Stimulants What ever happened to flakka? (Alpha-PVP)

[User145667]

Flakka was never for the people using it, it was for the demons who lust for posession of a material body.

You really ain't lying bro.

I remember this back in 2015-16 cause I lived 45 minutes north of Tally and I too saw veteran crackheads forget what crack even was. Kinda cool hearing someone else with a similar experience on that subject, cause I have been saying that as a testament to how powerful Flakka was for years.

Shit was in everything though. They cut the meth, the coke, and even the molly with it (although if we must have active cuts in our drugs, I'd still take Flakka over Fentanyl any day of the week).

In fact, my retarded ass hometown of Bainbridge, GA started selling the shit as "Molly" -- I guess because of the bad and infamous rep that the name "Flakka" had begun to receive in town...as in, the retards selling it actually pretended like MDMA Molly never existed (Bainbridge never had real MDMA anyways, at least not during my "hey day"), and ny extension pretended that a-pvp (and later a-php) was itself the definitive drug known as Molly; being that the effects are hardly alike in anyway, it just seemed like they tried to "retcon" Molly in my town, I always thought ot was very weord and stupid. Anyways, that name later evolved into "Jolly" around town (which I kinda liked that name, dumb as it was).

Anyways, the rush from smoking that shit makes crack look like caffeine lol. It was insane. Hated those times and yet loved them (in a sick kind of way) all at the same time. Glad they're over, but Flak gave the most unique vibe to it, for better or for worse. Very rememberable drug and very powerful [and dark] euphoria, that's for sure. It seems fond and nostalgic to me now, but I know that is because my brain associates that time with unreal levels of dopamine --- but in all honesty, the better part of me knows and remember that it was pure and total hell. Ugh. Our brains just love to delete the bad and save and exaggerate the good of past events and drug experiences are no different.

I would describe the drug as "sick pleasure" yet also "Crystalized Schizophrenia." It's the perfect mixture of fear and pleasure, and it's aphrodisiac nature put even meth to shame. But man dude, the paranoia from this drug is unreal. Everyone and their dog was either an agent, a voodoo witch doctor, or a reptilian lmao.

And now, ever since that era, all amphetamine substances seem give me an immediate, Schizophrenia-like psychosis that starts far before I've even lost one night of sleep, and meth is especially bad about this now. It's a big reason why I no longer use meth, so I guess there's that.

I feel like the Flakka flipped a switch in my dopamine system (or trained my neurons to react a certain way) that now causes me to react Schizophrenically to high levels of dopamine, whereas meth and speed in the past did not effect me that way in the past; it only started effecting me that way after my days of Flakka abuse, so I assume the Flakka (and/or my introduction to IVing Meth during that same period) that flipped said "switch" in my brain.

Anyways, "Devil's Drug" was also a name for aPVP, and it most certainly was that. It's like smoking Satan's toenails. In fact, that's a good description of the taste, come to think of it. Said taste ranged anywhere from "Zombie flesh" to an unearthly "sickly sweet" flavor. The shit also had a weird Voodoo-y, "Spooky Town" vibe to it, and felt very demonic indeed. Being on that shit is what got me believing in the devil and that evil was realer than real (moral realism), instead of it just being some subjective opinion. The shit's far more demonic than anything else I've, and I've tried LOTS of drugs -- for better or for worse (mostly for worse lol).

But I'm rambling.

 

[higherconciousness]

Is a-pvp still floating around out there? I found a source that supposedly has it, but i’m dubious.

 

[izo]

Rarely sold in the darknet nowadays but nowhere Else. Analogs of it are also Hard to find meanwhile. A-php and a-pihp are both banned in nl by now. You rarely only find a-pcyp now.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Not in NL atm. Banned the replacements, which i won t advocate just state.
They got MD-PHiP, 5-DBFPV aka [according too the vendor] 4-MDPV, a-PHiP and MF-PHP.

