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Dr.Methyl

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Hi everybody,

I am a clandestine chemist and during 10 years I've made plenty of new drugs : first we discussed about the molecule with neuropharmacologist, then I made it, then I tested them on myself until low/medium dose before destroying them in permanganic acid. I've never sold anything, just single test to see the activities and the effects like shulgin did. My goal was the release a PiHKAL-like book with all the molecules beyond phenethylamines and tryptamines including from PCP-like to opioids. but I decided to never publish it because of... RC Companies ! 5 years ago I stopped doing this kind of research on psychoactive but still doing clandesting chemistry to make new anti-cancers synthesis pathway or making new human pheromones.

I hate the RC compagnies because of the complete lack of proffessionnalism not because of the buisness of selling drugs. Did you remember the website "HCl Research" based in Germany how proffessional they were ? They were discrete and shipped only good molecules probably made in germany. But after this time when the new drug "mephedrone" arrived on the market everything broke up into pieces and the full market went completely bullshit. The chinese lab were competing togheter and made impure product at the lowest price possible and send kilograms to hundred of new website (mainly UK-based), then the clubber bought from there and resold the mephedrone at the local parties. Neither the maker nor the website reseller nor the clubbers have any knowledge in chemistry or basic pharmacology, they just want their little bags of drugs. And the chinese knew that and started doing absolute shit.
They sold very impure products ( a batch of 4-MeO-PCP was analyzed and contained 40% cyanide) claiming its 99.9999% just because they know the product will finished on the street and will be never analyzed by the customers. When a drug is banned they made analogue without asking the neuropharmacologist or doctor about eventual toxicity and started selling neurotoxic mephedrone analogues. For exemple they sold a synthetic cannabinoid that will be cleaved to naphtylamine by the liver and any person who has little knowledge in toxicity knows its one of the most potent carcinogen. But they didn't care, they sold "not for human consumption" anyway, the cancers are not their problems.
But at the times there was still a red line to not cross : selling deadly opioids. After a few years the red line was finally crossed and they directly sold fentanyl analogues by kilogram directly to the mafia leading to the well known fentanyl crisis you have seen in the media...

About 10 years ago I was discussing with a russian chemist about making the benzofurane analogue of MDMA. Now they are known as 5-APB and 6-APB but back then I called them "furamphetamines". He want to make the 5-isomer with the oxygen in para but me I prefer to let the oxygen in meta because of PMA toxicity. So we bet who was right. One day he wrote me he won the bet because the molecule is finished and has MDMA activity without the need for N-methylation, he also told me its even better than MDMA. But me , I finished my molecule and test it and YEEEES it is active and MDMA-like ! So I published the molecular structure on my blog along with the bioassays and commentaries.

A few month later I found a website selling what ? Yes, 5-APB AND 6-APB under the fancy name "benzo fury", ours furamphetamines !!I don't try to let beleive I invented the molecule, no because they were already patented, but I was the first to try and explain the activity. So based on our research the companies ordered kilograms to chinese labs and started making huge amount of money with no respect to the molecules. I ordered a sample and analyzed it and it was only 85%, the rest is other isomer and unreatced products... From now I immediatly removed the blog and did not published anything anymore but I kept doing research.

I made and tested a lot of new rings : benzimidazole, benzisoxazoles, and so on. And I find a new ring with MDMA-like qualities but never plublished anything. And guess what ? Today I find the ring on.... Wikipedia ! And with plenty of other rings ! Apparently there are new neuropharmacologist that made new analogues, tested them and published in 2024. I haven't read the pubs yet, but it is question of time for the RC companies to read it and ordering kilograms of new molecules.... I bet its that will happened in 2025.

I thought researchers in universities stop publishing after Ralf Heim discovered bomamines (NBOMes)and RC companies spread them all across the world and killed thousands of people of overdoses due to the unsafty profiles of N-BOMe. By the way, with the help of a friends who works with IA neurologic software, I made new N-alkylated 2C-X with the activity starting at 25 ug ! Way more potent than LSD ! But if I publish the structure it will be completely legal in all the world because not based on N-Benzyl mioety and RC compagnies will sold them again and killing a lot more of people...

Now I am fed up with how the RC market has turned and how the product are sold. It can be easy to start a new website selling controlled molecules analyzed by GC/MS or NMR and selling to intelligent people but no ... money talks....

And who knows what happened to the website "blacklight.in" for advanced drug discussion ???

