it reads a lot like that's exactly what you're doing.
i've read this 4 times and have no idea what you're talking about.
maybe i don't even need to be here for my side of this discussion?
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Russel Brand... your thoughts?
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it reads a lot like that's exactly what you're doing.
i've read this 4 times and have no idea what you're talking about.
maybe i don't even need to be here for my side of this discussion?
alasdair
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It's pretty much proven that Rolf molested very young children, at least as young as 12, and that Saville did just as bad including fucking dead bodies.
Do we have any evidence that was Brand anything other than a bit of a fanny rat? If you want to have sex with an adult, you're going to have to hit on them, that's how people procreate. I'm sure he did it in a clumsy way on occasion, but hardly the end of the world
For openness, Brand is now a grifter who sells magic crystals so I'm not his biggest fan
Do we have any evidence that was Brand anything other than a bit of a fanny rat? If you want to have sex with an adult, you're going to have to hit on them, that's how people procreate. I'm sure he did it in a clumsy way on occasion, but hardly the end of the world
For openness, Brand is now a grifter who sells magic crystals so I'm not his biggest fan
The case in Hollywood with Blake lively and Ryan Reynolds in a twisted case of false claims of sexual harassment and that an innocent actor and director Justin Baldoni. It is all over YouTube just look or not. I am comparing her false claims and everyone in Hollywood canceling him; until he brought the reciepts aka 168 pages of emails and texts and is counter suing. I was talking about women and false claims.it reads a lot like that's exactly what you're doing.
i've read this 4 times and have no idea what you're talking about.
maybe i don't even need to be here for my side of this discussion?
alasdair
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If people aren't aware of the UK process of law, they may not sppreciate just how slow it can be.
It appears that the police were only involved in Septemer 2023 and with the historic nature of the allegations, may potentially have needed to interview a large number of people. That done they pass the evidence they have to the CPS who themselves would then have to review all of the evidence before deciding if the case fulfils two criteria:
-There is a reaonable chance of a prosecution succeeding
-That a prosecution is in the public interest
The latter of those two criteria have always concerned me and sadly, is typical of how UK law works. A very vague concept that is entirely subjective.
I submit the above document purely to make people aware of the scale of investigation that may have been involved. To be clear, the document does not assert guilt.
It appears that the police were only involved in Septemer 2023 and with the historic nature of the allegations, may potentially have needed to interview a large number of people. That done they pass the evidence they have to the CPS who themselves would then have to review all of the evidence before deciding if the case fulfils two criteria:
-There is a reaonable chance of a prosecution succeeding
-That a prosecution is in the public interest
The latter of those two criteria have always concerned me and sadly, is typical of how UK law works. A very vague concept that is entirely subjective.
I submit the above document purely to make people aware of the scale of investigation that may have been involved. To be clear, the document does not assert guilt.
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He's always been a Marmite character though, and no stranger to controversy. In fact he has seemed to go out of his way to be controversial.
Not long after 9/11 he played a prank dressing up as Bin Laden, which caused him to be "cancelled" and dropped from mainstream broadcasting for some time.
Then after some time he made a come back, and then there was that thing where he and Jonathan Ross made some prank phone call to Andrew Sachs, (Manuel from Faulty Towers,) live on air on BBC Radio 2, IIRC, about something to do with his daughter or grand daughter, which caused Sachs a great deal of upset and distress. Brand was fired once again IIRC.
He seems like a cockroach though, in terms of how indestructable he is. He always seems to find some way of making a come back or of re-inventing himself.
The de-monetisation of his You Tube channels following the allegations definitely hit him hard though. So much so that he used another platform instead and resorted to asking for donations etc from his fans and followers. Even if he is totally innocent, that was one move that reduced my respect for him. He still lives in luxury in a beautiful luxurious property, with a back garden backing on to a picturesque part of the river Thames IIRC. It's not as if he's stone cold broke.
He could easily sell up and down size to something more modest if he's really struggling for money. Asking his fans for donations to sustain his lavish lifestyle didn't go down well with me. I'm generally not a judgemental person, but that really quite rubbed me up the wrong way. Of course none of us is perfect and we all have our lapses in judgement, and I'm still open minded about him overall.
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I can’t stand the cunt. Hope he gets lifed off after being outed as a nonce.
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The inconsitancy I noted is that when you read the list of Russell Brand's assets, he's almost the last person who would benefit from a revolution.