So the reason i disliked em was their re-uptake vs reuptake/ releaser action. I hate Coke an MethylPhenidate.
Amphetamines are more my alley, not abusing em really any more.
But never got Coke after my first Amphetamine experience.

Especially taking in regard the price/ duration/ effects, but had the same with MPH and MDPV.
Last one is longlasting oral, still didn t fit me.

My Granny always warns me for US drug rages. So for Crystal Meth and Flakka.
And i have to exlplain these substances never got popular overhere.
Its just popular for US news items. She doesn t get US drug use is not EU drug use.
And EU is not NL.

US Meth/ Crack/ Fentanyl laced Heroin ed.
NL Amphetamine, base Coke [ammonia] and Heroin.
As if i would consider one of em. Dextro-Amphetamine ok, but thats prescribed.

She is old and caring but lil knowledge about the simplicity for me to get these substances.
Would i want it.

 

[higherconciousness]

Rarely sold in the darknet nowadays but nowhere Else. Analogs of it are also Hard to find meanwhile. A-php and a-pihp are both banned in nl by now. You rarely only find a-pcyp now.

I did not enjoy a-pcyp. I was pleasantly surprised by a-pihp. I swear, pyros occupy the deepest recesses of my mind. Some of the most addicting compounds i’ve played with. Nothing beats waking up, reaching towards my nightstand and taking a giant rip. Kicks that morning right off. Ah, when i think about it, I can still taste that sweet sweet MDPV.

 

[Dreamflyer]

Didn't they ban it in the US after that guy was accused of eating someone's face on it???

 

[definitelynotanofficier]

Didn't they ban it in the US after that guy was accused of eating someone's face on it???

Yep.... Despite the horrific incident (along with other similar incidents) later been found out to not involve any rcs or even drugs for that matter, that didn't stop people from vomiting excuses or dumb shit they picked out from the crevice of their ass crack. Eventually leading up to people banning the cathinones anyway along with its many analog cousins.

There's still people to this day who genuinely believe in that shit without questions, it's honestly ridiculous man.

 

[Halif2]

Very rememberable drug and very powerful [and dark] euphoria, that's for sure

It's been over 10 years since I last smoked a-PVP through glassware but I occasionally still dream about it.

The dreams suck because it's always some variation of me finding some powder and putting it in the pipe but the lighter not working or the pipe breaks or something. The dreams are characterised by frustration, which is actually pretty apt because back in the bad ol' days when I was fiending on it I could never get satisfied for more than 10 minutes or so and then I'd want to do more.

It's the most fiendish drug I've ever tried and personally I found it more "enjoyable" and addictive than MDPV which I know a lot of people preferred to a-PVP.

It seems fond and nostalgic to me now, but I know that is because my brain associates that time with unreal levels of dopamine --- but in all honesty, the better part of me knows and remember that it was pure and total hell. Ugh. Our brains just love to delete the bad and save and exaggerate the good of past events and drug experiences are no different.

So true. A part of my brain still craves it but I remember those drawn out binges were a total nightmare. No sleep, strong auditory hallucinations, paranoia, and the overwhelming urge to do more, more, more.

 

[Dreamflyer]

The dreams suck because it's always some variation of me finding some powder and putting it in the pipe but the lighter not working or the pipe breaks or something.

Haha, I still have those dreams about a variety of drugs, even ones that I haven't done in over 20 years.

In mine, it usually turns out to be something non-narcotic when I look closer. Like, cocaine becomes table salt or oxy becomes tic-tacs!!!

 

[AlisaKirireshkina]

Hey, bluelight. I'm the guy with the thread who's done multiple Ibogaine floods and I'm still waiting on my rootbark to come to microdose. I'm kind of struggling and I hope it makes it here in time. I will keep that thread updated, just in case it could potentially help someone else out of the same mental hell that I'm in. All I ask is that whatever you believe in, can you please send some positivity my way? I don't really want to die yet and I'm just getting to talk to you wonderful people.

