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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 10

foodcrisis said:
marijuana can exacerbate underlying psychosis or conditions whatever you'd say... i think with it being illegal when people with underlying mental health issues and even some healthy people can start doing illegal stuff they can start to loose it... even with marijuana being legal, i think it can bring out psychosis.

for people in a thread that have all had issues being institutionalized and drugged, i don't think recommending cannabis is really the best option... usually people that are forced into treatment have some issues. i know this thread is full of people claiming to be gaslit by their parents and what not, but how can you believe that. some of the people in this thread have even claimed that cannabis is why they were drugged and they aren't going to use and that's okay now.. i'm not saying suicidal people shouldn't try cannabis as an option. i get how people in this thread feel, but don't think it's impossible to start having thoughts that aren't necessarily what's going on in reality.

i'm not saying cannabis is definitely going to cause psychosis even for people with underlying issues and i believe it can even help some people with issues, but negative stuff can happen to people psychologically from cannabis... if you do a search on any search engine about cannabis and psychosis, you'll read that it happens.. if you read reddit, you'll hear people talk about it... supposedly you have to have underlying issues, but some people only experience going crazy when they take drugs.
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Ive just never seen anyone go psychotic from weed and almost everyone i know smokes it. When i went psychotic and had cotards i was completely sober

fenec said:
Is it legal in your country? Here it's illegal
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It's legal here ya
 
paranoid android said:
Ive just never seen anyone go psychotic from weed and almost everyone i know smokes it. When i went psychotic and had cotards i was completely sober



It's legal here ya
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yeah.. i can respect that as an observation.

i think it's kind of hard to pin point it's weed that exactly causes the psychosis too cause people just expect that they are gonna freak out cause of drugs sometimes... like i have a friend with schzizophrenia that thought he took lsd that didn't have anything on the tab. he was claiming that the walls were melting and i tend to believe him cause he cries and stuff.... so i mean, in a situation like that it's proof that it's all in a person's head and not actually a chemical reaction cause of the drug... but it's not like people don't smoke weed and then need to be admitted to the psychward and stuff.

i just want to be cautious and don't want to get anybody to under estimate what weed can do... personally i smoke it all the time with schizophrenia. even when i don't have a tolerance, i don't get too paranoid but i can feel how it could be unsettling for some people personally.. it's just fucking weird and weird thoughts can go along with that ime. can be disorienting and what not if a person isn't used to it.
 
foodcrisis said:
yeah.. i can respect that as an observation.

i think it's kind of hard to pin point it's weed that exactly causes the psychosis too cause people just expect that they are gonna freak out cause of drugs sometimes... like i have a friend with schzizophrenia that thought he took lsd that didn't have anything on the tab. he was claiming that the walls were melting and i tend to believe him cause he cries and stuff.... so i mean, in a situation like that it's proof that it's all in a person's head and not actually a chemical reaction cause of the drug... but it's not like people don't smoke weed and then need to be admitted to the psychward and stuff.

i just want to be cautious and don't want to get anybody to under estimate what weed can do... personally i smoke it all the time with schizophrenia. even when i don't have a tolerance, i don't get too paranoid but i can feel how it could be unsettling for some people personally.. it's just fucking weird and weird thoughts can go along with that ime. can be disorienting and what not if a person isn't used to it.
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The thoughts are so annoying and frustrating.. That was my experience last time I. Smoked.. It was a bit like "fuck this" and this intrusion.
 
LuiBliss said:
I went on a rollercoaster ride when I smoked some of that ganja. I haven't done it since even though I have a buttload left, I bought an ounce.. But I'm a happy camper and I don't need substance for anything.. But anyhoo here's a video with my take on it that time I smoked.

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Well, I'd try to take it really slow, I think I'd drink alcohol on occasion sooner than smoking because what it does to you, I feel like it does to me when I smoke.
 
fenec said:
Well, I'd try to take it really slow, I think I'd drink alcohol on occasion sooner than smoking because what it does to you, I feel like it does to me when I smoke.
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I really enjoy virgin cocktails when I go the bar and socialize. At home I enjoy drinking non-alcoholic beverages. I enjoy exotic drinks like smoothies and milkshakes and stuff too on a regular basis. So I don't need to change anything nor indulge. Things are great the way they are 🙂
 
