Opioids "Red apple pills" Tapentadol/Carisoprodol. Anyone done these? Looking for dosage advice.

[trevic]

So I was looking for some barbiturates on the markets because I'm intrigued by them but came across these pills instead. From a good vendor and blister looks completely legit so I feel confident about them. They're both drugs I have no experience with (though I have a fair bit of opiate experience). Never come across these pills in real life and not even heard of anyone taking them, google searching not turning up much help either (couple of reddit threads but not talking about dosage) and searching on here I couldn't find anything (though maybe I missed a thread, in which case I'd appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction).

They're: tapentadol: 100mg/ carisoprodol: 125mg

Anyone had these or this combo of drugs before? Do you think it would respond well to redosing if I played it safe and started with one? The vendor suggested two was the common dose. Just a bit unsure because of the combination -- both being CNS depressents. Wanna get a good high off em but also don't want to like... die.

Not doing them till next week cause I did oxy on friday then two days of pregablin over the weekend, need a break since I'm not looking to get dependent on anything again, but just looking for advice. Also if anyone has done these guys how did they feel? Normally I look at like experience reports and stuff before trying something new but there is nothing for these.

For context I have a no real opiate tolerance and no experience with carisoprodol though these pills seem to lean more opiate in dosage.


BTW: Sorry for making another thread asking for advice, I'll endevour to actually contribute something eventually =).

 

[Aqlis]

So I was looking for some barbiturates on the markets because I'm intrigued by them but came across these pills instead. From a good vendor and blister looks completely legit so I feel confident about them. They're both drugs I have no experience with (though I have a fair bit of opiate experience). Never come across these pills in real life and not even heard of anyone taking them, google searching not turning up much help either (couple of reddit threads but not talking about dosage) and searching on here I couldn't find anything (though maybe I missed a thread, in which case I'd appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction).

They're: tapentadol: 100mg/ carisoprodol: 125mg

Anyone had these or this combo of drugs before? Do you think it would respond well to redosing if I played it safe and started with one? The vendor suggested two was the common dose. Just a bit unsure because of the combination -- both being CNS depressents. Wanna get a good high off em but also don't want to like... die.

Not doing them till next week cause I did oxy on friday then two days of pregablin over the weekend, need a break since I'm not looking to get dependent on anything again, but just looking for advice. Also if anyone has done these guys how did they feel? Normally I look at like experience reports and stuff before trying something new but there is nothing for these.

For context I have a no real opiate tolerance and no experience with carisoprodol though these pills seem to lean more opiate in dosage.


BTW: Sorry for making another thread asking for advice, I'll endevour to actually contribute something eventually =).

DISCLAIMER: I have not tried these specific pills nor Soma/Carisoprodol in general. Have done a lot of Tapentadol though.

tapentadol definitely responds well to redose in my experience, that shouldn't be an issue at all. your concern about mixing two CNS depressants especially as someone with no real opiate tolerance is extremely valid and reasonable, I think it's wise to try one pill at a time to gauge how it affects you and maybe take more in an hour or two if need be.

Tapentadol on its own can be quite unpredictable in terms of how people react to it (because of Being an SNRI, albeit weak Serotonin, mostly Norepinephrine) - let alone if it's mixed with a GABA drug.
So yeah just go low and slow, if you wanna be extra careful research when abouts they peak and only take more then.

From what I'm seeing online both Tapentadol and Soma/Carisoprodol peak around 1.5-2.5h, so that could be a range after which, if you're not really feeling as high as you'd like, you could consider taking more.

In my experience 100-200mg tapentadol is enough to get most people without a tolerance a pretty damn enjoyable high, but the addition of Soma can make it quite sloppy and bring the delusional sobriety associated with GABA drugs so keep that in the back of your mind.

 

[trevic]

DISCLAIMER: I have not tried these specific pills nor Soma/Carisoprodol in general. Have done a lot of Tapentadol though.

tapentadol definitely responds well to redose in my experience, that shouldn't be an issue at all. your concern about mixing two CNS depressants especially as someone with no real opiate tolerance is extremely valid and reasonable, I think it's wise to try one pill at a time to gauge how it affects you and maybe take more in an hour or two if need be.

Tapentadol on its own can be quite unpredictable in terms of how people react to it (because of Being an SNRI, albeit weak Serotonin, mostly Norepinephrine) - let alone if it's mixed with a GABA drug.
So yeah just go low and slow, if you wanna be extra careful research when abouts they peak and only take more then.