Anyway, has anyone here ever experimented with Alpha-PVP aka "Flakka"? It appeared all over the streets of South Florida when I was doing one of my rehab tours down there and I actually first heard of it in jail where people were smoking it in there.

People in the hoods down there were putting it inside cigarettes and smoking it and I saw 30+ year crack smokers put down crack and become "Flakka heads". I, of course ended up shooting some up but it made me nearly suicidal one time as I remember people pulling me off the train tracks. I was also homeless for a while at that point though. My memory of it is somewhat vague at this point.

The whole thing was very bizarre and then the stuff just kind of disappeared. I mean, this stuff was everywhere down there for a while. Dirt cheap, like $5 bags. It seemed to really explode around 2015. The thing that is weird to me is that this stuff was all over the streets down there practically overnight and then it just completely disappeared. I haven't been in Florida in years but everyone I've talked to down there said that they haven't seen or heard about it in years either. It was everywhere in 2015 and there were news stories about it and you'd even see people freaking out on the streets regularly on it. I did see a couple stories on some big busts but still..

Really brings out the conspiracy theorist in me. Could this possibly have been released in a more modern MK Ultra type approach to study people's behavior on it? It all seemed to happen so quickly. I'm interested to hear what some of you think. There's bound to be people on here that witnessed what I did down there. I probably even know a bunch of you lol.

In Russia and Ukraine, this is one of the most popular drugs, along with 4MMC. In the Netherlands I saw a couple of advertisements for the sale of this substance, but I consider it more of a psychotropic weapon than a drug

 

[higherconciousness]

Well I should be getting a very small amount of a-pvp tomorrow or the next day. The price was ridiculous, but it’s actually on its way according to informed delivery (last time i got scammed when I attempted to obtain some). The vendor can be a bit difficult, but overall legit with his products. I’m cautiously optimistic. I’ll provide an update when possible. Wish me luck.

 

[Halif2]

Wish me luck.

Good luck. A "very small" amount is the best way to go with a-PVP.

The best times I had with it was when I only had 200mg of (essentially pure) powder because I wasn't able to get into too much trouble before running out. The worst times were when I bought 5 grams of the stuff thinking "this'll last forever!".

You will be absolutely shocked and in disbelief when I tell you that it did not, in fact, last forever. What will last forever are the (admittedly hazy) memories of the horrors of those binges. I'd take large amounts of benzos to try to break the binge and get to sleep but I could not stop smoking the stuff and it'd just blast through the benzos' effects. oh yeah and apparently those dreams about using it will almost last forever. It just burns a hole in your reward system which no amount of stuff will ever fill - luckily the after effects were not permanent.

I'm sure you are very aware of all this, but start with a very low dose. If it's the real deal and you haven't had it for ages, it's going to hit hard.

You vaping/smoking it?

Damn... I'm actually a little envious. Despite everything I would love to get my hands on a tiny little bit, for old times sake.

 

[higherconciousness]

Good luck. A "very small" amount is the best way to go with a-PVP.

The best times I had with it was when I only had 200mg of (essentially pure) powder because I wasn't able to get into too much trouble before running out. The worst times were when I bought 5 grams of the stuff thinking "this'll last forever!".

You will be absolutely shocked and in disbelief when I tell you that it did not, in fact, last forever. What will last forever are the (admittedly hazy) memories of the horrors of those binges. I'd take large amounts of benzos to try to break the binge and get to sleep but I could not stop smoking the stuff and it'd just blast through the benzos' effects. oh yeah and apparently those dreams about using it will almost last forever. It just burns a hole in your reward system which no amount of stuff will ever fill - luckily the after effects were not permanent.

I'm sure you are very aware of all this, but start with a very low dose. If it's the real deal and you haven't had it for ages, it's going to hit hard.

You vaping/smoking it?

Damn... I'm actually a little envious. Despite everything I would love to get my hands on a tiny little bit, for old times sake.