Thank you for reading,

Dr.Methyl
 
So you have synthesized a new mdma like compound? What is the compound your Russian friend says is better than mdma?
 
Honestly I stil think mdma is better than any of the benzofurans, and I still have a baggie of the 4meo-pcp from back in the day - it has a nice almondy smell. Good thing I knew what that meant.
Truth is, where does your average person get good research chemicals? Sure the vendors were (are?) profit driven, but man did I get to try a lot of amazing substances. Sure there were some shitty ones, and I’ve probably poisoned myself here and there, but I got to try hundreds of different drugs that I used to read about in Pihkal and Tikal, and figured I would never taste. So thanks to all those Online drug dealers, those unscrupulous Dutch and Chinese chemists and research chemical sites. I wish I still had access, but at least I did for a while.
 
Honestly I stil think mdma is better than any of the benzofurans, and I still have a baggie of the 4meo-pcp from back in the day - it has a nice almondy smell. Good thing I knew what that meant.
Truth is, where does your average person get good research chemicals? Sure the vendors were (are?) profit driven, but man did I get to try a lot of amazing substances. Sure there were some shitty ones, and I’ve probably poisoned myself here and there, but I got to try hundreds of different drugs that I used to read about in Pihkal and Tikal, and figured I would never taste. So thanks to all those Online drug dealers, those unscrupulous Dutch and Chinese chemists and research chemical sites. I wish I still had access, but at least I did for a while.
Personally we are huge fans of 6apb and it’s been our go to lately for more of a party mode out at the club or festival. 5mapb+mdma otherwise! Amazing combo
 
Honestly I stil think mdma is better than any of the benzofurans, and I still have a baggie of the 4meo-pcp from back in the day - it has a nice almondy smell. Good thing I knew what that meant.
Truth is, where does your average person get good research chemicals? Sure the vendors were (are?) profit driven, but man did I get to try a lot of amazing substances. Sure there were some shitty ones, and I’ve probably poisoned myself here and there, but I got to try hundreds of different drugs that I used to read about in Pihkal and Tikal, and figured I would never taste. So thanks to all those Online drug dealers, those unscrupulous Dutch and Chinese chemists and research chemical sites. I wish I still had access, but at least I did for a while.
5+6 APB was always ten times better than pure MDMA/5-MAPB for me. Except one time, when I suspect that it was lace with methamphetamine. (I'd love to know the ratio!)
 
Hi everybody,

I am a clandestine chemist and during 10 years I've made plenty of new drugs : first we discussed about the molecule with neuropharmacologist, then I made it, then I tested them on myself until low/medium dose before destroying them in permanganic acid. I've never sold anything, just single test to see the activities and the effects like shulgin did. My goal was the release a PiHKAL-like book with all the molecules beyond phenethylamines and tryptamines including from PCP-like to opioids. but I decided to never publish it because of... RC Companies ! 5 years ago I stopped doing this kind of research on psychoactive but still doing clandesting chemistry to make new anti-cancers synthesis pathway or making new human pheromones.

I hate the RC compagnies because of the complete lack of proffessionnalism not because of the buisness of selling drugs. Did you remember the website "HCl Research" based in Germany how proffessional they were ? They were discrete and shipped only good molecules probably made in germany. But after this time when the new drug "mephedrone" arrived on the market everything broke up into pieces and the full market went completely bullshit. The chinese lab were competing togheter and made impure product at the lowest price possible and send kilograms to hundred of new website (mainly UK-based), then the clubber bought from there and resold the mephedrone at the local parties. Neither the maker nor the website reseller nor the clubbers have any knowledge in chemistry or basic pharmacology, they just want their little bags of drugs. And the chinese knew that and started doing absolute shit.
They sold very impure products ( a batch of 4-MeO-PCP was analyzed and contained 40% cyanide) claiming its 99.9999% just because they know the product will finished on the street and will be never analyzed by the customers. When a drug is banned they made analogue without asking the neuropharmacologist or doctor about eventual toxicity and started selling neurotoxic mephedrone analogues. For exemple they sold a synthetic cannabinoid that will be cleaved to naphtylamine by the liver and any person who has little knowledge in toxicity knows its one of the most potent carcinogen. But they didn't care, they sold "not for human consumption" anyway, the cancers are not their problems.
But at the times there was still a red line to not cross : selling deadly opioids. After a few years the red line was finally crossed and they directly sold fentanyl analogues by kilogram directly to the mafia leading to the well known fentanyl crisis you have seen in the media...

