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Relationship Needs trumped by Boundaries?

KJ69

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Background:
My partner 31F and I 30M have been together for 6 years now. We have a 2yo son. Up until our son came along we had Meth GHB fueled sex marathons pretty much every weekend. We discovered each other, then together quickly discovered gear then combo. Which is so good, especially with a new love, became very hard to say no. Further back, Id say both sexually charged people from a young age, her more so, She had far more partners and admits cheating on her ex with me and 2 others. Also cheated before that. She described sleeping with guys to get things, in her 20s. Mainly weed or to have a place to stay rent free, even just to get back at people that wronged her…
But you get the picture.

So fast forward to 2022, we have our baby boy. I was so proud of her but she got fkd up, as badly as you can downstairs. She had 6 hours of reconstructive surgery after the birth. (This might be important?

Very soon after this our sex life dipped dramatically, as you would expect, new baby plus damage, I figured it was normal m. It had begun dipping in the year leading up to pregnancy… even when druged…
When bubs got his own room, we got our privacy somewhat back, there were nights where we took some gear/G (fairly low quantitys) to try rekindling. And it worked sort of. Then it just stopped.

We haven’t had sex in over 11 months, the last time, even during foreplay, I could tell she wasn’t into it. But would say she wanted to when asked. Only to be disconnected again seconds later…. It scared me, it was so cold but she wouldn’t say why. So I stopped trying, figuring she needs time so

It was probably 6-7months before I tried instigating again. Throughout that time, I tried discussing it, many many times in the most open and respectful ways i could.. Nothing. Denial, if I tried pushing I was met with aggression about how I was creating an issue…

6 weeks ago, finally i got somewhere, after months of strained tensions, she admitted had seen some txts on my phone too another female, that were of a sexual nature. Now I take full responsibility for them, it was a drunken attempt at soliciting, to a stranger, 3 txts long. Once explained they weren’t as damming as they originally seemed to her way back but doesn’t change the fact. Trust was broken.
I still beat myself up for it,
Ill briefly add that from my side, she was caught lying about drug use/purchase, where she was going, 3 days in a row I was told she was at work but she wasn’t. Found out by trying to drop off lunch/coffee and told oh shes off sick?
Yep 3 days in a row. Plus lots of other minor shit, because of my actions We’re expunged.

So my question is, with the background Ive outlined, she claims its her broken trust that means she doesn’t feel comfortable.
I respect that, if she doesn’t want too ill never force it. Despite it seemingly never being a problem to sleep with whoever for whatever to this point…..

But how long can this go on for? After 10 months of me being ostracized with no gratification at home, along with a death, a divorce and a heart attack in my immediate family, plus work drama/stress, Im emotionally stuffed. Im very depressed and anxious all the time, which she acknowledges, but doesn’t really care?
I feel worthless unwanted and unloved. I want to love this woman and keep our family together but Its very much a 1 way street now.

Im of the belief, despite what she says, its dead to her and shes waiting for a better opportunity to jump into. But if not, When can I expect to start sighting my needs in the relationship without it being trumped by my infidelity?? If ever.
 
There's a lot there to unpack and I'm sorry to hear it. I'd say maybe see a couples therapist, if you can afford it and you can find one with whom you can be upfront about the drugs. Some open communication seems necessary here
It's easy to write her off because of her past but it's also true that people grow and change. It's also true that the difficult childbirth, post birth hormone changes, the stress of raising a child can really mess up your sex life and life in general.
Also, having a history of sex on drugs sets you up for a chemsex sort of thing where it's hard to enjoy sex without being high. That shit can be tough to overcome. Makes sex without drugs much less satisfying, and also a lot of people slip on into preferring the drugs over the sex. I'm sure you know all that. How much drug use is she hiding from you? Is it a case where you are using less than in the past and she wants to do more?
 
Major thing to unpack is a little, child with (at least) one adult parent that is neglecting them - don't be that demographic. You got a purpose; your kid that needs you more than you need to post about your sexual dissatisfaction.( Having a purpose can be a burden but over-ruling that, it's a fucking beautiful will to live & strive to be better - you choose ; life is short, the grave comes sooner than realised)
Look after yourself, your needs ( if relationship isn't meeting that, move on, build the bridge alone - suck it up & face what you really need (& losses -the longer you leave it, the longer it takes to face), so you can strive, to give your child a better nourishment than you had (won't be perfect but make the best plough at it , as much as you can- no doubt, if you do, the purpose will gain more momentum, with time & sense)- think about what matters most, mate.
Have more sense because of that & get yourself better 💜
 