Well, a bit of an update. My source got derailed for over a week for reasons I said wouldn’t discuss but just use your imagination. What would happen to you, if you received vast quantities of the highest quality PVP?

So I never got it and he sent a refund, but apparently he gifted me a free half gram and I discovered it in my mailbox yesterday. I had already used a decent amount of amphetamine sulfate that morning and I know you’re not supposed to mix releasers with inhibitors, but in my head, I was like it’s been about five hours since my last dose of amphetamine. So I put Tiny amount in the OB and try it. I didn’t feel much, but I also didn’t feel any change in heart rate or any other negative indicators.

So I take a larger hit than I meant to and it automatically caused some serious palpitations and anxiety. I waited another couple hours and tried another hit. This time it went a little better, still some palpitations and anxiety though.

I basically repeated this process over and over and now I’ve been up all night. Feeling like I wasted it. Cause I mean, my dopamine was already shot from all the amphetamine I’ve been using prior that week. But to not just wait until the next day and use it without any amphetamine in my system was completely idiotic yet somewhat predictable of me

 

[aag]

A-pvp is still available in Poland.

 

[higherconciousness]

A-pvp is still available in Poland.

Well it’s available somewhere because I’ve been smoking it all day yesterday until now. Wherever my source gets his PvP it’s of the highest purity. His chemical analysis forms showed it to be 99% pure, well when rounded up by 0.2%. It’s the cleanest looking powder I’ve ever seen. Like fresh powder snow that shimmers in the sunlight. Had a pretty rough time when using it, but that was my own fault for being impatient and vaping it after having took 75mg of amphetamine sulfate earlier yesterday morning. I gotta write my heart an apology letter or something. Overall 9/10 for experience, minus 1 for the times I thought i was on the verge of a heart attack every other hit.

Okay took last hit. I took 1200mg of NAC, 2 gram of glycine, magnesium threonate, fish oil, Coq10, vit B, and clonidine 30 min ago. This combo works beautifully for recovery and the NAC will nullify any more doses I attempt to take.

I also reconstituted 2 out of 3 of my new peptide stack. I bought BPC-157, TB-500, and GHK-Cu. I’m weary of “bro science” (I dislike that term, but can’t think of another word), but these 3 peptides have a fair amount of research on them and appear to have the highest safety profile. Unlike SARMs, that have clearly caused the
Very same issues they claimed made them safer than steroids.

Anyways, I’m thinking of starting the TB-500 in conjunction with GHK-Cu. I’m apprehensive about the BPC, as I’ve read many reports that it blunts the effects of all drugs. Unfortunately that’s unironically the best one cellular recovery and fatty liver disease. Once i finish this massive package i just got. Itll be break time.

 

[higherconciousness]

Okay, the NAC did not prevent me from taking another hit. It did delay time in between hit for 5 hour or so which is not insubstantial.

 

[GTComnander]

Flakka was never for the people using it, it was for the demons who lust for posession of a material body.

Hello
This post made me register in the forum.
I had really huge dramas coming from smoking “meth”, since I was in the Netherlands, and as a immigrant, I did not have really good contacts so the shit I could find to smoke were adulterants a 98% of the time. I remember getting bags (50-200€) that were completely horrible substances that made me even go to a psychiatric center.

After I moved back to Spain, a guy I met partying offered me apvp and wow. Simply WOOOOOW. Now reading the AutoTripper post, i realize what i experienced that time i tried apvp.

The history is, this guy I met, gave me some puffs (in Spain people don’t usually offer drugs as we don’t have high income xd) and after an epic night partying and with its afterparty of 2 days, invited me to his house to stay a week as i wasnt in my hometown. Somehow i didn’t understand at that moment… but reading about demonic posesion make me realize that we are motherfucking connected by energies.

