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Jnowhere said:
The left and the terrorists and their billions of supporters want the Jews exterminated, just like Hiitler.
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i'm one of those appalling lefties (just like your man jc) you seem to hate so much.

i don't want the jews exterminated.

i guess i don't fit in your pigeonhole?

alasdair
 
someguyontheinternet said:
The Palestinians were already there when Israel showed up

What would you do if someone moved into your house and only let you live in the basement bathroom? They have more guns than you
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This argument is a real blast from the past lol.

There were people there before the "Palestinians" too.

Every piece of land on earth was conquered at one point or another.

Until you're ready to donate your home to an indigenous person, maybe stop being a hypocrite and holding others to a standard you don't keep for yourself.
 
mal3volent said:
This argument is a real blast from the past lol.

There were people there before the "Palestinians" too.

Every piece of land on earth was conquered at one point or another.

Until you're ready to donate your home to an indigenous person, maybe stop being a hypocrite and holding others to a standard you don't keep for yourself.
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Yea I guess we should just be okay with ethnic cleansing them. Great point!
 
someguyontheinternet said:
Yea I guess we should just be okay with ethnic cleansing them. Great point!
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You are living on stolen land right now.
Brutally conquered by ethnically cleansing the natives.
In a country built by slave labor and exploitation.

You can't have it both ways. Rules for thee, but not for me.

Now with Trump, the Palestinians are in actual danger of never seeing their homes again. Who knows what could happen. With Trump's backing maybe Netanyahu feels bold enough to annex the West Bank?

I voted for Kamala not because I agree with her on everything but because she represented the only sane option on the most important issues. A two state solution being the goal no matter how difficult it might be. Now everything's on the table.

The far left enabled this with their demonization of her more centrist policies. (and pushing her too far left on social issues) Now we have administration officials heiling Hitler and the president himself doing propaganda for Putin in the Oval Office.

What happened to all the campus protests by the way?
 
nepalnt21 said:
alt- right talking point, blame the left for fascists existing
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Not for existing.

But yeah, when elections come down to a few thousand votes in a few states... labeling the only viable opposition to Trump as a genocide supporter etc etc probably isn't very helpful.

It's just you guys thought you could have your cake and eat it too.
 
mal3volent said:
You are living on stolen land right now.
Brutally conquered by ethnically cleansing the natives.
In a country built by slave labor and exploitation.

You can't have it both ways. Rules for thee, but not for me.

Now with Trump, the Palestinians are in actual danger of never seeing their homes again. Who knows what could happen. With Trump's backing maybe Netanyahu feels bold enough to annex the West Bank?

I voted for Kamala not because I agree with her on everything but because she represented the only sane option on the most important issues. A two state solution being the goal no matter how difficult it might be. Now everything's on the table.

The far left enabled this with their demonization of her more centrist policies. (and pushing her too far left on social issues) Now we have administration officials heiling Hitler and the president himself doing propaganda for Putin in the Oval Office.

What happened to all the campus protests by the way?
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Is the US government currently doing ethnic cleansing? 🤔

"You live on stolen land so you should be okay with ethnic cleansing happening right now"

What an incredibly stupid argument
 
This is where a Marxist-Leninist state comes in. You can have Israeli's running Palestine or Palestinians for that matter but unless its for the working class not much will change. You can swap rich Israelis for rich Palestinians and the only thing that changes is the flag
 
someguyontheinternet said:
Is the US government currently doing ethnic cleansing? 🤔

"You live on stolen land so you should be okay with ethnic cleansing happening right now"

What an incredibly stupid argument
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If it's so stupid maybe explain why it's stupid instead of just saying it's stupid?

You don't have to be okay with it. But just stay morally consistent.

If you want the Israelis to forfeit their land because someone else had it before them, it's only fair that you relinquish yours as well. Even if you don't own land, your apartment building stands on ground soaked in Native blood.
 
paranoid android said:
This is where a Marxist-Leninist state comes in. You can have Israeli's running Palestine or Palestinians for that matter but unless its for the working class not much will change. You can swap rich Israelis for rich Palestinians and the only thing that changes is the flag
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Israel is a nation based on religion.
So is Palestine.
Both nations were formed from the same family believing in the same God. They are arguing over a 5000 year old family inheritance.
Why on earth would either nation want to live under a "godless" Marxist-Leninist government? That's not what either of those "peoples" want. Marxist governments explicitly suppress all religions.
Can we at least try to pretend this is about Israel/Palestine instead of pushing Marxism as a ideological solution?
 
palestine is a nation... based on religion?

i'm having some trouble here with my brain i think
 
nepalnt21 said:
palestine is a nation... based on religion?

i'm having some trouble here with my brain i think
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All Muslim countries are inherently based on the belief in Allah. They all have the same law giving base, namely Sharia Law.


Sharia is Islam's legal system.

It is derived from the Quran, Islam's holy book, as well as the Sunnah and Hadith - the deeds and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad.
Where an answer cannot be derived directly from these, religious scholars may give rulings as guidance on a particular topic or question.

BBC News

I looked into it in depth because I was seriously considering becoming a Muslim at one time in my life.
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
sgoti did not claim that is how they wants it.
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Doesn't matter how he wants it. Actions speak louder than words. If you tell others they're wrong for living on stolen ground, you should lead by example and give your property over to indigenous people. Don't be a white colonizer.
 
There it is

www.yahoo.com

Egypt proposes $53 billion five-year Gaza reconstruction plan

Egypt is proposing a $53 billion five-year plan for the reconstruction of Gaza that ensures Palestinians are not displaced outside the besieged strip, according to a document seen by dpa. The removal of the rubble and restoration of around 60,000 partially damaged houses would need six months...
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Feel like that was the plan the whole time with the rhetoric. I saw it mentioned a bunch of times in recent weeks that the arabs would do what was needed to stop the U.S. from building it
 
It just makes sense for Egypt. They don't want the refugees and they don't want war going on in their region. $53 billion is so fucking cheap to avoid that.
 
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