Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 9

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yeah. on the other end of that most people in this thread are complaining about the side effects.

invega usually helps people with schizophrenic voices the people don't like, but i hear they prescribe it for a lot of other stuff.. i don't really know. some anti-psychotic meds seem to help with my anxiety. i never had invega, but haldol shots don't really help my anxiety at all... maybe decreased anxiety is the reason some people like the drugs, stopping voices, it helps some people think clearer and not experience dellusions? i really don't know.. i feel like i read some stuff in these threads where the people that want to go off meds might not be thinking clearly, like the kid growing shrooms and calling his doctors to tell them he was.. the meds do different stuff to different people. maybe more meds will help, maybe more meds will make things worse for some people... it really depends on the person.
Yeah exactly. These high doses injections personally disgust me especially when person wasnt even psychotic but low dose seroquel is good if your really having hard time
 
Brother i know your still under stress from all of it but they cannot hospitalize you once you out of cto and not a danger to yourself or others trust me. Tell the parents about it and sue them. They trully evil people that should be responsible for this. Most of us needed good sleep some good talk from loving person and maybe little bit of seroquel BUT THEY FRY OUR BRAINS LIKE OUR BODY IS NOT OURS ITS DISGUSTING FUCK THEM
I'm very stressed , all I want in life is to travel and see my father in africa but I am so broke im out of money and constantly borrowing money from family. All my problems stem from money and its what made me go crazy 2 years ago. I seriously want to be able to work but invega destroyed my brain beyond repair literlly beyond repair. I pray to God I abstain from sin . Only thing keeping me sane is my online friends and my family whom i love dearly.
 
I'm very stressed , all I want in life is to travel and see my father in africa but I am so broke im out of money and constantly borrowing money from family. All my problems stem from money and its what made me go crazy 2 years ago. I seriously want to be able to work but invega destroyed my brain beyond repair literlly beyond repair. I pray to God I abstain from sin . Only thing keeping me sane is my online friends and my family whom i love dearly.
Beyond repair? Bro yesterday you said God will heal you. I believe he will. Inshallah. Pray and be kind to others. Karma is real
 
Yeah exactly. These high doses injections personally disgust me especially when person wasnt even psychotic but low dose seroquel is good if your really having hard time
yeah. i was on a pretty high dose of that and didn't like it.. even when i weened off it it was hard... i kind of like risperdal.. everyone is different.. i'm probably just gonna go with standard sleep meds eventually other than anti-psychotics. i smoke pot to sleep now and it doesn't make me psychotic or anything. i won't be able to keep smoking all the time when i move though.

meds can definitely help. everyone is just very different, so they experiment with different stuff. usually invega isn't even the first drug doctors try, so i'm kind of not sure what's going on with a lot of people in these threads. a lot of people saying they don't have schizophrenia or aren't psychotic... i've definitely been hospitalized more than i probably needed to be because i kept using drugs.. although the anti-psychotics and stopping drugs didn't really help me stop thinking i was being gang stalked, and i realized that it was all in my head when off meds and using drugs... some times people's minds just work in mysterious ways... they force these meds on people because it does help some people... a lot of the poeple i think are just getting scared into not acting out again though because they don't want to experience the side effects of anymore meds.
 
yeah. i was on a pretty high dose of that and didn't like it.. even when i weened off it it was hard... i kind of like risperdal.. everyone is different.. i'm probably just gonna go with standard sleep meds eventually other than anti-psychotics. i smoke pot to sleep now and it doesn't make me psychotic or anything. i won't be able to keep smoking all the time when i move though.

meds can definitely help. everyone is just very different, so they experiment with different stuff. usually invega isn't even the first drug doctors try, so i'm kind of not sure what's going on with a lot of people in these threads. a lot of people saying they don't have schizophrenia or aren't psychotic... i've definitely been hospitalized more than i probably needed to be because i kept using drugs.. although the anti-psychotics and stopping drugs didn't really help me stop thinking i was being gang stalked, and i realized that it was all in my head when off meds and using drugs... some times people's minds just work in mysterious ways... they force these meds on people because it does help some people... a lot of the poeple i think are just getting scared into not acting out again though because they don't want to experience the side effects of anymore meds.
Nice. Wdym by gang stalking? I seen some guy said it can lead to schizophrenia diagnosis. Can we call my narcissistic family abusing me and calling me names and making me the scapegoat a gang stalking?
 
