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why does socially smokin weed causes me paranoia?

mmackie908 said:
Smoke less if it's causing you paranoia. If you always get paranoid, it's not for you.
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I would totally agree with this man.

If weed gets you para, you just shouldn't be smoking it.

What kinda people are you hanging around when toking??

But yeah, also try building up a lil more of a tolerance, as if it's very occasionally you smoke - you're going to be overwhelmed by the high EVERYTIME.

Smoke less, see how it goes...oh and also remember this - your heart rate is going to increase a fair bit when you start toking - breathe deep, and remember this, and teh edginess SHOULD disappear.
 
dextroisomer said:
I would like to thank everyone of you for your input/advice. You guys are awesome. Thanks again.... Ok, with some close friends, it can be a blast. However, it may be the people im hanging out with that purposely put me on a bad trip. Which is totally uncool and evil. People can be so fucked up.
Again, thank you all for your time and may peace be with you.
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Wait, do you have friends that try to fuck with you while you're high? I used to have a few like that, I fucking hate it. It pissed me off cause they could never just relax and enjoy the high, just said/did stupid shit all the time.
 
i've been recently hit with paranoia from smoking weed (funny.. it usually happens when I do smoke very little, like after 3 joints were passed around; it never happens after a bunch of bong hits), actually I've been hit alot worse; I felt a funny feeling in my left arm and my mind made me think I was gonna have a serious heart attack. (paranoia.. lol)

Luckily after doing 3 shroom trips i can easily change my current perception of the situation and just think.. we are all just living on a rock floating through space ... u should also have a statement to make your little problems seem.. little again

anyways.. my best advice to you is to get right back into that paranoid situation, smoke a ton with your friends and feel extremely paranoid, then just face that feeling right in its face, dont let a single feeling that your brain manifests, to take over; you are in control of ur brain; so imo, face that feeling face-to-face and just accept it as another experience .. learn it.. accept it.. tell it to fuck off it is NOT a state of mind.. thats UR choice

trust me you will feel alot better and a dumb feeling like "paranoia" should not stop you from enjoying weed in a social situation; just have one shitty day where you overcome it face-to-face, for a lifetime of great social puffin

my 2cents,, have fun
 
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OMG OP I HATE people who fuck with you when you're high - what is WITH THAT?!?! People who like to mess with you even if they're high - just turning into lil attentionseeking lil shitbag children... Grr..that reminds me of one particular person, by the last year we knew him we gave him so much shit because he always used to do this, he got totally shunned.
 
dextroisomer said:
Is there a differnce between crip and chronic? If so, are chemicals added? Therefore, may this be the casue why i panick or go on a bad trip in social setting?
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Crip and chronic are only nicknames for marijuana. Chemicals are rarely, if ever, added to marijuana. The only thing that someone would add would be oregano, to cut it like cocaine is down with flour. This is rare, however, and it most likely did not happen to you. Marijuana is very rarely cut with anything.

It could be the environment that you're in that is causing your paranoia. You're with other people, and you're most likely not at home. This could be more stressful than smoking alone in the comfort of your own home. Stress can lead to paranoia.
 
Cigarettes, weed, social situations, and paranoia

1)You're caring too much what people think about yourself and the weed amplifies this thought pattern of paranoia.
2)You are on other drugs (prescription, recreational, whatever). Remember that nicotine, harmine [Psychedelic/MAOI) , and harmaline [Psychedelic/MAOI] are drugs too. These 3 sunstances are in cigarettes/tobacco.
For some people, cigarettes can have just as drastic consequences as mixing caffeine, cocaine, speed, shrooms, anti-depressants, etc. with weed.
3)You are ultra sensitive to it and need no more then 1/2 to 1 puff of weed. This is awesome moneywise but sucks because fuckers may say you're a lightweight.
4)This might be hard to take, but marijuana might not be for you. In this case, you should accept the fact that you will never be able to be a pot-head.

P.S. I found that after not smoking cigarettes for a week my ability to enjoy marijuana in social situations and in private was greatly increased to the point that it was a new experience of marijuanaing. I also noticed my mind didn't get nearly as jumbled when I smoked. I recommend anyone who smokes cigarettes and weed quit the cigs (for a WHOLE week) and see how they feel before going back to cigs.
 
Serious said:
Wait, do you have friends that try to fuck with you while you're high? I used to have a few like that, I fucking hate it. It pissed me off cause they could never just relax and enjoy the high, just said/did stupid shit all the time.
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Bro 15 years later and I'm replying back.
Lol man i hope you are ok.
Sorry for being late.
Well, i some used to mess with me but that was long ago and i don't associate with them anymore. Lol
 
Both threads are 15 years old. Wasnt sure which one to chime in on but I may aswell chime in here.

