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Zopiclone bandit said:
Mind is blown, this is honestly some of the best stuff I have ever tasted.

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Yeah that's good juice. Copella do an apple and elderflower which is pretty great too.
 
I got into the Cawston Beetroot and apple ones for a while when I was worried about my blood pressure possibly being too high for me to be able get an ADHD stims script. I would have been gutted to have fallen at that hurdle. So I threw everything I could find, and do, at the problem.

The beet juice really does work too! It tastes alright, and feels so healthy. It noteably brings your bp down a notch or 2, within hours too. And the effects last a day or so IIRC.

As I sometimes do, I went over the top and brought like 2 or 3 6 pack multipacks and now half of it untouched and is already 6 months out of date :\ I went on a mad 'must get my blood pressure down' obsession, doing and buying loads of other stuff healthy stuff too, but all that lasted around 10 days. :\ Just long enough to help me pass the medical.

The 'experts' say that short term blood pressure fixes don't work. Sorry but I have to say they do, also benzos significantly reduce bp very quickly, (within half an hour or so) as a pretty useful side effect, depending on the situation. You can also buy BP lowering supplements from health shops and they work, and quickly too.

Of course I take their wider point that long term lifestyle changes like stopping smoking, stopping drinking, losing weight, eating better foods, getting more exercise, blah, blah, blah, are all better long term solutions.

I only mention all of this, because sometimes I've been a bit worried about my heart and BP when taking stims, and maybe others on here have too.
 
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Bleaney said:
The 'experts' say that short term blood pressure fixes don't work. Sorry but I have to say they do, also benzos significantly reduce bp very quickly, (within half an hour or so) as a pretty useful side effect, depending on the situation. You can also buy BP lowering supplements from health shops and they work, and quickly too.

Of course I take their wider point that long term lifestyle changes like stopping smoking, stopping drinking, losing weight, eating better foods, getting more exercise, blah, blah, blah, are all better long term solutions.
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ain't the point that high blood pressure exposes person to ever increasing blood pressure by degrading tissue in veins, and so whatever you manage to keep on doing daily keeps you out of pathological issues?
 
I am starting to believe in incorrect set of cognitions, it is not leaving me alone, exposing me to breaking and adopting it as truth. I don't even know if it is incorrect anymore, but I believe it is when I am high on weed, but I also tend to give people too much benefit of doubt high.

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Pissed_and_messed said:
I am starting to believe in incorrect set of cognitions, it is not leaving me alone, exposing me to breaking and adopting it as truth. I don't even know if it is incorrect anymore, but I believe it is when I am high on weed, but I also tend to give people too much benefit of doubt high.

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We all have thousands of thoughts pass through our minds every day. Some of them are ridiculous or crazy garbage and we can try to recognise these thoughts and not get attached to them or bogged down in them.

Easier said than done, but I have dabbled with some basic introductory level ideas of meditation - just sometimes consciously using ones capacity to observe ones thoughts, without getting caught up in them, and found this extremely useful.

I guess ideally we'd have this kind of detached self awareness of our thoughts going on all the time.

(Ekkhart Tolle describes it his books about how he went through a stage of thinking "I can not live with myself". And so he deduced there must be 2 selves, The "I" that could not live with his "self". Tbh I didn't get what he was trying to say, and he's too mystical and woo woo for me, and as much as I'd like to understand what he's trying to say and to impliment it, I just cannot follow him. And ive made a terrible job of trying to summarise what he was saying. But basically he was able to discard the suicidally depressed and anxious version of himself as he came to the realisation that that was not himself!

Maybe he just meant that the "I" that is capabable of being self aware of one's own thoughts, is separate from the "self" that is comprised of ones thoughts. Not sure. It sounds pretty deep and mind blowing imho. Although it could just be new age woo woo nonsense. His books tend to be highly rated though, so the jury is out I guess.

He said that once he realised this he just sat on park benches for 12 months feeling profoundly free and happy!)