Nice. Wdym by gang stalking? I seen some guy said it can lead to schizophrenia diagnosis. Can we call my narcissistic family abusing me and calling me names and making me the scapegoat a gang stalking?
Poor baby woe is me "my narcissistic family is abusing me" poor baby victim mindset mentality. Ahahahaha.
 
Nice. Wdym by gang stalking? I seen some guy said it can lead to schizophrenia diagnosis. Can we call my narcissistic family abusing me and calling me names and making me the scapegoat a gang stalking?
i don't know. maybe if it's not really happening.

i thought because i ordered lsd in the mail and was on social security that people found out at the post office and told the police.. i thought they were sending people to yell outside my house and the police were having my father bang on the wall to make me think i was hallucinating so i'd stop taking acid... i did it for years with out any problems geting it from friends, but when i went to the mail, i just couldn't believe they actually sent it, so i got really paranoid and thought people were stalking me. it actually went on for a few years... i got addicted to ordering it cause i was like "Fuck them for trying to stop me. i'm gonna just keep doing what i'm doing." i thought they were watching my house on an x ray camera for a while too.. i realized still while taking the lsd through my inner mind that i've been using to think with all my life starting to predict every time i'd have a hallucination. i realized that it was all in my head and everything just kind of came together that i was suffering from schizophrenia... that's why i'm not really into forcing people to take meds. i thought they were just stopping yelling at me to keep me on meds. living like that doesn't make any sense.
 
Nice. Wdym by gang stalking? I seen some guy said it can lead to schizophrenia diagnosis. Can we call my narcissistic family abusing me and calling me names and making me the scapegoat a gang stalking?
i wrote that if it's not happening it would be gang stalking.. i meant to write that you would be paranoid or dellusional about being gang stalked if it's not really happening... if that is something that is happening to you, i really don't know if it would be considered gang stalking or not... with "gang stalking" and "mk ultra victim" a lot of people are making their own definitions now days.
 
Fun thread. Largely on point.

—-

“i haven't slept

> be luigi nicholas mangione
> born 1998, maryland
> family is loaded—grandfather built golf resorts and luxury clubs
> grows up in towson, goes to elite private school (gilman)
> $40k/year tuition but worth every penny—valedictorian 2016
> classmates describe him as “inventive, courageous, charming”
> ivy league material, gets into upenn
> studies computer science and math, minors in philosophy (red flag?)
> co-founds a game dev club, works on ai competitions (halite iii)
> perfect chad: handsome, athletic, ambitious
> graduates in 2020 with a bs/ms combo—dream life unlocked
> lands data engineer job at truecar, moves to san francisco

> 2021: cracks start forming
> gets into surfing accident while on vacation in hawaii
> chronic low back pain (clbp) becomes his entire personality
> can’t work out, can’t sit, can’t live like a normal chad anymore
> goes through the healthcare system hellscape—insurance denies surgery
> spends on specialists, treatments fail, pain keeps getting worse
> resentment grows, starts ranting about “parasite healthcare execs”

> gets weirdly into niche books:
>> “crooked: outwitting the back pain industry”
>> “back mechanic” by stuart mcgill
>> ted kaczynski’s *industrial society and its future* (4 stars on goodreads)
> posts online about banning porn (“toxic masculinity is under attack”)
> follows erowid, explores psychedelics for “self-healing”
> tweets get spicier, but no one pays much attention

