to be politically censured.

I really have reservations that our forum is so sensitive and scared we are rolling this way. Personally I have been through so much, so post me whiskey and piss in the skim milk.. where has skim milk got anybody.

Ban political discussion because it causes controversy.. because it isn't the forums focus? Because allowing it creates fear .. maybe let it role because there seems to be a really significant global social struggle going down with world changing political dynamics.

Idk thats not the spirit of the bluelight? I stumbled across her (BL) so many years ago and was initially terrified to post.. I mean these insane people are posting about all kinds of drugs and like using them.


I know everything evolves and developes.. just really never want to museum the long held bluelight uniqueness of being able to express your views as long as they adhere to the BLUA.
 
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Boogie Down Productions is made up of teachers/The lecture is conducted from the mic into the speaker…


…Who gets weaker: the king or the teacher?/

It’s not about a salary, it’s all about reality

Teachers teach and do the world good/Kings just rule and most are never understood/If you were to rule or govern a certain industry/All inside this room right now would be in misery/No one would get along/Nor sing a song/Cause everyone’d be singing for the king/

Am I wrong?
 
alasdairm said:
regarding the question about why discord is allowed a politics section, i took a look at that today.

discord doesn't have a politics section as such, rather a "controversial-topics' channel in their "other channels" section. politics is discussed. the channel does, for example, have a "US Politics General Discussion Thread".

that thread has had one post today. the previous post was 5 days ago.

i do not have experience of that channel but i canvassed opinion and the consensus seems to be that the channel does not require much moderation due to its gatekept nature.

given the zeitgeist and the low traffic. i don't think there's a parallel in this case.

alasdair
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Really?

It's not a "politics section"... it's just a controversial topics section where they talk about politics.
One thread in the section is slow, therefore there are no parallels.

Here is the parallel:
They have a dedicated space where people who opt in can talk about politics.
We don't.

It's either counter to our mission or it isn't. How much traffic it gets isn't relevant in that regard.

Using too much traffic as an argument against the forum is certainly new. Usually we're the ones described as the dying platform. Now we're booming so much we can't scrape together enough staff to mod one forum? Hey, I'll mod it for you. I have tons of experience.
 
It's not the forum's focus but it sure is a focus in the forum.

It sure is fun little ol interesting and a nice little place to be and to try to

understand what we are dealing with as well, place to be.

Okay now am i in trouble.

This isn't really making sense anymore. And probably a reason

that it doesn't.

... Yeh. To the bunker. waves goodbye. I can't comment like this.

It is. It was and most likely too confusing.

Oh. Behave. just once. just kidding. Freedom, Ya'll.

Oh and i don't feel safe in here anymore. It's okay it's not Ya'll

it just me and what is inside. Lol. Ugh. This can give me night terrors.

So I can't be in here. It will calm down. you'll see. it'll be fine.

Hmm. I feel so ... cut off. I'm sorry. Who needs politics anyway.

Dumb me down. I just don't know. Not all comments are perfect.

So put the forum back anytime .... or not.

No, but are we being serious !!!!!! This is terrible stress.

Here nor there it's just not a good place anymore. That was some real

building empire. Poof gone. Bring it back when we are ready ?

k bye. I don't understand English apparently. Too much.
 
How much of this forum chaos is about the Israel Palestine thing?
 
someguyontheinternet said:
So it isn't enough for you if someone were to come along and say "I want to make the future better for all white children
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someguyontheinternet said:
I laid out a specific context and asked a question, simple as that
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Please stop doing this. You can not cherry pick individual parts of posts that necessarily have a broader context and use that as a basis for argument. This is what news organisations and media hacks do, taking snippets of language to try hemming in an opponent and shoehorning the debate. It's disingenuous, so please stop it.

I don't know what the context of that quote was and she's not here to debate with, and I'm not going to dance with you instead.
 
neversickanymore said:
In conclusion... if you fold to a political correctness agenda, then you are submitting to being manipulated and held to it.. period.
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neversickanymore said:
Ban political discussion because it causes controversy.. because it isn't the forums focus? Because allowing it creates fear .. maybe let it role because there seems to be a really significant global social struggle going down with world changing political dynamics.
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These types of people, who now dominate the mod team, will be the first to whine when their utopia manifests in the real world.. and they realize it's not what they thought it would be. They'll find themselves surrounded by those higher up the political food chain who also similarly thought they could be the devils right hand man so to speak, but were discarded too once they outlived their usefulness.

It's so short sighted. Which is the real issue here.. these people lack a lot of self-awareness. Which I've tried to highlight by pointing out their own behaviour and role in submerging CEPs in unnecessary tension.
 
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