I had a similar experience with cannabis coming into my 20's in the sense that prior this, throughout my teens I would smoke about an 1/8th-1/4 a week of good quality pollen hash which had a medicinal effect on my anxiety, however apparently all of a sudden I just could not smoke it any longer without extreme paranoia and dissociation/depersonalisation which then grew into constant panic attacks. I had to put it down.

This was somewhere between 2009 and 2010. I dont know if it was a direct cause of smoking cannabis alone, if there was something extra added after that period or if my chronic anxiety issues caused it but it took me years to get over the extreme depersonalisation and derealisation issues. I havent bought it since.

The last time I smoked it was when my father bought some from a cannabis club in Lanzarote in 2019 and interestingly enough it felt incredibly good, but I havent bothered since as that was over there. Infact I was in moderate opioid withdrawal over there with the intention of detoxing in the sun (at the time I had relapsed 18 months prior) and the hash was so good that it actually allieviated a lot of my symptoms, and in Ireland I would NEVER EVEN DREAM of smoking hash/weed in Ireland while in opioid withdrawal having learned from first hand experience that it tends to make me FAR worse...but this either had an extra ingredient (doubtful as it would have made my withdrawals worse) or it was just incredible product. I'd say it was the latter. Mind you this was smoked over the last 2-3 days of a 10 day trip.

Duing covid there was little to no hash to be got in Dublin (and elsewhere so I had heard) at all and the place was flooded with myriad strangely named strains of weed (none of which I knew anything about nor to this day care to). I had gone back to college in 2019 to study Music Production and Management, and considering everyone in the place was smoking weed - I, in a bid to socialise (something that hadnt ever come easy for me) and get in with some of the people in my year I shared a few joints of (their) weed...and let me tell you, while I loved the laughing and the relaxation it had the most dire effect on my productivity. If I hadn't been so obsessive about music and insanely passionate about the course then it would have been added to my lengthy littany of failed endevors. My social life hadnt been that good in over a decade but my grades plummeted from A+'s to borderline C-'s. Thankfully I was able to recover and graduate though.

I've no desire at all to go back considering the effect on my concentration while (much better now - and gets better and better the longer as I abstain from all drugs, so I've learned.
 
Not everyone gets on with cannabis. I just have a panic attack so don't use it. I'm not against people having the right to use it as long as I have the right not to use it.
 
4DQSAR said:
Not everyone gets on with cannabis. I just have a panic attack so don't use it. I'm not against people having the right to use it as long as I have the right not to use it.
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I used to be able to smoke weed all day but now I have a panic attack from a few hits. I avoid smoking weed and it sucks cause it always worked in the past.
 
dextroisomer said:
Is there a differnce between crip and chronic? If so, are chemicals added? Therefore, may this be the casue why i panick or go on a bad trip in social setting?
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Close friend s only, or do you mean more in social gatherings ?
With acquaintances and strangers too, very important with Weed !

Where did you toke, a familiar spot or unfamiliar.
The last i would advise to at least half your dose,
as it hits at least twice as hard. No clue why, or if this is normal.

Anyone recognise this weird effect, double the effect just cause,
your smoking on a unfamiliar spot. Pure solo, no people involved.
Knowing that i half my dose.
 
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As always i'm returning back with this reality filter again:

Egzoset said:
#1) Neuro-plasticity;
#2) Contaminants;
#3) Consumption Method & Ritual;
#4) Socio-toxic 3rd-party interference
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#1 would be about acquiring a sense of self-confidence. #2 trusting the source. #3 avoiding extremes as a model. #4 dealing with decades of prohibitionist legacy by addressing all other items in search for an adapted solution.
 
Pot shops who sell their shitty weed are loaded with pesticides and toxic stuff. I'm sure other states are the same. For the big boy growers, it's all about profit. They do whatever they can to pull off a harvest and keep the money rolling in. I know plent of bigtime grow ops and it's digsuting what they use. I'll wait for any commercoal growrs to chime in and tell me I'm full of shit but they all do it, even the ones claiming it's "organic." Not to mention they like to fake the numbers of THC %.

Here in CO, most shops list the chemicals they use and it's available to the customers. (I'm not sure if it's an enacted law hat they have to do but I'd assume it is as what grower would attach a paper to their weed showing all the shit they use on theor products. So what are you getting a buzz off of? Actual THC or toxic chemicals? probably a mix of both, sadly.

Th paranoia issue? I smoked weed back in the 70's, Mexican brick weed mostly, full of seeds, mold and dirt, not very potent comared with todays stuff. Sinsemilla was out there but rare - as was Columbian Gold and Panama Red. Then the VietNam guys were bringing in Thai stick. Those 3 were the best we could get, along with blonde bubble hash.