> 2022: goes on an ayahuasca retreat
> desperate for relief, looking for answers beyond medicine
> claims he “saw God” during the trip but also fought off shadowy entities
>> describes these as “6D demons” trying to implant ideas into his mind
>> later tweets cryptic things like:
>>> “not all pain is physical”
>>> “they feed on fear, but you can push them back if you see their shape”
>>> “healthcare is only a part of the cage”
> friends think he’s having a spiritual awakening, but vibe gets darker
> deletes most of his old tweets, only posts sporadically after this
> by 2023, he’s fully withdrawn, but *something about him seems different*
>> doesn’t talk about the demons anymore, like the memory was scrubbed

> 2023: leaves truecar, moves to hawaii permanently
> broke, depressed, living off savings, spiraling quietly
> becomes a ghost online—posts less, deletes a lot of old tweets
> but what’s left feels curated, too on-brand (weird foreshadowing?)

> december 4, 2024: unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson assassinated
> shot outside hilton midtown hotel in broad daylight
> december 9: luigi arrested at mcdonald’s in altoona, pennsylvania
> found with:
>> 3d-printed ghost gun (zero serial numbers, spooky tech vibes)
>> silencer
>> fake ids (plural, why?)
>> handwritten manifesto blaming healthcare execs for “killing americans”

---

> here’s where it gets *weird*

> the manifesto:
>> calls ceos “parasites” and “powerful abusers”
>> apologizes for “any trauma caused” but says “this had to happen”
>> specifically names unitedhealthcare as the enemy of the people
> but... it reads like something out of a hollywood movie:
>> too polished, too coherent for a supposed back-pain-ridden maniac
>> no spelling errors, perfect grammar, emotional yet calculated—sus

> timeline doesn’t add up:
>> luigi’s last known address was in hawaii. how does he suddenly turn up in nyc?
>> uses a fake id to check into a hostel near the crime scene—how convenient
>> goes *from hawaii to nyc to pennsylvania* in a matter of days
>> gets caught at a mcdonald’s after a nationwide manhunt. really?

> ghost gun raises red flags:
>> why would a guy like luigi—ivy grad, tech-savvy, spotless record—print a gun?
>> ghost guns are perfect deep state props: untraceable, terrifying, buzzword-worthy
>> feels like a setup to push the “diy domestic terrorism” narrative

> his social media suddenly blows up:
>> goodreads reviews of ted kaczynski go viral after the arrest
>> tweets about healthcare and porn resurface, painting him as a “radicalized genius”
>> but the timing feels off—like it was *meant* to create this image

> friends and family shocked:
>> “he was a good kid,” “never showed signs of violence,” “always so bright”
>> doesn’t fit the profile of a guy who’d snap and assassinate a ceo

---

> it’s a psyop

> luigi is the perfect recruit:
>> ivy league pedigree = media catnip, relatable to both elites and normies
>> chronic pain = universal sympathy, emotional hook for the masses
>> anti-healthcare sentiment = taps into leftist rage against capitalism
>> manosphere vibes = taints the right with “toxic masculinity” optics
>> erowid + psychedelics = mkultra callback, easy to manipulate mindset

> the 6D demon fight was part of the setup:
>> ayahuasca trip wasn’t self-healing—it was an astral battleground
>> cia or another deep-state group planted the entities to “break” his spiritual defenses
>> they didn’t just want to brainwash him—they wanted to hollow him out completely
>> the fight left cracks in his psyche, making him easier to manipulate afterward
>> his cryptic tweets (“they feed on fear”) were cries for help before they fully got to him

> by the time of the ceo murder, he’s fully under their control.
>> either the demons broke him, or the deep state leveraged the battle to finalize his reprogramming

> the actual hit? not luigi’s doing:
>> cia or mossad carried out the assassination (silencer screams pro job)
>> luigi’s memories implanted to make him the fall guy
>> ghost gun planted as evidence to tie him to the crime

