is darkweb good quality?

[HealingEnergy14]

Safe? No. You are giving elements of organized crime structures your address and hope everything goes well. (This also means that there is a chilling effect regarding writing a negative review about a criminal who has your address). You can therefore get ripped off despite seemingly good reviews though they def help to find a good vendor.

Then there are legal aspects. I got busted. The platform got busted. The dealer who kept my personal data and my handle got busted. What happened next was that the authorities got my info when they busted the dealer. Then they got hold of the database dump from the platform and next they reconstructed my buyers history. Long story short, I got charged with buying drugs in 31 cases. A friend of mine got busted with small amounts twice.

I dont really use darknet markets anymore since that incident.

I would suggest that if you do it you should not just be using torbrowser but boot up the most recent iso of tails instead which additionally to torbrowser provides a security hardened linux environment.
I would also suggest that you make a new acc on the platform after every purchase. This is a bit of a hassle but that way you dont accumulate a buyers history that could be used against you. This aint a social network after all.

Good luck.

The Market I've used in the past (I don't use it anymore, used it mostly for Opioids and I'm trying to stay away from those...) deleted history of buying and selling; or so they say. Obviously you can never know for sure.

In which jurisdiction do you live if I may ask, are they able to charge you with buying drugs without a trace of the actual transaction there? Was this with Bitcoin or XMR? I suppose piecing together databases from the dealer and the platform is already significant evidence, yet I don't believe that can get you convicted in most countries. I might be wrong, please do not see this as legal advice anyone.

The DW certainly poses risks, it is very hard to operate online (even with TOR) without leaving a trace of your identity, especially when making transactions. Your suggestion of making new accounts for every purchase is very good. I'd like to add that some vendors (not many) also offer "dead-drop" delivery (I have no experience with such things but I've seen it offered while browsing DW markets) which means you don't have to reveal your address or even name. They will simply leave the goods at an agreed upon location at a certain time.

About your first point, many casual drug users are not afraid to use their phone to call for a dealer to bring cocaine, mdma, amphetamines or other drugs to their house or appartment. In those scenarios you also reveal your address to a criminal organization, one that often is even more close to home.

Whether online or offline; buying drugs or medicine that isn't prescribed by your doctor (many steroids, anti-biotics etc also sold on the DW) will very rarely be without risk.

I hope everyone is careful and does proper research when engaging in such behavior.

 

[Felonious Monk]

There are vendors who claim that they promptly delete all buyer info once something has been shipped and I believe them because whenever something hasn’t arrived I’ve had to provide my address again. Of course there’s no way to be completely sure but it’s good opsec for them too. The less info a dealer has the better for him.

Exactly, some vendors are dumb and there's no way around that besides just being careful who you do business with. Which is of course smart to do for buying drugs in person too. Someone can use your address without your consent, but nobody can use your face (Face/Off excluded). Though there's been a couple vendors who seemed ok but actually were writing down customer information... cough Narco710 cough cough... But LE doesn't really seem to go after customers much, I've only heard of a few people ever being tracked down just based on a vendor being busted.

And you're not really giving your address to a cartel. Cartels aren't selling directly on the internet, though your vendor may well have direct cartel connections. It's more likely to be a random dealer who's competent enough with opsec and the internet to sell online, and has good enough hookups to offer to such a large market.

 

[foodcrisis]

I’ve bought & used many drugs (at least 40 different drugs of all different types) from both the street and online, for 24yrs. How many times have you ordered from the dark web - ballpark - and what have you ordered? When was the last time you did so? Have you done so recently, because markets change and new systems develop. Otherwise you’re just talking about hearsay, not actual experience. It really sounds like you’re just exaggerating based on limited experience and bad stories you’ve heard.

The acid available online is incredibly high-quality and high purity and has been for several years. It’s even better than the acid I was able to get with my best street connections over 20 years ago. NBOME blotter was being sold on the street too you know.

Anytime you’re buying drugs is sketchy, in person or online. That’s the nature of dealing with illicit substances.