The core of the history is … when we went to his house, i expected to have a hardcore sex session as usual, but instead, he simply motivated me to smoke more and more
In my mind, the wishes of having sex disappeared, and the high turned from party mood to a intelectual high where I could understand things that were out of my hand (I was 21 YO, never went to university) I could understand what were written in advanced university books, I mean, I don’t know how but the previous knowledge needed to understand a 4th grade career, I simply knew like if I studied and worked on it for long hand I still remember it, applied it to my normal life)
That was the beggining. When this guy left the house a day after for work, I stayed there and I had like 0,5g for myself.
I remember being sitting in the wc, no phone or any distraction… I had like an hallucination but it wasn’t visible… something happened that when the rush was coming from the puff I took, I was sitting in the wc and I could “see” and “manipulate” energy (I did not see nothing, it was like something was there as energy)
How to explain that with my low English level, what I had in my hands was a triangle, that was “solid” in some way, and I just played with it, making it bigger and smaller, turning it around, changing its “color”… idk how to explain
Then I was like okey I can do something with this… I took another puff and then WWOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW My head was clear, I invoked the triangle again and then I just tried to “open” it… And I did it. The triangle turned to be like a energy flow where I was like on the side of a river that was flowing trough my hands, in the middle of the triangle. It was magical and at the same time, scary in some way. I mean scary because I always overthink a lot of things (example: real origin of the Covid)
After that day… I just have a knowledge source that after reading demonic things related to apvp , I now understand were it comes from.
I know I don’t explain myself so well, but I never told this to anyone
So what I mean, whenever I have a question about anything that comes to my mind, I get the answer.

The reason I tell this to a random forum is because I had huge paranoias from thoughts coming when I wasn’t high on nothing (I even stopped drinking coffee) This alpha thing happened 5 years ago.

Nowadays, everything I thought was my paranoias
(Example: groups of globalistic mafias were invading Europe, Covid was a money laundering and business self expropriating tactic, people being cloned on public TV) everything is confirmed.

Wow I’m feeling so relieved, since if I just said this 5 years ago, I would now stay kidnaped somewhere in a psycho center being forced to take diazepam 1 mg each 8 hours when I am 1,9 m tall and fat as hell.

Ok guys if anyone did read my post, I will ask…
If this guy say people are possessed by demons when taking alpha and others in this thread confirm it … am I the devil ? That gets the knowledge of all these demons ?
Or they are not strong enough to access an common knowledge as I did with 21y and 0 studies?
Anyone else agrees that we can connect our souls with Alpha? Have anyone felt that with any drug?

Btw, send me bags betch

 

[Esperighanto]

If this guy say people are possessed by demons when taking alpha and others in this thread confirm it … am I the devil ? That gets the knowledge of all these demons ?

You mentioned English isn't your native language, so it's likely important to clarify that the guy who mentioned it seemed like people were possessed by demons was saying that as a figure of speech, not a literal statement. You're no less of a normal person for having consumed A-PVP, or any other drug for that matter. The "soul connection" feeling was and still is commonly reported from certain cathinones such as A-PVP, MDPV, and high doses of NEP or NEH (Hexen). I suspect it comes from stimulant psychosis overlapping with the somewhat empathogenic nature of the drugs, but I'm not certain.

 

[AutoTripper]

Hello
This post made me register in the forum.
I had really huge dramas coming from smoking “meth”, since I was in the Netherlands, and as a immigrant, I did not have really good contacts so the shit I could find to smoke were adulterants a 98% of the time. I remember getting bags (50-200€) that were completely horrible substances that made me even go to a psychiatric center.

After I moved back to Spain, a guy I met partying offered me apvp and wow. Simply WOOOOOW. Now reading the AutoTripper post, i realize what i experienced that time i tried apvp.

The history is, this guy I met, gave me some puffs (in Spain people don’t usually offer drugs as we don’t have high income xd) and after an epic night partying and with its afterparty of 2 days, invited me to his house to stay a week as i wasnt in my hometown. Somehow i didn’t understand at that moment… but reading about demonic posesion make me realize that we are motherfucking connected by energies.