LuiBliss said:
I really enjoy virgin cocktails when I go the bar and socialize. At home I enjoy drinking non-alcoholic beverages. I enjoy exotic drinks like smoothies and milkshakes and stuff too on a regular basis. So I don't need to change anything nor indulge. Things are great the way they are 🙂
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Yes after I think it should remain occasional, before I smoked too much in real must smoke when you're happy in a good mood not when you're a little unwell
 
fenec said:
Yes after I think it should remain occasional, before I smoked too much in real must smoke when you're happy in a good mood not when you're a little unwell
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Sorry the translator is not great
 
fenec said:
Yes exactly, if I refume I would put mini flower heads since it's been a long time since I smoked I think it will have its effect and I grow myself right now in guerrilla mode I will put natural fertilizer like manure ́ortie no chemical fertilizer.
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Yeah i disagree with @paranoid android. Ganja is medicine but the society destroyed IT and from high cbd and natural levels of thc they made ultra psychoactive plant which can put people to psychosis. That's why i always use good weed and maybe will try to grow on my own some. Natural organic good levels of thc is heaven weed haha. Helped me a lot to recover
 
foodcrisis said:
marijuana can exacerbate underlying psychosis or conditions whatever you'd say... i think with it being illegal when people with underlying mental health issues and even some healthy people can start doing illegal stuff they can start to loose it... even with marijuana being legal, i think it can bring out psychosis.

for people in a thread that have all had issues being institutionalized and drugged, i don't think recommending cannabis is really the best option... usually people that are forced into treatment have some issues. i know this thread is full of people claiming to be gaslit by their parents and what not, but how can you believe that. some of the people in this thread have even claimed that cannabis is why they were drugged and they aren't going to use and that's okay now.. i'm not saying suicidal people shouldn't try cannabis as an option. i get how people in this thread feel, but don't think it's impossible to start having thoughts that aren't necessarily what's going on in reality.

i'm not saying cannabis is definitely going to cause psychosis even for people with underlying issues and i believe it can even help some people with issues, but negative stuff can happen to people psychologically from cannabis... if you do a search on any search engine about cannabis and psychosis, you'll read that it happens.. if you read reddit, you'll hear people talk about it... supposedly you have to have underlying issues, but some people only experience going crazy when they take drugs.
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Bro they sell 100 mcg THC edibles in USA. This is legit dangerous for people with mental isssues. 5 mcg edible is enough to give me strong high. 20 mcg would make me psychotic so imagine 100mcg weed cookie. Ganja is a medicine but used correctly. They made IT too psychoactive imo
 
How do you move forward with your life when you feel like you’ve lost everything? No ability to cope. No enjoyment from anything. It’s like the very core of my being has been removed from my body
 
rawbanana said:
How do you move forward with your life when you feel like you’ve lost everything? No ability to cope. No enjoyment from anything. It’s like the very core of my being has been removed from my body
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You can't move forward really, it's like being stuck in a waiting room at a doctor's office for a long time. It's just a matter of waiting and doing whatever you can to recover quicker (exercise, supplements, st Johns wort, psilocybin)
 
folks i had 10 invega injections and 3 haldol and its been 14 months since my last injection and 0% recovery. I didnt have trinza just sustennas and reality is recovery is looking very glim for me. maybe 2 years if im lucky maybe 4 maybe 7 years or maybe its permanent who fookin knows.
 
rawbanana said:
How do you move forward with your life when you feel like you’ve lost everything? No ability to cope. No enjoyment from anything. It’s like the very core of my being has been removed from my body
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I think I was pretty weird with the way I tried to get back into things right away. I was 28, I felt like I was on my last chance at the life I wanted, so I started a painting after a month had passed. I didn't have anhedonia as bad as some people do. I would've been completely normal if I didn't take the damn Prozac. I'm mostly normal now though, just missing that 20%. I was just determined to not let anything stop me. I struggled with chronic pain for years and years and I lived with it until I had days where I couldn't walk and I was so tired. I was assured I would be normal again but this place shook my confidence I thought I had to take something to recover better. PSSD on top of invega is worse than just invega and I'm lucky to be alive.

Just find that dogged determination within yourself.
 
TonyTonyChopper said:
folks i had 10 invega injections and 3 haldol and its been 14 months since my last injection and 0% recovery. I didnt have trinza just sustennas and reality is recovery is looking very glim for me. maybe 2 years if im lucky maybe 4 maybe 7 years or maybe its permanent who fookin knows.
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this sounds very upsetting… hope is leaving me a bit by bit everyday
 
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