Many vendors stay active for 5+ years, through multiple markets. Most markets stay around for at least a couple years but the good vendors switch markets as necessary and far outlast the markets.

i think we are kind of saying the same thing... i'm saying i have limited experience myself and am hearing stories. that's what i wrote...

i said the lsd is usually good, even though on this site a few members all said it was underdosed, and my experience was it's underdosed... plenty of people claim it's legit dosing from the right vendor.

honestly i never ordered hard drugs through the dark web cause i thought it was a bad idea... i'm done with this posting.. i'll probably say i don't think it's a great idea in other threads though and you can say whatever you want sticking up for the dark web..

if you google about the dark web, it's gonna sound like a bad idea... i realize that could be propaganda.

 

[sHR00m]

The Market I've used in the past (I don't use it anymore, used it mostly for Opioids and I'm trying to stay away from those...) deleted history of buying and selling; or so they say. Obviously you can never know for sure.

In which jurisdiction do you live if I may ask, are they able to charge you with buying drugs without a trace of the actual transaction there? Was this with Bitcoin or XMR? I suppose piecing together databases from the dealer and the platform is already significant evidence, yet I don't believe that can get you convicted in most countries. I might be wrong, please do not see this as legal advice anyone.

The DW certainly poses risks, it is very hard to operate online (even with TOR) without leaving a trace of your identity, especially when making transactions. Your suggestion of making new accounts for every purchase is very good. I'd like to add that some vendors (not many) also offer "dead-drop" delivery (I have no experience with such things but I've seen it offered while browsing DW markets) which means you don't have to reveal your address or even name. They will simply leave the goods at an agreed upon location at a certain time.

About your first point, many casual drug users are not afraid to use their phone to call for a dealer to bring cocaine, mdma, amphetamines or other drugs to their house or appartment. In those scenarios you also reveal your address to a criminal organization, one that often is even more close to home.

Whether online or offline; buying drugs or medicine that isn't prescribed by your doctor (many steroids, anti-biotics etc also sold on the DW) will very rarely be without risk.

I hope everyone is careful and does proper research when engaging in such behavior.

Im from Germany. My lawyer said they have me nailed on several levels. Their reasoning was something like: Since we have completed purchases without a single complaint we assume you always got what you paid for and that the quality usually checked out. I ended up confessing. I truthfully stated that I was heavily hooked to synthetic cannabinoids and got pot from the darknet for substitution since my life was in danger. That worked. The charges got dropped.

Sure, a drug deal has risks, online and offline. Its just that I wanted to paint an accurate picture of whats happening there. I have seen vendors implicitly threatening their customers with "consequences" should they abuse their replacement policy for example. I dont think most people have such consequences in mind when dealing with darknet markets.

 

[fairnymph]

i think we are kind of saying the same thing... i'm saying i have limited experience myself and am hearing stories. that's what i wrote...

i said the lsd is usually good, even though on this site a few members all said it was underdosed, and my experience was it's underdosed... plenty of people claim it's legit dosing from the right vendor.

honestly i never ordered hard drugs through the dark web cause i thought it was a bad idea... i'm done with this posting.. i'll probably say i don't think it's a great idea in other threads though and you can say whatever you want sticking up for the dark web..

if you google about the dark web, it's gonna sound like a bad idea... i realize that could be propaganda.

The acid I have gotten online has been stronger than any acid I’ve ever gotten in person and much cheaper!

 

[foodcrisis]

The acid I have gotten online has been stronger than any acid I’ve ever gotten in person and much cheaper!

yeah.. maybe your experiences will cause some one to use the dark web and they'll have a good experience. i'm not gonna say it's not possible.

i'd just use extreme caution and myself, wouldn't even mess with it from what i heard from people that order to my area of the US... like i said the weed was usually stale. it wasn't even THAT BAD, but local stuff was just better usually... my local lsd is always stacked too, but doesn't come around all the time.