---

> why this psyop now?
> because right vs left was collapsing:
>> trump united silicon valley libertarians, populists, unions, and vc bros
>> woke politics were dying, and no one cared about identity battles anymore
>> deep state needed a new cultural fracture to maintain control

> solution: a class war
>> kill a ceo, blame a relatable radical, watch the chaos unfold
>> left: “luigi is a hero fighting corporate greed!”
>> right: “he’s a manosphere nutjob demonizing capitalism!”
>> the coalition fractures—rich vs poor takes center stage

> deeper goal:
>> scare silicon valley vc into compliance (don’t back anti-establishment movements)
>> pit labor unions and working-class populists against tech elites
>> distract from actual healthcare corruption with calls for more surveillance

---

> but the cracks are obvious:
>> manifesto reads like a marketing pitch for a class war—too perfect
>> how does a supposed radical assassin *not* have an escape plan?
>> ghost gun is too convenient—like it was meant to terrify normies
>> social media timeline feels curated—where’s the raw, messy history?

---

> the psyop isn’t just about luigi
> it’s about sending a message:
>> “we control the narrative, and we can turn anyone into a villain or a hero”
>> “don’t question the system, or this could be you”

---

> luigi didn’t kill brian thompson
> the deep state did

> 3/10 psyop—lazy execution, but it’s working

> don’t fall for it”

-@interintellectus

——

My quick take:

Very low probability Luigi killed Brian Thompson.

This had many signs of a professional hit not a disgruntled amateur. The assassin appeared to know exactly when and where the CEO would be and was very experienced handling his gun when it jammed.

Why was Brian Thompson really killed? As this is likely the cover story.

This level of intricate pre-planned cover narrative is a hallmark of intelligence agencies.

How did they get Luigi as the fall guy? When did he get sucked into the deep state mind control blackmail apparatus?

Is this cover narrative actually meant to spin up into a larger new cultural operation? Or just an elaborate distraction?

Both scenarios are interesting. The former we will have to wait and see if something does get spun up.

If it’s the latter why have such an elaborate cover story? The real reason for the killing must be very compelling and extra important to hide.
 
Fun thread. Largely on point.

—-

“i haven't slept

> be luigi nicholas mangione
> born 1998, maryland
> family is loaded—grandfather built golf resorts and luxury clubs
> grows up in towson, goes to elite private school (gilman)
> $40k/year tuition but worth every penny—valedictorian 2016
> classmates describe him as “inventive, courageous, charming”
> ivy league material, gets into upenn
> studies computer science and math, minors in philosophy (red flag?)
> co-founds a game dev club, works on ai competitions (halite iii)
> perfect chad: handsome, athletic, ambitious
> graduates in 2020 with a bs/ms combo—dream life unlocked
> lands data engineer job at truecar, moves to san francisco

> 2021: cracks start forming
> gets into surfing accident while on vacation in hawaii
> chronic low back pain (clbp) becomes his entire personality
> can’t work out, can’t sit, can’t live like a normal chad anymore
> goes through the healthcare system hellscape—insurance denies surgery
> spends on specialists, treatments fail, pain keeps getting worse
> resentment grows, starts ranting about “parasite healthcare execs”

> gets weirdly into niche books:
>> “crooked: outwitting the back pain industry”
>> “back mechanic” by stuart mcgill
>> ted kaczynski’s *industrial society and its future* (4 stars on goodreads)
> posts online about banning porn (“toxic masculinity is under attack”)
> follows erowid, explores psychedelics for “self-healing”
> tweets get spicier, but no one pays much attention

> 2022: goes on an ayahuasca retreat
> desperate for relief, looking for answers beyond medicine
> claims he “saw God” during the trip but also fought off shadowy entities
>> describes these as “6D demons” trying to implant ideas into his mind
>> later tweets cryptic things like:
>>> “not all pain is physical”
>>> “they feed on fear, but you can push them back if you see their shape”
>>> “healthcare is only a part of the cage”
> friends think he’s having a spiritual awakening, but vibe gets darker
> deletes most of his old tweets, only posts sporadically after this
> by 2023, he’s fully withdrawn, but *something about him seems different*
>> doesn’t talk about the demons anymore, like the memory was scrubbed

> 2023: leaves truecar, moves to hawaii permanently
> broke, depressed, living off savings, spiraling quietly
> becomes a ghost online—posts less, deletes a lot of old tweets
> but what’s left feels curated, too on-brand (weird foreshadowing?)