I should really get much deeper into the less woo woo or new age aspects of meditaion, just for the sake of improving my self awareness of my thinking, as it could help me loads, as I go through periods of forgetting about all this stuff, and end up getting bogged down in my thoughts, and it's really not good when they are negative, destructive, or anxious, spirals of doom. Even If I just observed my thoughts and let them go, for 5 minutes each day as I've started doing recently on a brief 5 minute walk I have through some woods before I start work. It helps clear my mind off all the shite, before I start my working day

Weed is definitely a wild card in this whole thing, as it increases the capacity massively for completely random, sometimes completely nonsensical thoughts. Sometimes it can lead to new insights regarding old memories or ongoing issues though.

I kind of went over the edge at one point in my late teens by taking paranoia based weed thoughts far too seriously, and that amongst other things quite seriosuly fucked over my mental health for some time.
 
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Bleaney said:
We all have thousands of thoughts pass through our minds every day. Some of them are ridiculous or crazy garbage and we can try to recognise these thoughts and not get attached to them or bogged down in them.

Easier said than done, but I have dabbled with some basic introductory level ideas of meditation - just sometimes consciously using ones capacity to observe ones thoughts, without getting caught up in them, and found this extremely useful.

I guess ideally we'd have this kind of detached self awareness of our thoughts going on all the time.

(Ekkhart Tolle describes it his books about how he went through a stage of thinking "I can not live with myself". And so he deduced there must be 2 selves, The "I" that could not live with his "self". Tbh I didn't get what he was trying to say, and he's too mystical and woo woo for me, and as much as I'd like to understand what he's trying to say and to impliment it, I just cannot follow him. And ive made a terrible job of trying to summarise what he was saying. But basically he was able to discard the suicidally depressed and anxious version of himself as he came to the realisation that that was not himself!

He said that once he realised this he just sat on park benches for 12 months feeling profoundly free and happy!)

I should really get much deeper into the less woo woo or new age aspects of meditaion, just for the sake of improving my self awareness of my thinking, as it could help me loads, as I go through periods of forgetting about all this stuff, and end up getting bogged down in my thoughts, and it's really not good when they are negative, destructive, or anxious, spirals of doom. Even If I just observed my thoughts and let them go, for 5 minutes each day as I've started doing recently on a brief 5 minute walk I have through some woods before I start work. It helps clear my mind off all the shite, before I start my working day

Weed is definitely a wild card in this whole thing, as it increases the capacity massively for completely random, sometimes completely nonsensical thoughts. Sometimes it can lead to new insights regarding old memories or ongoing issues though.

I kind of went over the edge at one point in my late teens by taking paranoia based weed thoughts far too seriously, and that amongst other things quite seriosuly fucked over my mental health for some time.
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The set of cognition really stopped suddenly having power over me and giving birth to new cognitions that are based on same logic, so I started to experience different sets of cognitions that were equally irrational but I got high and slept a bit and I think I am pretty good now not much of scenario running or anything. I developed defence that is based on love and empathy; even if some irrational cognitions were correct, it does not mean I need to adapt the whole set-I can cut the set from any point.
 
I am biological machine with consciousness to consider biological machine with consciousness valuable. I am still wearing out over the years, which causes distress in biological machine that considers biological machine with consciousness valuable.
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
ain't the point that high blood pressure exposes person to ever increasing blood pressure by degrading tissue in veins, and so whatever you manage to keep on doing daily keeps you out of pathological issues?
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Yeah, I guess that can be one of the long term effects of living with untreated or unmanaged high blood pressure for the long term.

I find the link between stress and high blood pressure, and vice versa, quite phenominal.

There is a biological reason some people are prone to stress, and that only makes their already high blood pressure even worse. It's a vicious circle.

Take away the high blood pressure and you take away a lot of the stress. Also take away the stress and you reduce the high blood pressure, to some extent.

And my old benzo buddies do indeed help melt away stress, possibly by reducing blood pressure, as well as helping reduce anxiety, but obviously that's an entirely different process or mechanism, or w/e the correct term is.
 
I am glad to hear you have so good taste in energy drinks.

My caffeine and amphetamine system is having increase in blood, I just need to take few more tokes to drop off like a fly again. I have money when I wake up.
 
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