this is a true story with the dark web that happened to me... someone said if you buy a quarter of weed, they'd send you a free ounce... they only sent me the quarter, so i replied back "you didn't send me the ounce". they sent me back a bag with yarn leaves from a tree and like a nail and some other random crap... not even kidding... one of the online connects was the same exact weed i used to get locally though, and it was one of my favorite strains. i got like a half pound from that dealer in a few different orders. that was totally sweet while it was going on.... just saying, i might expect to get some stuff you don't want to take if you test. one time i got a half ounce of weed i paid a lot for expecting it to be really good, and it was vacuum sealed for so long the weed tasted absolutely disgusting and it didn't burn right at all, so i have no idea if it was laced or whatever. i've never tasted anything so bad... i think poster fairynymph is having really good luck if they've done 40 dealers or gotten 40 different drugs whatever it was and they are all good... idk. good for you i guess, but like people that get stuff locally, buying on the dark web has killed some people with bad drugs... drugs are just sketchy in general. with some general knowlege i think most people are gonna stay away from stuff that could have street fentanyl in it, which is gonna make ordering pressed pills from the dark web a waste of time.

 

[Phobos]

I can't really understand why no sourcing...sure not in open forum...but with pm's...and obviously not to someone who just joined.

Isn't that a part of harm minimization, pointing someone in the right direction.

I sure wish someone would give me a helping hand with the online scene...doing google searches gives so many results surely most must be scams.

Anyway I'm in australia so it's likely a pointless exercise.

If sourcing is allowed in private chats nothing stops LE from posing as a user and ask questions.
If they get contacts of plugs, or any other info that can be considered equivalent such as enough information to go on the DW and buy from a specific vendor, then Bluelight can be deemed to be a platform that allows sourcing of drugs and that would probably end up with the website getting shut down.

 

[Phobos]

The Market I've used in the past (I don't use it anymore, used it mostly for Opioids and I'm trying to stay away from those...) deleted history of buying and selling; or so they say. Obviously you can never know for sure.

In which jurisdiction do you live if I may ask, are they able to charge you with buying drugs without a trace of the actual transaction there? Was this with Bitcoin or XMR? I suppose piecing together databases from the dealer and the platform is already significant evidence, yet I don't believe that can get you convicted in most countries. I might be wrong, please do not see this as legal advice anyone.

The DW certainly poses risks, it is very hard to operate online (even with TOR) without leaving a trace of your identity, especially when making transactions. Your suggestion of making new accounts for every purchase is very good. I'd like to add that some vendors (not many) also offer "dead-drop" delivery (I have no experience with such things but I've seen it offered while browsing DW markets) which means you don't have to reveal your address or even name. They will simply leave the goods at an agreed upon location at a certain time.

About your first point, many casual drug users are not afraid to use their phone to call for a dealer to bring cocaine, mdma, amphetamines or other drugs to their house or appartment. In those scenarios you also reveal your address to a criminal organization, one that often is even more close to home.

Whether online or offline; buying drugs or medicine that isn't prescribed by your doctor (many steroids, anti-biotics etc also sold on the DW) will very rarely be without risk.

I hope everyone is careful and does proper research when engaging in such behavior.

The markets will always allow for the transaction history to be deleted, but if a vendor is arrested and they kept some customer data, or if that data is retrieved from his drives, then you could get in trouble, at least if you bought large enough batches.

 

[fairnymph]

yeah.. maybe your experiences will cause some one to use the dark web and they'll have a good experience. i'm not gonna say it's not possible.

i'd just use extreme caution and myself, wouldn't even mess with it from what i heard from people that order to my area of the US... like i said the weed was usually stale. it wasn't even THAT BAD, but local stuff was just better usually... my local lsd is always stacked too, but doesn't come around all the time.

this is a true story with the dark web that happened to me... someone said if you buy a quarter of weed, they'd send you a free ounce... they only sent me the quarter, so i replied back "you didn't send me the ounce". they sent me back a bag with yarn leaves from a tree and like a nail and some other random crap... not even kidding... one of the online connects was the same exact weed i used to get locally though, and it was one of my favorite strains. i got like a half pound from that dealer in a few different orders. that was totally sweet while it was going on.... just saying, i might expect to get some stuff you don't want to take if you test. one time i got a half ounce of weed i paid a lot for expecting it to be really good, and it was vacuum sealed for so long the weed tasted absolutely disgusting and it didn't burn right at all, so i have no idea if it was laced or whatever. i've never tasted anything so bad... i think poster fairynymph is having really good luck if they've done 40 dealers or gotten 40 different drugs whatever it was and they are all good... idk. good for you i guess, but like people that get stuff locally, buying on the dark web has killed some people with bad drugs... drugs are just sketchy in general. with some general knowlege i think most people are gonna stay away from stuff that could have street fentanyl in it, which is gonna make ordering pressed pills from the dark web a waste of time.