From what I'm seeing online both Tapentadol and Soma/Carisoprodol peak around 1.5-2.5h, so that could be a range after which, if you're not really feeling as high as you'd like, you could consider taking more.

In my experience 100-200mg tapentadol is enough to get most people without a tolerance a pretty damn enjoyable high, but the addition of Soma can make it quite sloppy and bring the delusional sobriety associated with GABA drugs so keep that in the back of your mind.

Thanks for the response. Yeah the temptation to do two is there cause I know if I redose, even if it rodoses well, it won’t be as intense as taking two together if my body can handle it. You’re right, I should be careful though, better to have an inferior high but know going forward what I can handle with this combo. If one doesn’t do much I’ll redose and do two a future time I guess (assuming I like the high).

Had no idea Tapentadol was an SNRI, I thought I’d just be in for another regular opioid.

Yeah I’ll definitely try to watch out for that delusional sobriety. Just coming off pregablin for the first time and definitely experienced that compulsive redosing, ended up putting my self at seizure risk with the final dosage (though fine in the end).

Thanks for the advice!

I’f anyone happens to read this that’s done these I’d still love to hear your experience =)

 

[silver_lining]

Red Apples are awesome in my opinion. Way better than Tapentadol on it's own. And having the consistent dosage of Soma within is much more reliable than having both drugs yourself and combining. Usually I mix it 1 red apple with 5 or 10mg Valium, about every 6 hours. But only twice a day and early. Tapentadol has a very speedy effect, hence the desire to take a benzo with it. But the soma within definitely keeps it more mellow than T on its own. That being said, don't mix CNS drugs lol. I've felt very close to blacking out if I take more than 2 red apples in a 6 hour period with Benzo involved. I kinda go in spurts tho, maybe a week or two run at max, then take a month or so off. Although the Valium is a constant.

Also, Soma on its own is probably my favorite. 1 gram on an empty stomach is super fun, kinda like being drunk but then it converts to a barbiturate and i just love that feeling. Tolerance builds fast tho, and redosing doesn't work. So you gotta have self control and just do it once and take a month off.

Atleast that is my experience.

Wish i could just get hydrocodone tho, but everytime i do it tests positive for fenty... and thats something i just don't want to risk.

 

[Cult315]

Thanks for the response. Yeah the temptation to do two is there cause I know if I redose, even if it rodoses well, it won’t be as intense as taking two together if my body can handle it. You’re right, I should be careful though, better to have an inferior high but know going forward what I can handle with this combo. If one doesn’t do much I’ll redose and do two a future time I guess (assuming I like the high).

Had no idea Tapentadol was an SNRI, I thought I’d just be in for another regular opioid.

Yeah I’ll definitely try to watch out for that delusional sobriety. Just coming off pregablin for the first time and definitely experienced that compulsive redosing, ended up putting my self at seizure risk with the final dosage (though fine in the end).

Thanks for the advice!

I’f anyone happens to read this that’s done these I’d still love to hear your experience =)

Tapentadol is very similar to tramadol and they’re often referred to together for the SNRI properties and the “speedy” high. Though I found the highs they give were vastly different, I’d still call them similar in effect.

About your redosing issue, though - I found as long as you take them close enough together the doses stack very well and you’re not really going to miss out on a more intense high by starting low. 200mg is probably too much for your first time, I’d definitely start with one and I’d be surprised if you didn’t feel a very strong high. I don’t have much experience with Soma but I mixed it with a cocktail of other CNS depressants and even with a moderate opiate tolerance at the time 200mg was usually my starting dose and it got me fucked up. I also had Nucynta ER for a while that came in oblong pills made out of what seemed to be straight rubber and nearly impossible to break the time release, but even cutting one of those into small pieces and eating it produced a decent high the first few times until tolerance built, and a few hours later another one would bring the high back up.

The first time I did tapentadol the guy selling them didn’t know what they were called and they said OM on them so he was selling them as Oxymorphone, which I knew couldn’t have been true but bought them anyway. Back then I, like most people didn’t have internet on my phone and didn’t have any quick place to go for internet to look up mystery pills so the tried and true method of eating them and seeing what happened was my only solution lol. I ate 2 and had a very mild buzz within the first hour and decided to take another 2(These were the round yellow OM 50 pills, 50mg). Within the next hour I had a very strong opiate high and felt nauseous as fuck - which surprised me because at that time nothing other than too much methadone had made me feel sick in a long time. Which led me to believe they were stronger than they were, but I was also on a bunch of Roxy’s at the time which likely led to the nausea.