> december 4, 2024: unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson assassinated
> shot outside hilton midtown hotel in broad daylight
> december 9: luigi arrested at mcdonald’s in altoona, pennsylvania
> found with:
>> 3d-printed ghost gun (zero serial numbers, spooky tech vibes)
>> silencer
>> fake ids (plural, why?)
>> handwritten manifesto blaming healthcare execs for “killing americans”

---

> here’s where it gets *weird*

> the manifesto:
>> calls ceos “parasites” and “powerful abusers”
>> apologizes for “any trauma caused” but says “this had to happen”
>> specifically names unitedhealthcare as the enemy of the people
> but... it reads like something out of a hollywood movie:
>> too polished, too coherent for a supposed back-pain-ridden maniac
>> no spelling errors, perfect grammar, emotional yet calculated—sus

> timeline doesn’t add up:
>> luigi’s last known address was in hawaii. how does he suddenly turn up in nyc?
>> uses a fake id to check into a hostel near the crime scene—how convenient
>> goes *from hawaii to nyc to pennsylvania* in a matter of days
>> gets caught at a mcdonald’s after a nationwide manhunt. really?

> ghost gun raises red flags:
>> why would a guy like luigi—ivy grad, tech-savvy, spotless record—print a gun?
>> ghost guns are perfect deep state props: untraceable, terrifying, buzzword-worthy
>> feels like a setup to push the “diy domestic terrorism” narrative

> his social media suddenly blows up:
>> goodreads reviews of ted kaczynski go viral after the arrest
>> tweets about healthcare and porn resurface, painting him as a “radicalized genius”
>> but the timing feels off—like it was *meant* to create this image

> friends and family shocked:
>> “he was a good kid,” “never showed signs of violence,” “always so bright”
>> doesn’t fit the profile of a guy who’d snap and assassinate a ceo

---

> it’s a psyop

> luigi is the perfect recruit:
>> ivy league pedigree = media catnip, relatable to both elites and normies
>> chronic pain = universal sympathy, emotional hook for the masses
>> anti-healthcare sentiment = taps into leftist rage against capitalism
>> manosphere vibes = taints the right with “toxic masculinity” optics
>> erowid + psychedelics = mkultra callback, easy to manipulate mindset

> the 6D demon fight was part of the setup:
>> ayahuasca trip wasn’t self-healing—it was an astral battleground
>> cia or another deep-state group planted the entities to “break” his spiritual defenses
>> they didn’t just want to brainwash him—they wanted to hollow him out completely
>> the fight left cracks in his psyche, making him easier to manipulate afterward
>> his cryptic tweets (“they feed on fear”) were cries for help before they fully got to him

> by the time of the ceo murder, he’s fully under their control.
>> either the demons broke him, or the deep state leveraged the battle to finalize his reprogramming

> the actual hit? not luigi’s doing:
>> cia or mossad carried out the assassination (silencer screams pro job)
>> luigi’s memories implanted to make him the fall guy
>> ghost gun planted as evidence to tie him to the crime

---

> why this psyop now?
> because right vs left was collapsing:
>> trump united silicon valley libertarians, populists, unions, and vc bros
>> woke politics were dying, and no one cared about identity battles anymore
>> deep state needed a new cultural fracture to maintain control

> solution: a class war
>> kill a ceo, blame a relatable radical, watch the chaos unfold
>> left: “luigi is a hero fighting corporate greed!”
>> right: “he’s a manosphere nutjob demonizing capitalism!”
>> the coalition fractures—rich vs poor takes center stage