Not all my experiences online have been good. Far from it. About 1/4 of the vendors I’ve ordered from (at least 200 vendors) - nothing ever arrived. And of course I’ve gotten bad quality stuff online. But, that’s the same on the street! I’ve gotten wood chips & salt given to me or people just disappeared with my cash. AND I could’ve been jumped, robbed, raped & even killed. Online at least doesn’t have those risks, and except for weed, cocaine, heroin & a few benzos, most drugs are REALLY hard to find on the street, but can readily be gotten online.

Online isn’t perfect, but it’s BETTER, because I can find higher quality & a greater variety of drugs, at cheaper prices, with fewer risks. That is my whole point. Plus I’ve lost maybe €500 to scammers online but over €10,000 to scammers on the street.

 

[fairnymph]

If sourcing is allowed in private chats nothing stops LE from posing as a user and ask questions.
If they get contacts of plugs, or any other info that can be considered equivalent such as enough information to go on the DW and buy from a specific vendor, then Bluelight can be deemed to be a platform that allows sourcing of drugs and that would probably end up with the website getting shut down.

And this site is a charitable organisation - it’s not just a random website.

 

[vision conquest]

If sourcing is allowed in private chats nothing stops LE from posing as a user and ask questions.
If they get contacts of plugs, or any other info that can be considered equivalent such as enough information to go on the DW and buy from a specific vendor, then Bluelight can be deemed to be a platform that allows sourcing of drugs and that would probably end up with the website getting shut down.

Fair enough man, this forum has helped a lot of people and risking it is not cool.

 

[foodcrisis]

Not all my experiences online have been good. Far from it. About 1/4 of the vendors I’ve ordered from (at least 200 vendors) - nothing ever arrived. And of course I’ve gotten bad quality stuff online. But, that’s the same on the street! I’ve gotten wood chips & salt given to me or people just disappeared with my cash. AND I could’ve been jumped, robbed, raped & even killed. Online at least doesn’t have those risks, and except for weed, cocaine, heroin & a few benzos, most drugs are REALLY hard to find on the street, but can readily be gotten online.

Online isn’t perfect, but it’s BETTER, because I can find higher quality & a greater variety of drugs, at cheaper prices, with fewer risks. That is my whole point. Plus I’ve lost maybe €500 to scammers online but over €10,000 to scammers on the street.

i hear where you are coming from... i'm just really not recommending online or IRL dealers for most drugs... @ the OP's question, i don't think it'd be realistic to say there's not some risk to get bad products and it's kind of annoying to deal with the bad vendors at the very least.



i feel like if someone is from an area with good drugs, the online quality isn't going to be better. then again i don't know what gets sent to different parts of the world... i guess everyone is in a different situation... i'd just advice against the dark web and advice against purchasing a lot of types of drugs on the street. plain and simple... i hope if anybody plans to use the dark web they have good luck and are careful with using.

 

[Pickledlemons]

Best coke I've ever had was from the darkweb. You cut out so many middlemen.

In most cases you don't even have to look that hard. Find an established seller that isn't suspiciously cheap or labelled 'social cocaine' ( that usually means cut down to 60% or so - still better than street coke but not the best). The price ends up being slightly more than in my area, if you find a competent dealer I mean. If you buy from some random guy on the street corner who deals in 'bags' and not weight, you're probably saving 100 - 200% weight wise, and like 10x or more high per $.

The last time especially it was good. I really like the fishscale type coke and it was that. You buy a gram and it lasts like two days. You buy a gram off the street it lasts a couple hours to.... maybe for the rest of the night. But this stuff, so strong, that lines were so small, it lasted multiple days. A regular user might use it faster but yeah... high quality stuff is what I'm trying to say. And I wasn't trying to find the best quality coke. I just found an established seller that was in my country and wasn't too cheap and wasn't too expensive either.

