Misc My stomach hurts… I think

[pnillyg]

Ok fam. I get this wild burning/aching/knotting Charlie horse type thing under my left pectoral muscle feels like beneath my heart. The “doctors” call it my stomach and it may be… but menthol patches help when out on the lower part of my rib cage on my back. This pain has come and gone for many years and is the pinnacle of my addiction. Has anybody experienced this? Either way what do you recommend as a remedy or a treatment? I’ve tried everything from benzos-opiates-ketamine-kratom… I’m no doctor but I am smart enough to know that there is much more out there. California poppy, wild lettuce… amanita possibly? Just help pls ya boy is hurting bad today

Already taken 250mg ketamine SL which has been the newest help….

 

[daturetard]

Well, I have had something similar to your description on and off for years, and I've always called them heart palpitations. Is there a specific cause you notice? I get it from anticholinergics.

 

[pnillyg]

I think it’s typically from overeating or possibly consuming large amounts of cannabis for days on end. At least that’s what I thought it was but for the first time I saw a doctor the other day who thinks he knows what’s up, he said it’s some weird muscle trigger point that happened to some that is some sort of ghost pain that JFKs Dr discovered. I’m being treating now and praying he’s onto something. It’s been years

 

[daturetard]

Fucking yuck. Ghost pains are the worst. I'd rather have a physical ailment or injury. I have some that come and go due to excessive needles in a specific body part, because I used to have a horrible ingrown toenail. Got it 'fixed' at four different places (going as far as to kill the root with some solvent they threw in th wounds after the procedure) and it is still a problem today. Probably had more than 10 needles total (of numbing solution) stuck in an inch radius of my big toe. Did I mention it was both feet?

 

[pnillyg]

Damn that sounds brutal I have a few bad tattoos that burn these days when I sweat which also kill me so I feel you

 

[Keif' Richards]

Sorry you're having this trouble @pnillyg

I doubt it's the same thing at all. I did experience something similar though. I woke up one morning with a pain in my chest that was worst when I inhaled. I went to a few different places before being diagnosed with Costochondritis. The cartilage that connects my ribs/sternum was inflamed, likely from a minor infection. It went away after a couple of weeks. It was painful enough to prevent me from sleeping.

I just want to give you hope that here is something that can be figured out by your doctors. Just keep digging and making your appointments. I'm sure you will get it figured out. I found a heating pad helped with my pain quite a bit. You could also experiment with something like a Lidocaine cream on the affected area. That might give you some relief.

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

I hope it starts to get get better or go away @pnillyg

 

[pnillyg]

Sorry you're having this trouble @pnillyg

I doubt it's the same thing at all. I did experience something similar though. I woke up one morning with a pain in my chest that was worst when I inhaled. I went to a few different places before being diagnosed with Costochondritis. The cartilage that connects my ribs/sternum was inflamed, likely from a minor infection. It went away after a couple of weeks. It was painful enough to prevent me from sleeping.

I just want to give you hope that here is something that can be figured out by your doctors. Just keep digging and making your appointments. I'm sure you will get it figured out. I found a heating pad helped with my pain quite a bit. You could also experiment with something like a Lidocaine cream on the affected area. That might give you some relief.

Thank you for the hope. And yes heating pads are very helpful I recently found that icy hot patches are nice as well. Will look out for lidocaine cream though as that has helped my tattoos..

 

[Keif' Richards]

I can't believe I forgot this. For every possible symptom in the world of medicine, it's possible the root cause is gas. This is an exaggeration of course. I'm just trying to make a point.

I've had 2-3 different instances in my life where I had pain that was making me squirm in agony wondering if I was dying. If take some Simethicone and 30 minutes later I would take a few giant farts/burps and feel wonderful.

I think people are hesitant to say "my farts hurt so bad they made me cry" so it's one of those things that isn't fully explored intellectually until a person is in the ER with a surgeon telling them so.

Simethicone is not a pharmaceutical in the typical sense of "something that is taken and interacts in a specific way with our body's chemicals causing effects" if you follow me.

You swallow Simethicone and it causes the gas in your body to form larger masses allowing them to be passed more easily. My further point is that it should be irrelevant what a person's situation is medically as the drug simply interacts with the gas before being expelled.

My final, ultimate point is that there is no harm in just taking two to see if that helps. No harm done, but potential relief.

Addendum: one time i was riding in the car with my mom after eating lunch. 20 minutes later i was in tears, doubled over with a feeling of impending doom. It was not a minor discomfort.

Likewise, people often go to the hospital for heart attack only to be told it was gas.

In short, it's something always worth considering for any thoracic pain of unknown origin.

 

[pnillyg]

I can't believe I forgot this. For every possible symptom in the world of medicine, it's possible the root cause is gas. This is an exaggeration of course. I'm just trying to make a point.

I've had 2-3 different instances in my life where I had pain that was making me squirm in agony wondering if I was dying. If take some Simethicone and 30 minutes later I would take a few giant farts/burps and feel wonderful.

I think people are hesitant to say "my farts hurt so bad they made me cry" so it's one of those things that isn't fully explored intellectually until a person is in the ER with a surgeon telling them so.

Simethicone is not a pharmaceutical in the typical sense of "something that is taken and interacts in a specific way with our body's chemicals causing effects" if you follow me.

You swallow Simethicone and it causes the gas in your body to form larger masses allowing them to be passed more easily. My further point is that it should be irrelevant what a person's situation is medically as the drug simply interacts with the gas before being expelled.

My final, ultimate point is that there is no harm in just taking two to see if that helps. No harm done, but potential relief.

Addendum: one time i was riding in the car with my mom after eating lunch. 20 minutes later i was in tears, doubled over with a feeling of impending doom. It was not a minor discomfort.

Likewise, people often go to the hospital for heart attack only to be told it was gas.

In short, it's something always worth considering for any thoracic pain of unknown origin.

Going to give that a try during the next flair up thank you!!!

 

[Halif2]

I think people are hesitant to say "my farts hurt so bad they made me cry"

"Doc, you gotta help me! Usually my farts make other people cry. I tell you, this situation just ain't right - my gasses should be torturing others! I will not stand for this mutiny!"

Good luck, pnillyg. Hope you find a remedy soon, and make sure you report back if/when you do find it.

 

[SuperPsych]

I was actually going to mention gas but I see that Keif went into better detail than I could. If overeating makes it worse than it could definitely be gas and/or trapped air. I've gotten debilitating stomach cramps and even chest pain that suddenly went away after I was able to fart. I highly recommend trying simethicone and seeing if it helps. It's a godsend for me when I get those horrible cramps and stomach pain