Benzos Clonazolam vs Flunitrazolam

[dorian.927]

According to your experiences, what is the strongest designer benzodiazepine between the clonazolam and flunitrazolam by unit of mg ? What is the equivalence ?

 

[throwaway4benzos]

Clonazolam, at 1mg, is by far a heavy dose. A heavy dose of flunitrazepam is 4mg. I'd say 0.25mg of clonazolam is roughly equivalent to 1mg of flunitrazepam if my math is correct. They're both quite similar in terms of onset and total duration. I'm not sure about their half-lives, though; hopefully, someone else can provide that info. All in all, both are fantastic for insomnia, with a blackout almost guaranteed for either of them.

EDIT: Oh shit, I read that wrong. I thought you were talking about flunitrazepam (Rohypnol), oops. Well, back to the drawing board. Disregard what I said above; flunitrazolam is definitely stronger than clonazolam on a milligram-to-milligram basis. So, if we were to compare them in terms of their potency, you'd need ~0.3mg of clonazolam to get an effect similar to what you'd feel with 0.1mg of flunitrazolam. Nevertheless, blackout city seems to be guaranteed with both of them. Also, their onset and duration seem to be about the same. Be careful, my friend.

 

[dorian.927]

Thank you for your reply. Did you experiment yourself with clonazolam and flunitrazolam or is your reply based upon other people's experience reports ?

 

[endod2]

I didn't care too much for flunitrazolam. It felt very heavy. I guess alot of people would like that.

I use cloazepam and for me it's a very clean feeling drug. Does exactly what I need it too

I've only use clonazelam a few times and it was ok.

 

[throwaway4benzos]

Thank you for your reply. Did you experiment yourself with clonazolam and flunitrazolam or is your reply based upon other people's experience reports ?

I haven’t experimented with any RC benzos besides bromazolam. My knowledge is entirely based on other people's experiences and general information about the drugs. They don’t seem very appealing to me, given how potent and hypnotic they are.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

They don t differ much in structure,
Clonitrazolam/ Clonazolam and Flunitrazolam.
The -Pam versions my experience, about zero.
FlunitrazePam at a low dose felt, nothing special 1 mg total.
ClonazePam kinda the same at 1 mg.

So comparing em with each other it is. Flunitrazolam lame.
Good sleeping aid. But missing.
DesmethyFlunitrazePam worse btw. But Clonazolam, way too nice
And compulsive. Bromazolam about in the middle.

All these are not on my list, still rank Etizolam as the best.

 

[JackARoe]

All these are not on my list, still rank Etizolam as the best.

It is funny I too liked etizolam because it was light. It was all over the place, very easy to get for like 10 years. (maybe now too but I am unfamiliar with the dark web) But the drug at the time was being dogged on, people saying it was too light. People getting up to 10-20 mgs a day. Now that it is not around as much we put the drug on legend status. But I remember the dissing it got when it was all around. But yeah I liked it because it was light and had a short half life. At one point I would take 1 mgs on a Sunday night before bed and wake up refreshed for Monday, I have some diazepam and it does feel the same to me but the half life is concerning. I don't want a drug rolling around me a few days from one administration even if just 10 mgs. So with diazepam the half life keeps me using 10-15 mgs less than 3 times a month and I am in the middle of a stress fest and could use more. Just the 5 mgs Tevas but still. That half life. Not sure why that bothers me. But wish the safer etizolam was around. Although some of you may say how safe diazepam is compared to some of the RC's. So in a way I am glad it is diazepam I can use for now.

Never had any of the stronger benzos listed in the post though. We need some more lighter ones.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

It is funny I too liked etizolam because it was light. It was all over the place, very easy to get for like 10 years. (maybe now too but I am unfamiliar with the dark web) But the drug at the time was being dogged on, people saying it was too light. People getting up to 10-20 mgs a day. Now that it is not around as much we put the drug on legend status. But I remember the dissing it got when it was all around. But yeah I liked it because it was light and had a short half life. At one point I would take 1 mgs on a Sunday night before bed and wake up refreshed for Monday, I have some diazepam and it does feel the same to me but the half life is concerning. I don't want a drug rolling around me a few days from one administration even if just 10 mgs. So with diazepam the half life keeps me using 10-15 mgs less than 3 times a month and I am in the middle of a stress fest and could use more. Just the 5 mgs Tevas but still. That half life. Not sure why that bothers me. But wish the safer etizolam was around. Although some of you may say how safe diazepam is compared to some of the RC's. So in a way I am glad it is diazepam I can use for now.

Never had any of the stronger benzos listed in the post though. We need some more lighter ones.

If Diazepam would last a reasonable ammount of time like Etizolam.
It be a winner, att i had a seizure and DETOX/Alcohol.
They give you bizar high dose, too late in case of the seizure.
But reaching 100 mg.

And 180 mg in 5 days at DETOX.
The last one they checked your Urine, 11 day s after stopping Diazepam.
It was easy detectable and felt, day 17 [12 after dosing last Diazepam]
I was still feeling it, long legs.

The day i left DETOX, it was a shame to medical care. Retards.

 

[JackARoe]

If Diazepam would last a reasonable ammount of time like Etizolam.
It be a winner, att i had a seizure and DETOX/Alcohol.
They give you bizar high dose, too late in case of the seizure.
But reaching 100 mg.

And 180 mg in 5 days at DETOX.
The last one they checked your Urine, 11 day s after stopping Diazepam.
It was easy detectable and felt, day 17 [12 after dosing last Diazepam]
I was still feeling it, long legs.

The day i left DETOX, it was a shame to medical care. Retards.

Both etizolam and diazepam last the same, maybe a longer calm with diazepam. I imagine that 180 mgs of diazepam in detox built up the metabolites in the blood stream more than say a single use of 10 mgs.

We read the longer acting benzos are safer but I think that applies to people that do use as a med everyday. ( i can count on one hand how many times I took a benzo two days in a row in my life) I think it could be more dangerous if a person thinks they can take diazepam every other day and be ok. And they may for a long time. But it has been said if someone takes 30 mgs once a week that could cause issues? Eh, maybe after a decade of that. I doubt it, although someone on reddit will cry they are in benzo withdrawal from once a week.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Both etizolam and diazepam last the same, maybe a longer calm with diazepam. I imagine that 180 mgs of diazepam in detox built up the metabolites in the blood stream more than say a single use of 10 mgs.

We read the longer acting benzos are safer but I think that applies to people that do use as a med everyday. ( i can count on one hand how many times I took a benzo two days in a row in my life) I think it could be more dangerous if a person thinks they can take diazepam every other day and be ok. And they may for a long time. But it has been said if someone takes 30 mgs once a week that could cause issues? Eh, maybe after a decade of that. I doubt it, although someone on reddit will cry they are in benzo withdrawal from once a week.

The first time I took Etizolam, no tolerance again. Diazepam too btw.
Way to much, went to have dental surgery and a ex that felt it was the
right moment to start a 2 hour fight. Took way too many, and lost some too.

Lets assume 10 mg Etizolam at least, got a most relaxed patient from the dentist.
Somehow got home, about zero recollection how. Was the first time i went there.
Amazing how one go on autopilot. But next day I was fine, no residual effects.
[Att i was on Kratom and a few bumps MXE too i ll admit]

Like Diazepam even after that single dose after the seizure had.
That one lasted also 5 days or so. So same half live doesn t mean,
its still noticeable. At least not in me,

Etizolam next day gives me no residual grogginess,
or feeling stoned/ slow. Why if the half lives are the same ?