The dark web is the best. Its a shame its not quite as active as it once was, and constant ddos attacks have lead to ridiculous amount of captcha systems, then you have rotating URLS, its such a pain. And now a lot of sites don't use bitcoin and use more secure crypto instead which is fine but in my case I had to change my coin exchange which was a whole thing with more captchas and verification.

BUT when I have my heart set on buying a drug online, I find a way to get it done.

 

[fairnymph]

i hear where you are coming from... i'm just really not recommending online or IRL dealers for most drugs... @ the OP's question, i don't think it'd be realistic to say there's not some risk to get bad products and it's kind of annoying to deal with the bad vendors at the very least.



i feel like if someone is from an area with good drugs, the online quality isn't going to be better. then again i don't know what gets sent to different parts of the world... i guess everyone is in a different situation... i'd just advice against the dark web and advice against purchasing a lot of types of drugs on the street. plain and simple... i hope if anybody plans to use the dark web they have good luck and are careful with using.

Problem is most areas of the world don’t have good drugs.

 

[cart23]

Problem is most areas of the world don’t have good drugs.

I’d trade living in US for Germany. A simpler access to a much milder stimulant such as amphetamine paste and all that euro market stuff like captagon would’ve saved many I know from going down the meth route and ruining their lives. It seems as if Americans will just settle for anything I guess‍♂

 

[HealingEnergy14]

I’d trade living in US for Germany. A simpler access to a much milder stimulant such as amphetamine paste and all that euro market stuff like captagon would’ve saved many I know from going down the meth route and ruining their lives. It seems as if Americans will just settle for anything I guess‍♂

I've never heard of Captagon being available in Europe or the DW for that matter. I believe it's more common in parts of the Middle East and Asia, now reading about it I would like to try it some day.

I feel like Methamphetamine is highly overrated, although I have never smoked it which I believe is more common in America. It doesn't produce a stronger kick to me compared to regular amphetamine and you're just awake for even longer. For me the 8+ hours of wakefulness (with only a few of those being actually pleasurable if you've used amphetamine often) of amphetamine are already a bit much.

 

[fairnymph]

I’d trade living in US for Germany. A simpler access to a much milder stimulant such as amphetamine paste and all that euro market stuff like captagon would’ve saved many I know from going down the meth route and ruining their lives. It seems as if Americans will just settle for anything I guess‍♂

I can’t wait to be back in the US. I do not like it here, for so many reasons. And the amphetamine here is really not that great even when it’s quite pure; it’s just a pretty shitty stimulant compared to meth imo - which is why it’s not abused nearly as much. Never heard of captagon.

 

[andyturbo]

If sourcing is allowed in private chats nothing stops LE from posing as a user and ask questions.
If they get contacts of plugs, or any other info that can be considered equivalent such as enough information to go on the DW and buy from a specific vendor, then Bluelight can be deemed to be a platform that allows sourcing of drugs and that would probably end up with the website getting shut down.

One reason Bluelight has survived for 25 years is the strict enforcement of the No Sourcing rule. Not in direct messages, nowhere. It still bothers me how many direct messages I receive about sourcing, even just last week. I wish more people would read the Bluelight User Agreement (BLUA), or if they have, take it seriously. It exists for a good reason.

**Edit** This rant had nothing to do with the main topic of the thread btw, It was strictly in reference to sourcing in DM's. I personally use DNM all the time, I can't remember the last IRL purchase I made. So im not having a go at OP. I do have one story myself involving an older DNM that was busted in 2018/2019? and an AFP (Australian Federal Police) visit (3 years later LOL) but I won't hijack the thread. **end edit**

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

Use the dread forum and research any vendor you want to use through dread. People are really good at sussing out who has the good stuff and who's a scammer.

 

[pacoloco]

About as safe as a Mexican flea market from my experience. Yeah, you shouldn't feel in danger, but there's really no legitimacy that they're gonna stay around legitimately

Sounds like you should test what you got. I thought the Coke there is supposed to be good. You really have to do your market research, I guess