NBOME and test kits

[DevelopingDasein]

Hi there.

If anyone has access to the popular NBOME series (25i, 25c, 25d, 25b, etc.) + test kits on hands (mandolin, marquis, mecke etc.) could you please post some reactions. It would be good to have these reaction posted somewhere.

I think any little help in identifying these substances will go a long way in harm reduction. I haven't been purchasing blotter because of the great surge of these chemicals in the past year.

I've gotten DOx and 5MEO-amt blotters in the past, but it seemed like there was always way more acid than there was of that stuff. THis past year it seemed like the tables turned. NBOME was everywhere. Not so sure about now. I've seen a few good things come around, but not heavy bulk. Or the bulk of it is sketching me out, and so I'm staying away.


Yeah anyways, I ended up with a sheet of NBOME blotter. I'm curious as to which one it is though. I'm curious to know if the different chemicals produce different reactions, and whether there is a way for me to tell the difference between 25i and 25c. I have some other questionable blotter that I think may be a DOx. I'm curious to know if that blotter would have a different reaction than the NBOMEs.

Thank you!

 

[Jesusgreen]

According to this thread:

25C-NBOMe
Marquis - yellow, slow.
Mecke - brown
Mandellin - yellow, hint of green

25D-NBOMe
Marquis - No reaction
Mecke - brown, maybe a hint of green
Mandellin - yellow

25I-NBOMe (differences from above are partly due to smaller sample size used)
Marquis - No reaction
Mecke - weak brown
Mandellin - weak yellow

 

[Solipsis]

Based on these indications I think differentiating between NBOMe compounds would be asking too much without proper lab analysis, any subtle differences there would be between color reactions would leave open too much to suggestion, or the results might be skewed because of other factors such as reagent freshness, dosage, maybe temperature, etc.

Maybe Marquis testing 25D-NBOMe (or 25E / 25P or another alkylated member for that matter) giving a brownish color is the only kind of distinction because it is not a halogen and the possible spectrum could be a bit different.

Say hypothetically it would be able to tell you that you have 25I-NBOMe with 40% certainty. What good is that going to do you, over just generally being unsure? At worst, telling someone this and giving them a dose or two could make them assume it is 25I for lack of more information, and assumptions are hardly ever good.
(Though I understand your curiosity)

It's pretty much covered in this thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/498199-The-Big-amp-Dandy-Research-Chemicals-on-Blotters-Thread

 

[DevelopingDasein]

Thank you both. I actually did some further searching and was able to locate these threads you speak of, as well as a few others. Thanks for updating and filling me in.

I know what you are saying Solipsis. I just try to keep information about what is going around in my area. With more information people are better off. And while using a test kit cannot always be 100% foolproof, it can help in making a better based assumptions. I noticed that a lot of the results being posted for these chemicals produce inconsistent results. I believe one user posted photos of different batches of 25i that produced different reactions when he tested them. I just think that its better to be able to narrow down the choices of what you think the chemical could possibly be by using a few different test kits.

Ya sometimes assumptions get you in trouble. Be careful people.

 

[Folley]

trying to test one substance from another in the same series with only one reagent is near impossible, but with a full kit it is quite feasible. Say if the marquis is the same color for the two drugs, but the mecke is completely different than it is very possible to test one from another. Tests should usually only be used to CONFIRM your suspicions, though. Say, you buy 25i and you think it is 25i, but you give it a test to be sure that it is 25i and not some other random chemical by mistake.

 

[Solipsis]

Of course you are generally right, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like there is a reagent that offers the key to the differentiation you are talking about (Mecke in your hypothesis).

 

[Enix150]

^It seems you're right about Mecke, it looks like the colors are all roughly between brown and green for NBOMe's/2C's. But what about Froehde's reagent? It seems to have a wide degree of colour differentiation among the 2C's, which might carry over to the NBOMe's as well. With new RC's should come new tests, no? Liebermann reagent could also prove useful.

 

[spiritGlove]

I see by these posts that people became concerned about Nbomes around 2013, not before 2012. in each and every case its because of Reports.
I have 17 Years experience using Nbomes. in that time (2008-20010) I saw people take over 100mg 25I nbome, I took 25mg myself. It was nothing but a great trip. before "Reports" came out, there was no problem. If it really was a killer drug, or a bad one, it wouldn't have become so popular that they gave it notice to begin with. The "Reports" are bullshit, if NBOMES were really so bad, they wouldnt have waited to become popular to become dangerous. They would have been dangerous right off of jump street. Immediately after hitting the streets not 8 years later , then briefly and never again, after making it illegal with all the fake news demonizing Nbomes.
Angle Trumpets are for more powerful and perfectly legal. My point? Angels Trumpets are not popular but they do 1 hell of a job tripping you out.

25I and 25B Nbome have a marquis reaction of Dark Emerald Green

 

[Esperighanto]

The majority of analyzed samples of NBOMes from the past on drugsdata show that many of the samples were mixtures of different NBOMes.

 

[Didgital]

The "Reports" are bullshit

The reports are not bullshit. yes I've seen someone take 17mg sublingually and they were clearly rocked, but otherwise did ok. Most* people would probably be ok.

Then there's the few times I had to wrestle delirious naked people whos eyes were rolled back into their heads (on a single tab) while working security at festivals. Talk about slippery.

Some individuals seem more susceptible to the adverse effects than others. I took a small dose (above allergy test) of an nbome, and i experienced some very alarming physical symptoms that caused me to believe I may be one of the more susceptible individuals, and so I flushed grams (poor fishes). Sad because I had high hopes and dreams of super potent 2c-esque compounds.

Just because a substance is safe for most, does not mean it's safe for all. We all have our own unique biochemistry.