Back then the ‘lesser’ opiates were cheap as hell, and this guy got a ton of these things so I switched to them for a bit. He was willing to front too, bad move on his part lol. I was paying him back at first but got heavy into coke for a while at the same time and I ended up owing the pill guy a pretty large debt, like $1200 or something that I couldn’t pay off cause my habit was already expensive as fuck so I ghosted the guy and lost a really good connect in the process. Years later after I’d gotten out of jail I ran into the dude in Walmart and he told me he had a bunch of oxy and if I bought them all he’d do it cheap. I should have been able to read the body language cause it was definitely there but yeah he robbed me of $400 and I fuckin knew it was coming, just didn’t want to believe it lol. Guess I paid back part of my debt though

Anyway sorry to get off topic, but 200mg with tolerance was my starting dose and got me high(or at least the start of the high) daily for a while so I’d definitely suggest starting with one of those.

Also forgot to add cause I went on a tangent - if you do start stepping into higher dose territory tapentadol can cause hallucinations. I went into this drug blind which is something I almost never did, but at the time there wasn’t a lot of info as it was pretty new and everything just claimed it was pretty much the same as tramadol. So I was pretty surprised when my doses for high and I started hearing shit that wasn’t there. Nothing crazy, I honestly don’t even remember what the hallucinations were but they do happen. I think maybe some CEVs but mostly auditory iirc

 

[WellTram]

Don't take too much cause u will experience chilled, relaxed opioid high with little cute hallucinations. For 4 hours. Tapentadol Is totaly different in effects than tramadol and since this one Is combined with sedative, the difference will be event more evident.

 

[Didgital]

little cute hallucinations.

Could you guys elaborate? Like tracers? Colors?

 

[Fire&Water]

Bin that shit

 

[Cult315]

Could you guys elaborate? Like tracers? Colors?

It’s been a long time since I’ve done the drug, in high enough doses for hallucinations anyway, and really don’t remember specifics other than auditory hallucinations. I want to say some minor CEVs but I’m not certain on that. I know I would hear some shit that wasn’t there, kinda like people strung out on meth jumping at every little noise - but not as extreme and there wasn’t actually any noise lol. I don’t recall it being bad per se but I wouldn’t call them fun like a mushroom trip would be either.

 

[WellTram]

I was in the middle of small garden dwarf dancing circle and they were like total real. It's more of deliriant type hallucinations ....but nothing major, Its good opioid

 

[silver_lining]

I was in the middle of small garden dwarf dancing circle and they were like total real. It's more of deliriant type hallucinations ....but nothing major, Its good opioid

"good opioid" hahaha... Nah, it's just one of the next best things readily available without the risk of fentanyl. Also cheap as they come and also in blister packs so you know it's not tainted.

A GOOD opioid in my opinion is hydrocodone. Very controllable, not "speedy" at all. Much better than real oxy's and recreationally fun just as much as also theraputiclly fun. But unless your getting it from a pharmacy your 99% getting it mixed with other shit, especially the fatal fent...

But we're all looking for something different. I don't do opioids regularly, maybe 2 weeks at the most with several months in between breaks. Usually just for a few days. And Tapentadol really is nice for pain, that is what i use it for, mostly. If i'm just looking for recreational fun... SOMA on it's own is way funner, safer & especially with a little benzo thrown in.

Be safe my fellow bluelighters.

 

[Cult315]

"good opioid" hahaha... Nah, it's just one of the next best things readily available without the risk of fentanyl. Also cheap as they come and also in blister packs so you know it's not tainted.

A GOOD opioid in my opinion is hydrocodone. Very controllable, not "speedy" at all. Much better than real oxy's and recreationally fun just as much as also theraputiclly fun. But unless your getting it from a pharmacy your 99% getting it mixed with other shit, especially the fatal fent...

But we're all looking for something different. I don't do opioids regularly, maybe 2 weeks at the most with several months in between breaks. Usually just for a few days. And Tapentadol really is nice for pain, that is what i use it for, mostly. If i'm just looking for recreational fun... SOMA on it's own is way funner, safer & especially with a little benzo thrown in.

Be safe my fellow bluelighters.

I always liked hydros but they’re just too weak. Even with a long, long break I have to take 25-30mg to really feel how I want to feel, and then within a few hours I have to take another 20mg to keep it going. I used to eat 40-50mg to get started then start sniffing them, but that’s an awful lot of powder to sniff lol. I always preferred oxy cause back in the day I could easily find the ones without Tylenol, and even when I couldn’t I didn’t have to do as much mg for mg compared to hydros. I will admit though, as good as Oxys euphoria is somehow hydros is better even though Oxys subjectively feels better. Maybe it’s just because the euphoria from hydros lasts a long time and oxys goes away pretty fast and you just nod.