> deeper goal:
>> scare silicon valley vc into compliance (don’t back anti-establishment movements)
>> pit labor unions and working-class populists against tech elites
>> distract from actual healthcare corruption with calls for more surveillance

---

> but the cracks are obvious:
>> manifesto reads like a marketing pitch for a class war—too perfect
>> how does a supposed radical assassin *not* have an escape plan?
>> ghost gun is too convenient—like it was meant to terrify normies
>> social media timeline feels curated—where’s the raw, messy history?

---

> the psyop isn’t just about luigi
> it’s about sending a message:
>> “we control the narrative, and we can turn anyone into a villain or a hero”
>> “don’t question the system, or this could be you”

---

> luigi didn’t kill brian thompson
> the deep state did

> 3/10 psyop—lazy execution, but it’s working

> don’t fall for it”

-@interintellectus

——

My quick take:

Very low probability Luigi killed Brian Thompson.

This had many signs of a professional hit not a disgruntled amateur. The assassin appeared to know exactly when and where the CEO would be and was very experienced handling his gun when it jammed.

Why was Brian Thompson really killed? As this is likely the cover story.

This level of intricate pre-planned cover narrative is a hallmark of intelligence agencies.

How did they get Luigi as the fall guy? When did he get sucked into the deep state mind control blackmail apparatus?

Is this cover narrative actually meant to spin up into a larger new cultural operation? Or just an elaborate distraction?

Both scenarios are interesting. The former we will have to wait and see if something does get spun up.

If it’s the latter why have such an elaborate cover story? The real reason for the killing must be very compelling and extra important to hide.
This forum is about invega you constantly make a mockery of it talking about everything but invega.
 
This forum is about invega you constantly make a mockery of it talking about everything but invega.
Reading good funny meme describing whats going in on earth will be soothing as you will not constantly ruminate about invega. Stop whining
 
This forum is about invega you constantly make a mockery of it talking about everything but invega.
a lot of the posters in this thread seem to only post in this thread and no where else on the site... they can post anywhere.. there are other threads about that guy they could contribute to, or if they had a specific thing they want to discuss, they can start a thread in one of the politics forums... i feel like that could derail the thread, but i get why they posted. he was mentally ill. i don't know if he tried anti-psychotics (haven't heard that) or if he should've been on anti-psychotics.... maybe they want to make another thread though... probably best this one stays in the subject of how to deal with invega symptoms and people's stories about why they are on it... a lot of other posters that don't read this thread would want to discuss that news story definitely. there's definitely a thread. i don't know if it mentioned him being a psyop... again i'm thnking others that don't read this thread would be interested if it were posted in a different part of the site.
 
Reading good funny meme describing whats going in on earth will be soothing as you will not constantly ruminate about invega. Stop whining
Go get an invega injection. Come back and speak to us then. No one cares about your take on the above lol
 
a lot of the posters in this thread seem to only post in this thread and no where else on the site... they can post anywhere.. there are other threads about that guy they could contribute to, or if they had a specific thing they want to discuss, they can start a thread in one of the politics forums... i feel like that could derail the thread, but i get why they posted. he was mentally ill. i don't know if he tried anti-psychotics (haven't heard that) or if he should've been on anti-psychotics.... maybe they want to make another thread though... probably best this one stays in the subject of how to deal with invega symptoms and people's stories about why they are on it... a lot of other posters that don't read this thread would want to discuss that news story definitely. there's definitely a thread.
Sorry haha posted because its so fkn good
 
Sorry haha posted because its so fkn good
yeah. i have all sorts of theories on that guy and what happened.

i'm thinking they let it happen to see how many people will side with him killing some one for a political agenda, and they are just surveying what people write on the net... i don't know exactly what psyop is, but maybe that's something similar. who knows what's really going on with stuff that happens on the news.
 
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