About 10 years ago I was discussing with a russian chemist about making the benzofurane analogue of MDMA. Now they are known as 5-APB and 6-APB but back then I called them "furamphetamines". He want to make the 5-isomer with the oxygen in para but me I prefer to let the oxygen in meta because of PMA toxicity. So we bet who was right. One day he wrote me he won the bet because the molecule is finished and has MDMA activity without the need for N-methylation, he also told me its even better than MDMA. But me , I finished my molecule and test it and YEEEES it is active and MDMA-like ! So I published the molecular structure on my blog along with the bioassays and commentaries.

A few month later I found a website selling what ? Yes, 5-APB AND 6-APB under the fancy name "benzo fury", ours furamphetamines !!I don't try to let beleive I invented the molecule, no because they were already patented, but I was the first to try and explain the activity. So based on our research the companies ordered kilograms to chinese labs and started making huge amount of money with no respect to the molecules. I ordered a sample and analyzed it and it was only 85%, the rest is other isomer and unreatced products... From now I immediatly removed the blog and did not published anything anymore but I kept doing research.

I made and tested a lot of new rings : benzimidazole, benzisoxazoles, and so on. And I find a new ring with MDMA-like qualities but never plublished anything. And guess what ? Today I find the ring on.... Wikipedia ! And with plenty of other rings ! Apparently there are new neuropharmacologist that made new analogues, tested them and published in 2024. I haven't read the pubs yet, but it is question of time for the RC companies to read it and ordering kilograms of new molecules.... I bet its that will happened in 2025.

I thought researchers in universities stop publishing after Ralf Heim discovered bomamines (NBOMes)and RC companies spread them all across the world and killed thousands of people of overdoses due to the unsafty profiles of N-BOMe. By the way, with the help of a friends who works with IA neurologic software, I made new N-alkylated 2C-X with the activity starting at 25 ug ! Way more potent than LSD ! But if I publish the structure it will be completely legal in all the world because not based on N-Benzyl mioety and RC compagnies will sold them again and killing a lot more of people...

Now I am fed up with how the RC market has turned and how the product are sold. It can be easy to start a new website selling controlled molecules analyzed by GC/MS or NMR and selling to intelligent people but no ... money talks....

And who knows what happened to the website "blacklight.in" for advanced drug discussion ???

Thank you for reading,

Dr.Methyl
'Advanced Drug discussion' on Bluelight is renamed too:
Neuroscience and Pharmacology discussion.

Blacklight is unknown to me, but my understanding of both.
To little to have much to add, love to read em.
But in about 20 years, when all drugs are un-demonized. [my fantasy]
Hoping to find your creation s legal, Pharma quality in a store.

That would be a nice happy ending.
 
Maybe some new technology will take over drugs. Like a mind machine but hooked up to a Dodge Viper V-10 running on Zutroy Tunt's Brain Tonic. I'm sure that's exactly how it would work.
 
A website of quality control that has the purity data of all these different RC vendors and dark web vendors would always have been a great harm reduction resource.

That’s nuts about the CN content of 4meoPCP
 
Very clandestine of you to advertise on the internet. Well done sir.

I made new N-alkylated 2C-X with the activity starting at 25 ug
Why people feel the need to lie on the internet to impress complete strangers I will never know.

but I was the first to try and explain the activity
Pretty sure Nichols beat you by a couple decades?

Synthesis and Pharmacological Examination of Benzofuran, Indan, and Tetralin
Analogues of 3,4-( Methy1enedioxy)amphetamine
Aaron P. Monte, Danuta Marona-Lewicka, Nicholas V. Cozzi, and David E. Nichols'
Departments of Medicinal Chemistry and Pharmacognosy and Pharmacology and Toxicology, School of Pharmacy and
Pharmacal Sciences, Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana 47907
Received June 21, 1993

I'm not even going to ask you what "novel" compounds you've discovered.

Personally, I've made 100's of novel psychoactive compounds but I won't provide any evidence or proof beyond my words, because the RC companies will just steal them! (Sarcasm)
 
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doing clandesting chemistry to make new anti-cancers synthesis pathway
How are you clandestinely making new anti cancer drugs? What cell lines are you using (I really hope you aren’t doing in vivo work clandestinely).