My biggest problem with hydro though wasn’t the potency - I didn’t really mind eating handfuls of pills(when I could get them, anyway). It’s the fact that they made me extremely irritable anywhere past the doses that really got me high. Nothing was a weirder feeling than feeling good, happy and super pissed off all the same time lol. As far as I can recall I don’t remember any other opiate doing that to me. I always loved to fight and would fight anybody for pretty much any reason anyway, but doing drugs really calmed that. Except on hydros - I’d be good one minute and the next I’d be beating the piss out of somebody for next to nothing. I definitely still got into that mood while on other drugs, but for some reason hydros really brought it out full swing.

 

[WellTram]

"good opioid" hahaha... Nah, it's just one of the next best things readily available without the risk of fentanyl. Also cheap as they come and also in blister packs so you know it's not tainted.

A GOOD opioid in my opinion is hydrocodone. Very controllable, not "speedy" at all. Much better than real oxy's and recreationally fun just as much as also theraputiclly fun. But unless your getting it from a pharmacy your 99% getting it mixed with other shit, especially the fatal fent...

But we're all looking for something different. I don't do opioids regularly, maybe 2 weeks at the most with several months in between breaks. Usually just for a few days. And Tapentadol really is nice for pain, that is what i use it for, mostly. If i'm just looking for recreational fun... SOMA on it's own is way funner, safer & especially with a little benzo thrown in.

Be safe my fellow bluelighters.

I can relate to your preference for hydrocodone, eur don't have it available but dihydrocodeine which i am prescribed and hydromorphone are my 2 favorites. And they are related to hydrocodone.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

I’ve used the combo of drugs together a lot. It’s a fantastic combo.

100 mg tapentadol might be too much for you if you have zero opioid dependency. It’s equivalent to 15 mg oxycodone. Plus the carisoprodol will make it way stronger. Not dangerous but you might go to sleep or feel shitty. It’s kind of a dirty feeling opioid….but also feels good too tho.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I was highly disappointed with tapentadol.

I saw so many reports comparing it to tramadol, but it's nothing like tramadol at all, honestly. It smells & tastes like tramadol but that's about it.

Past 100mg, it starts to produce a lot of weird side effects, like a feeling of anxiety/black cloud following you around everywhere.
The opioid effect is okay when it comes through but it seems like there's a battle between the opioid effect & the NRI effect the whole time. I'll feel alright one minute & the next I'm feeling anxious, paranoid & dysphoric. Back and forth for the whole duration. Which makes sense, since most opioids suppress norepinephrine.

There's almost a dissociative/deliriant type feeling to it. The NRI effect is just too strong & cancels out any enjoyment from it's opioid effects. Not sure how anyone can enjoy these except with zero tolerance.

The first day I tried it, I noticed that every little sound in my environment was annoying the shit out of me. Normally opioids make me a bit chatty & more outgoing, but this made me feel anti-social.

Dosing too low doesn't give any good effects, but dosing too high causes all these side effects.
It's basically adrenaline in a pill, with a tiny opioid feeling in the background. If it was the other way around & felt like a good opioid with a tiny bit of norepinephrine in the background, then it might be slightly enjoyable. But the NRI effect is just so over-bearing.

And I'm some one who enjoys tramadol & gets good effects from it.

Tapentadol is probably the worst opioid I've ever tried.

 

[CavernsoftheMind]

Tried this combination today. I have 100mg Tapentadol + 125mg Carisoprodol tablets.

I have an opioid tolerance. I'd need around 100-150mg ODSMT rectally for a good rush.

First, I took 1 tablet & waited 1 1/2h.
Felt only slight effects.

Then dissolved 1/2 tab (so 50mg Tap + 62,5mg Caris) in 0,8ml of water. & boofed it. It dissolved well.

Felt sedation & a nice tingly feeling after about 30min.

Redosed the other half & now 3/4 of a tab, both rectally.

My muscles feel relaxed, I want to lay down & have light euphoria & a light opioid feeling.

I really enjoy it.
Rectal application works great.

 

[Liminality]

Thanks for the info. I am eager to try rectal but there's not a lot of info. I'll update with an edit on my trial.

Edit: 125mg
Slight tinnitus at the 30 min mark.
Then a strong dopey feeling.
Much easier to get the dosage using rectal administration, but can also be unpleasant after plugging.
Warmth and comfortable in body.
Mentally slower than usual.
I agree with the poster above me, rectal was great for Tapentadol