I started smoking around 1974, enjoyed the benfits for about 3 years. It chilled me out, I'd laugh my ass off and all was good. Then I smoked some funky stuff one night and developed paranoia and started getting bad headaches. I finally quit all together. I'm 67 now and still cant smoke it, even tried edibles. It still makes me paranoid and dumb as a rock. That was around the time Nixon started ordering military troops to spray the Mexican weed with a nasty chemical called Paraquat. It's highly toxic and can be deadly. It causes Parkinsons and plenty of other heath issues. Bad shit. Thank you, Tricky Dick. You prick.

Years later I started growing my own to see if I could use it and get the great benefits I used to get in my early days. Nope, it was still paranoid inducing and made me a zombie. I guess people just metabolize it differently and the toxic shit they spray on it don't help either. Now that I pissed some people off and especially growers, I'll end it here.

I'll stick with my oxy and k-pins and a beer or two. I wish I could enjoy a good bowl of weed, chill out and feel great but it don't do it for me. Most of my friends puff away and I'm pretty much jealous of them. But the paranoia just ain't worth it.

For some of us, MJ just isn't beneficial at all. It kinda sucks.
 
marcoman said:
Pot shops who sell their shitty weed are loaded with pesticides and toxic stuff. I'm sure other states are the same. For the big boy growers, it's all about profit. They do whatever they can to pull off a harvest and keep the money rolling in. I know plent of bigtime grow ops and it's digsuting what they use. I'll wait for any commercoal growrs to chime in and tell me I'm full of shit but they all do it, even the ones claiming it's "organic." Not to mention they like to fake the numbers of THC %.
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Don t sound good in NL, Weed being illegal. The country att was flooded with
Eastern Europe Weed, probably cheaper and as buying is 100% illegal for a dispensary.
And testing legally forbidden, politic s. Can t get any dumber right.

That Weed reacted with the Mercury when i had Amalgam filling s.
Freaky stuff, and a government who don t give a fuck about consumer s in NL.
But the state does accept the tax payed over selling a illegal tolerated product ?
marcoman said:
Here in CO, most shops list the chemicals they use and it's available to the customers. (I'm not sure if it's an enacted law hat they have to do but I'd assume it is as what grower would attach a paper to their weed showing all the shit they use on theor products. So what are you getting a buzz off of? Actual THC or toxic chemicals? probably a mix of both, sadly.
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Here some do to, although its illegal. Illegal to do customer health protection.
marcoman said:
Th paranoia issue? I smoked weed back in the 70's, Mexican brick weed mostly, full of seeds, mold and dirt, not very potent comared with todays stuff. Sinsemilla was out there but rare - as was Columbian Gold and Panama Red. Then the VietNam guys were bringing in Thai stick. Those 3 were the best we could get, along with blonde bubble hash.

I started smoking around 1974, enjoyed the benfits for about 3 years. It chilled me out, I'd laugh my ass off and all was good. Then I smoked some funky stuff one night and developed paranoia and started getting bad headaches. I finally quit all together. I'm 67 now and still cant smoke it, even tried edibles. It still makes me paranoid and dumb as a rock. That was around the time Nixon started ordering military troops to spray the Mexican weed with a nasty chemical called Paraquat. It's highly toxic and can be deadly. It causes Parkinsons and plenty of other heath issues. Bad shit. Thank you, Tricky Dick. You prick.

Years later I started growing my own to see if I could use it and get the great benefits I used to get in my early days. Nope, it was still paranoid inducing and made me a zombie. I guess people just metabolize it differently and the toxic shit they spray on it don't help either. Now that I pissed some people off and especially growers, I'll end it here.

I'll stick with my oxy and k-pins and a beer or two. I wish I could enjoy a good bowl of weed, chill out and feel great but it don't do it for me. Most of my friends puff away and I'm pretty much jealous of them. But the paranoia just ain't worth it.

For some of us, MJ just isn't beneficial at all. It kinda sucks.
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Its perfect for some and terror for other. I am in group one i can do anything while high.
Don t experience paranoia or anxiety, then again i don t get anxious facing my darkest fears too. So personal make up apparently.

Moroccan Hash is way less anxiety/ para prone ime.
They never took the CBD out or breeded high THC plants.
 
Cannabis, particularly THC, can trigger paranoia by overstimulating the brain's fear center (amygdala) via the endocannabinoid system.
 
I think it's a common side effect when your tolerance is low.
Sometimes smoking makes me paranoid. Not often, but sometimes.
I stop when that happens. Plus it's better for my budget.

I lived in a corner unit under a staircase in an apartment building when I started smoking.
I used to get mad paranoid during that time.
Because I can hear everything way better when I'm high.
So I'd hear people walking up and down the stairs, thinking it was knocks on my door.

And just for good measure sometimes I'd call out "Danny isn't here Mrs. Torrance!" while high to try to scare off the people I thought were at my door. Lol.
 
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