So while I wasn't against my son reading the book, both of us were keen to see it as a stepping stone to better philosophy - or, to be fair, ALL philosophy. I would argue that at the very least someone should read Bertrand Russell's epic 'A History of Western Philosophy' which, while imperfect, does at least provide a bottom up approach.
Whoever described Russell Brand as 'thesaurus enthusiast' hit the nail on the head. Yes, sometimes there is a need for a very specific word, but from George Orwell to Ernest Hemmingway, good writers tend to agree that it's better to use a simple word wherever possible. To indulge in the overuse of uncommon words may be viewed differently in the US. In the UK people will tend to assume that circumlocution is just a way of deflecting from the fact that at base, a person doesn't really know what they are talking about.
I watched the Paxman/Brand interview and as someone noted 'Well, it was hardly Frost/Nixon, was it? More like a monkey throwing it's own excrement at a foghorn'.
To be fair to Paxman, he quickly decided to just give the airtime to Russell Brand on the basis that people could judge based on his own words. I think that was a good decision.
So while I wasn't against my son reading the book, both of us were keen to see it as a stepping stone to better philosophy - or, to be fair, ALL philosophy. I would argue that at the very least someone should read Bertrand Russell's epic 'A History of Western Philosophy' which, while imperfect, does at least provide a bottom up approach.
Whoever described Russell Brand as 'thesaurus enthusiast' hit the nail on the head. Yes, sometimes there is a need for a very specific word, but from George Orwell to Ernest Hemmingway, good writers tend to agree that it's better to use a simple word wherever possible. To indulge in the overuse of uncommon words may be viewed differently in the US. In the UK people will tend to assume that circumlocution is just a way of deflecting from the fact that at base, a person doesn't really know what they are talking about.
I watched the Paxman/Brand interview and as someone noted 'Well, it was hardly Frost/Nixon, was it? More like a monkey throwing it's own excrement at a foghorn'.
To be fair to Paxman, he quickly decided to just give the airtime to Russell Brand on the basis that people could judge based on his own words. I think that was a good decision.
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alasdair
This may be before my time (well no I was in secondary school but it was before I'd heard of Russel Brand).
But this i remember well it was a huge hoohah all over the papers it nearly ended both of their careers. Probably should have done as they were tormenting an old man for lols but both of them managed to bounce back somehow. The universal condemnation was surprising at the time, but welcome.
It doesn't seem like that long ago but you really could get away with a lot more back then (early to mid 2000s) without anyone batting an eyelid. Less social media I guess, news spreads much faster nowadays.
Heh, I have a friend who absolutely despises Russel Brand for this very reason.
99% of the most well known actors/actresses are gender inverted, its a must to thrive in the big screen. It's a secret good %1-3 of the population id estimate, they're satan worshippers in disguise. They worship Baphomet, Baal and Lucifer. It sounds a bit crazy but it is true. If u check the anatomy of all the people in hollywood ull see a pattern start to appear mastectomy scars, short t Rex arms, curvy hips, female gait, etc.
It's all of them.
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How do you know?
That's quite the claim mate with all due respect - you sure of that? 99%?
How do you know?
I can't stand this guy no matter what his politics or beliefs but I don't Like the idea of a person being able to be charged a quarter century to 2 decades after an " alleged sexual misconduct or rape" I would even stick up for someone who I depise worse but LA's DA dropped the charges. Also I can't stand Danny Masterson but the time difference and then him getting life is nonsense.
Unlike people on the left I will stick up for those I don't like if there is a ridiculous law or something as absurd as this long a time and trying to charge him. And if the proof is she said and the rich guy he said: I it is a money grabbing. This has happened before but usually they throw it out. But I bet if he or whatever Russel is or was or thinks it is: should not be tried. Usually there are statue of limitations in these cases. Except for murder.
The feminists want the power to make false accusations any time they want. To destroy a man or whatever 'Russel' is anytime they want. I could care less but it is a principal. In fact I bitched to others that this mindless windbag shouldn't be let into our country after some assault charges or something years ago.
Alastair this has nothing to do with politics, you are incapable of anything other than believing that. I have no idea how some one can be so blatantly narrow minded. I would even stick up for Sean Penn, in this situation, so stop making a fool of yourself and always labeling it political and yes I know why you went with the right wing bs because of me and you couldn't muster up the words or thought to debate me so you throw this out there.