Chemistry and biology labs are going to be super different in the equipment. I would be quite surprised if your clandestine lab is set up to do both.
 
The reality is people don't care. If they did we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. I'm just happy I get to taste real drugs from time to time. I'm sure I'm going to get cancer or my liver will fail due to something I did way back when. We took a lot of risks over the years with baggies of powder shipped in from the other side of the world. One of my friends snorted massive amounts of pretty much anything you put in front of him. Liver gave out in his mid-20s. Always suspected it was from some of those later batches of Chinese chemicals because things were starting to get really sketchy by the time I slowed down. But like the other person said I was happy to have access if only for a short time.

I've always held the opinion that all information and knowledge should be free. You're saying you're angry because you published something on the internet then someone else took it and ran with it. Isn't that what you wanted to happen? Sure okay they did a shitty job of it and made a profit off other people's suffering. Some people probably died too. But the same is true of any product. Some of these people out here will figure out a way to kill themselves with anything and they're unwilling to admit when they were screwed over. I got screwed several times over the years. I knew better than to risk my liver over something I bought for $10-$30. I just moved on to the next thing. Plus I've seen people that do and believe in the most retarded shit you can imagine. Like doing and mixing drugs for absolutely no reason that have absolutely no real euphoria but they'll swear up and down they're high as gas. Just look at all the idiots in county jail snorting tylenol and anti-depressants of all things.

Chemicals are old hat now anyway. We're moving on to stimulating the pleasure centers of our brains with machines. A brave new world where everyone gets to lounge around in VR all day being anything they want while feeling like they're on MDMA, cocaine and heroin all at the same time. It will be amazing until the day when so many of us are addicted that there is no one around to keep the power on and the machines in line anymore. I'm sure a bunch of people will forget to log-out to eat and starve or thirst to death. Maybe they'll hook you up with a banana bag for an extra $100 a week so you don't have to take breaks away from your ideal virtual world.

I've still yet to come across something as fun as MDA in that genre of drugs. MDMA is close but not as amazing. The RCs that mimic those two are fun yes and typically less taxing. Oh and you can take them more often. But the novelty with all of them wears off pretty fast if you make them a regular thing.
 
Granted its our own fault, but our politicians should still at least try to protect us as in Fuck the CCP.
 
i think chemistry is eventually gonna run out of new stuff. only so much resources to test and combine. by that time a lot more recreational drugs will probably be legal.

seems kind of like everyone always favors lsd25 compared to all the analogues, or people say they are identical.. i like eth-lad a lot and find it to be different. 1p even always feels different, but i'm unsure if the stuff i got on the streets was real lsd25... i haven't really been reading people's opinions on mdma like RC's and was interested in taking them myself.

@ poster HeadphonesandLSD's comment if that's real (not sure about how they ended that paragraph. lol), i really don't know about stimulating my mind with any type of machine... i'm not gonna feel safe if that comes out any time in my life time.. i'll let other people test that... give me some chemicals... i know science is doing some impressive stuff. what we can do is probably limited though. maybe we can achieve psychedelic effects from machines... does that mean having to be strapped down to something to trip, or having a chip in your head? i think i'm good with that. i wouldn't want to have to lay on a table to trip. i'm good with having shit strapped to my head too. i don't see how that would work... it takes so fucking long to do an MRI. they probably have better technology than that, but stuff they are using in hospitals now seems ancient. it'll be a long time if that stuff can be created for it to come to the public.... even if it gets created, i don't see it replacing chemicals... like if it were a cleaner high, i think there'd still be people that went for the traditional effects of chemicals just to go through the experience.

as far as machine technology being able to keep a person high all the time, i don't think that will happen.. i'm thinking if they could stimulate the brain with machines enough to achieve psychedelic effects that our chemicals in the brain would deplete like most chemical drugs... like maybe they could find some oral form of seratonin or whatever chemical that people constantly eat while hooked up to a machine that constantly keeps them high.. i'd think that would have side effects or even poison a person.... interesting to think what they can do.. but some of this stuff people are claiming is going to happen with technology seems kind of far fetched to me.

for anyone new to BL, i know nothing about science.
 
Hi everybody,

I am a clandestine chemist and during 10 years I've made plenty of new drugs : first we discussed about the molecule with neuropharmacologist, then I made it, then I tested them on myself until low/medium dose before destroying them in permanganic acid. I've never sold anything, just single test to see the activities and the effects like shulgin did. My goal was the release a PiHKAL-like book with all the molecules beyond phenethylamines and tryptamines including from PCP-like to opioids. but I decided to never publish it because of... RC Companies ! 5 years ago I stopped doing this kind of research on psychoactive but still doing clandesting chemistry to make new anti-cancers synthesis pathway or making new human pheromones.