The core of the history is … when we went to his house, i expected to have a hardcore sex session as usual, but instead, he simply motivated me to smoke more and more
In my mind, the wishes of having sex disappeared, and the high turned from party mood to a intelectual high where I could understand things that were out of my hand (I was 21 YO, never went to university) I could understand what were written in advanced university books, I mean, I don’t know how but the previous knowledge needed to understand a 4th grade career, I simply knew like if I studied and worked on it for long hand I still remember it, applied it to my normal life)
That was the beggining. When this guy left the house a day after for work, I stayed there and I had like 0,5g for myself.
I remember being sitting in the wc, no phone or any distraction… I had like an hallucination but it wasn’t visible… something happened that when the rush was coming from the puff I took, I was sitting in the wc and I could “see” and “manipulate” energy (I did not see nothing, it was like something was there as energy)
How to explain that with my low English level, what I had in my hands was a triangle, that was “solid” in some way, and I just played with it, making it bigger and smaller, turning it around, changing its “color”… idk how to explain
Then I was like okey I can do something with this… I took another puff and then WWOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW My head was clear, I invoked the triangle again and then I just tried to “open” it… And I did it. The triangle turned to be like a energy flow where I was like on the side of a river that was flowing trough my hands, in the middle of the triangle. It was magical and at the same time, scary in some way. I mean scary because I always overthink a lot of things (example: real origin of the Covid)
After that day… I just have a knowledge source that after reading demonic things related to apvp , I now understand were it comes from.
I know I don’t explain myself so well, but I never told this to anyone
So what I mean, whenever I have a question about anything that comes to my mind, I get the answer.

The reason I tell this to a random forum is because I had huge paranoias from thoughts coming when I wasn’t high on nothing (I even stopped drinking coffee) This alpha thing happened 5 years ago.

Nowadays, everything I thought was my paranoias
(Example: groups of globalistic mafias were invading Europe, Covid was a money laundering and business self expropriating tactic, people being cloned on public TV) everything is confirmed.

Wow I’m feeling so relieved, since if I just said this 5 years ago, I would now stay kidnaped somewhere in a psycho center being forced to take diazepam 1 mg each 8 hours when I am 1,9 m tall and fat as hell.

Ok guys if anyone did read my post, I will ask…
If this guy say people are possessed by demons when taking alpha and others in this thread confirm it … am I the devil ? That gets the knowledge of all these demons ?
Or they are not strong enough to access an common knowledge as I did with 21y and 0 studies?
Anyone else agrees that we can connect our souls with Alpha? Have anyone felt that with any drug?

Btw, send me bags betch

Hey, thank you for basic sheer unconditional positivity, I feel only at least as a legit lol, “empath” ( true story though)

I never aim to post here nowadays and am fucked health wise for the moment, extremely complicated and rare, but I really appreciate your post.

Now just to suggest this here in relation to your concern there.

It will only be temporary, transient. For now you see. If it was that easy to basically become a somebody fuck every loose demon would be at it.

I’m sure they scavenge for low stated or dimly conscious people. Any of us some time, someone always, somewhere right lol?


So don’t concern there. We just should be mindful of losing ourselves slightly too much in either drink or drugs, where our devil shields go down.

On accidental benzo overdoses myself, I’ve had full walking talking blackouts zero recollection.

I’ve spoken on phone no memory next day etc. Now surely in some format I would have been at least co-possessed then, but I’m out of that state now and that filth luckily cannot vibrate with me regularly.

It needs the likes of Bill Gates & Co for that permanent residence no kidding too.

One Nazi leader also would make a primary candidate example. For real.

I hope that makes sense, super stoned just vaporized first Poddy Mouth then a 27% Triple Scoop Ive concluded paper aside is too potent to vape for me.

Stay pure, hold clean intentions. Don’t be so wasted 24/365 that you lose yourself, and fuck them demons man. They won’t get much sniffing.

Actually I do have a guardian Angel! I caught her magically on camera. Legit.

There is a LOT of fairy tale like stuff fully true we don’t consider know or believe.