I was going to stick up for someone I despise Marylin 'Brian Warner ' Manson (alleged sexual misconduct with ex girlfriend 2009-2011) but the the charges were dropped? when I checked. And M.M. is probably is guilty. But when someone can just out of the blue over a decade or more; I am calling bs and they should have gone to the police before this like years or a decade or more in some cases. Hold it, why was M.M. charges dropped and Danny Masterson's not? It is LA and the allegations are older. Do I really care what happens to that liberal Scientologist, no but the principle of the matter and the threat of false allegations. Where is the proof and why did it take so long?
But still the main thing is the time it took to bring these allegations and statue of limitations were obviously ignored in Danny Masterson case. Oh well, but still it is a slippery slope.
Yeah well I call Bullshit on this and your ridiculous notion. No one on right wants this freak and idiot on there side. Especially me!!!!!!!!!!!
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i'll assume you're referring to me?
who's always labeling it polititcal?
alasdair
How dare you make light of Jnowhere's grievances. The left took muh job, muh truck, and muh freedumbs!!! You're one of dem disgusting leftys!!!
How come?
Just for the sake of argument let's assume that Russel Brand is guilty of everything he's being accused of and that his guilt can be proven beyond all reasonable doubt.
Assuming that were the case, and I'm not saying it is but if it were, would he not deserve to be held accountable for his crimes regardless of when they were committed?
guilty as charged. some people really don't like what they see when the mirror is held up...
alasdair
I can't stand this guy no matter what his politics or beliefs but I don't Like the idea of a person being able to a quarter century to 2 decades after an " alleged" event I would even stick up for someone who I depise worse but LA's DA dropped the charges. Also I can't stand Danny Masterson but the time difference and then him getting life is nonsense.
Unlike people on the left I will stick up for those I don't like if there is a ridiculous law or something as absurd as this long a time and trying to charge him. And if the proof is she said and the rich guy he said: I it is a money grabbing. This has happened before but usually they throw it out. But I bet if he or whatever Russel is or was or thinks it is: should not be tried. Usually there are statue of limitations in these cases. Except for murder.
The feminists want the power to make false accusations any time they want. To destroy a man or whatever 'Russel' is anytime they want. I could care less but it is a principal. In fact I bitched to others that this winding shouldn't be let into our country after some assault charges or something years ago.
Alastair this has nothing politics, you are incapable of anything other than believing that. I have no idea how some one can be so blatantly narrow minded. I would even stick up for Sean Penn, in this situation, so stop making a foul of yourself and always labeling it political and yes I know why you went with the right wing bs because of me and you couldn't muster up the words or thought to debate me so you throw this out there.
Yeah well I call Bullshit on this and your ridiculous notion. No one on right wants this freak and idiot on there side. Especially me!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, but the principle of it and I don't see there being evidence. IDK, shoot him and send him back to Not so jolly old England in a body bag. I am joking but, honestly I could care less.
I can't stand the guy but I believe it is ridiculous to charge someone 20 to 25 years later. Unless it is a murder. Every place seems to have a statute of limitations and I really see this as something that can be exploited by the government to help to clear there name of past incompetence.
I heard on a tv show along time ago that there have been all sorts of bs claims made against so many famous guys that were hushed up and the police realized they were bs and also kept it quiet.
Many times over the decades people who are famous with money have to hire P.I.' s and lawyers to disprove these things and keep it quiet because even bs allegations can be damaging and honestly, I don't care. Fine shoot him.lol But don't make it so that because the police in The U.K.; who are morons and can't get anything right, that now we are going after this one asswipe because we don't wanna look stupid after all the other celebrities who are accused of even worse. Jimmy Saville did unspeakable things to little boys for decades. Wasn't their a UK prime minister who was also a predatory perve? They have proven even worse.
What about the rape gangs out and about in the U.K.. Why are the police doing little to nothing and the government is trying to cover it up.
Why is that.
What it is about these rape gangs that the police will do nothing. What makes the so untouchable. What exactly is it?Who cares that jackass vegan nut job who thinks he is a wellness guru has complaints against him from last century and 2 decades ago.
Screw any statute of limitations; we can occupy the publics mind.
I have a solution; drop the charges and hang him on general principle.
Just kidding but I smell, a big lawsuit and honestly IDK. But there has to proof and it has too be in a timely manner, plain and simple.
Nice try but left are the hysterical morons. Just watch lefties losing it on YouTube. They are blowing up Tesla's good no electric cars.