I hate the RC compagnies because of the complete lack of proffessionnalism not because of the buisness of selling drugs. Did you remember the website "HCl Research" based in Germany how proffessional they were ? They were discrete and shipped only good molecules probably made in germany. But after this time when the new drug "mephedrone" arrived on the market everything broke up into pieces and the full market went completely bullshit. The chinese lab were competing togheter and made impure product at the lowest price possible and send kilograms to hundred of new website (mainly UK-based), then the clubber bought from there and resold the mephedrone at the local parties. Neither the maker nor the website reseller nor the clubbers have any knowledge in chemistry or basic pharmacology, they just want their little bags of drugs. And the chinese knew that and started doing absolute shit.
They sold very impure products ( a batch of 4-MeO-PCP was analyzed and contained 40% cyanide) claiming its 99.9999% just because they know the product will finished on the street and will be never analyzed by the customers. When a drug is banned they made analogue without asking the neuropharmacologist or doctor about eventual toxicity and started selling neurotoxic mephedrone analogues. For exemple they sold a synthetic cannabinoid that will be cleaved to naphtylamine by the liver and any person who has little knowledge in toxicity knows its one of the most potent carcinogen. But they didn't care, they sold "not for human consumption" anyway, the cancers are not their problems.
But at the times there was still a red line to not cross : selling deadly opioids. After a few years the red line was finally crossed and they directly sold fentanyl analogues by kilogram directly to the mafia leading to the well known fentanyl crisis you have seen in the media...

About 10 years ago I was discussing with a russian chemist about making the benzofurane analogue of MDMA. Now they are known as 5-APB and 6-APB but back then I called them "furamphetamines". He want to make the 5-isomer with the oxygen in para but me I prefer to let the oxygen in meta because of PMA toxicity. So we bet who was right. One day he wrote me he won the bet because the molecule is finished and has MDMA activity without the need for N-methylation, he also told me its even better than MDMA. But me , I finished my molecule and test it and YEEEES it is active and MDMA-like ! So I published the molecular structure on my blog along with the bioassays and commentaries.

A few month later I found a website selling what ? Yes, 5-APB AND 6-APB under the fancy name "benzo fury", ours furamphetamines !!I don't try to let beleive I invented the molecule, no because they were already patented, but I was the first to try and explain the activity. So based on our research the companies ordered kilograms to chinese labs and started making huge amount of money with no respect to the molecules. I ordered a sample and analyzed it and it was only 85%, the rest is other isomer and unreatced products... From now I immediatly removed the blog and did not published anything anymore but I kept doing research.

I made and tested a lot of new rings : benzimidazole, benzisoxazoles, and so on. And I find a new ring with MDMA-like qualities but never plublished anything. And guess what ? Today I find the ring on.... Wikipedia ! And with plenty of other rings ! Apparently there are new neuropharmacologist that made new analogues, tested them and published in 2024. I haven't read the pubs yet, but it is question of time for the RC companies to read it and ordering kilograms of new molecules.... I bet its that will happened in 2025.

I thought researchers in universities stop publishing after Ralf Heim discovered bomamines (NBOMes)and RC companies spread them all across the world and killed thousands of people of overdoses due to the unsafty profiles of N-BOMe. By the way, with the help of a friends who works with IA neurologic software, I made new N-alkylated 2C-X with the activity starting at 25 ug ! Way more potent than LSD ! But if I publish the structure it will be completely legal in all the world because not based on N-Benzyl mioety and RC compagnies will sold them again and killing a lot more of people...

Now I am fed up with how the RC market has turned and how the product are sold. It can be easy to start a new website selling controlled molecules analyzed by GC/MS or NMR and selling to intelligent people but no ... money talks....

And who knows what happened to the website "blacklight.in" for advanced drug discussion ???

Thank you for reading,

Dr.Methyl

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Nanomachine just holding the receptor open lol.
Just some electrode s on the reward center, has been done with Rat s.

If other centers. With electrodes placed at the spots could replicate,
actual specific drug induced states. i wonder. A remote, with built
in safety control would be beneficial. But can of-course be hacked.
 
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