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Major thing to unpack is a little, child with (at least) one adult parent that is neglecting them - don't be that demographic. You got a purpose; your kid that needs you more than you need to post about your sexual dissatisfaction.( Having a purpose can be a burden but over-ruling that, it's a fucking beautiful will to live & strive to be better - you choose ; life is short, the grave comes sooner than realised)
Look after yourself, your needs ( if relationship isn't meeting that, move on, build the bridge alone - suck it up & face what you really need (& losses -the longer you leave it, the longer it takes to face), so you can strive, to give your child a better nourishment than you had (won't be perfect but make the best plough at it , as much as you can- no doubt, if you do, the purpose will gain more momentum, with time & sense)- think about what matters most, mate.
Have more sense because of that & get yourself better 💜
This is one point I didn’t cover at all in the post, mainly because if I'm honest, if not for him i don't know if id still be here. My little man is the only thing that matters and he comes 1st and foremost no matter what. Don’t you worry.
His mother mostly (99% of the time) shares the same sentiment. This is probably one of our few positive points as a couple, we can and do work well as a parenting team, i feel.
This is where I fall apart because I love seeing her mum, or seeing her little traits come out in the little fella.
We have days which are awesome together as a family which makes it so much harder.

Having come from a family where my father got physical with my mother, and regretted it for the rest of his life. I know what being a young kid in a broken family feels like. Luckily my step dad is an amazing man. And once Dad had sorted himself out (couple of years later) Mum insisted on us having a relationship with him. He never forgave himself for what he did, but he put everything he had, which wasn’t alot, into helping bro and I where he could.
 
There's a lot there to unpack and I'm sorry to hear it. I'd say maybe see a couples therapist, if you can afford it and you can find one with whom you can be upfront about the drugs. Some open communication seems necessary here
It's easy to write her off because of her past but it's also true that people grow and change. It's also true that the difficult childbirth, post birth hormone changes, the stress of raising a child can really mess up your sex life and life in general.
Also, having a history of sex on drugs sets you up for a chemsex sort of thing where it's hard to enjoy sex without being high. That shit can be tough to overcome. Makes sex without drugs much less satisfying, and also a lot of people slip on into preferring the drugs over the sex. I'm sure you know all that. How much drug use is she hiding from you? Is it a case where you are using less than in the past and she wants to do more?
We discussed a therapist and both liked the idea but money/time is the main issue.
Your right, I don’t want to base opinions on a young reckless 21yo her. But it still speaks to her character and how she feels about the world.

The chemsex ruining average sex thing is definitely an issue. But I don’t think its a key main reason, just a general contributor.
We had sober sex throughout as well as an open masturbation mentality (which is and always has been important to me, in any relationship, no one should never be ashamed or afraid to rub one out)
And we both have

With the drug use its hard to tell what shes going through. Its not more than we used to go thru. But we don’t have it together so much. Our supply always has come from a good mate of mine. Whom I purposely don't quiz about her use, but has said he would say something if use got excessive, for either of us, I mostly trust him on that
 
Appreciate there’s a lot here so thanks to everyone for taking the time to offer their 2c
Helps more Than you realize!
 
Allsorts in your tale friend but one thing very clear to me - your wife has some trauma, the infidelity may have exacerbated the effects of that - but the core issue is trauma, 99% certainly
 
Allsorts in your tale friend but one thing very clear to me - your wife has some trauma, the infidelity may have exacerbated the effects of that - but the core issue is trauma, 99% certainly
What makes you this? I assume you mean some kind of sexual Trauma?
 
Have you ever had great sex since she gave birth? Is she breastfeeding?

Hope things have improved…
Not great no, not to previous levels of greatness. No not breastfeeding, never did.

I wish i could say they had, after years with no sex life at all, the relationship is deteriorating. Communication still non-existent, despite my best efforts. Call me selfish but I need that intimacy to feel close and connected with someone, without that it’s just not worth the effort.
 
Has she gained weight that she hasn’t lost since? Sorry to hear things are only getting worse. 😭 But it’s entirely reasonable for you to want that intimacy. It’s what you signed up for. She’s the one who’s reneging but we need to figure out why.
 
Has she gained weight that she hasn’t lost since? Sorry to hear things are only getting worse. 😭 But it’s entirely reasonable for you to want that intimacy. It’s what you signed up for. She’s the one who’s reneging but we need to figure out why.
Shes lost weight if anything, but she has been on the gear (wont admit it but clearly obvious)
Thanks for the support. I feel like I could be being unreasonable, but Even if its the end I feel like I need closure ya know?
She seems to try and go the extra mile in other aspects of the relationship, which is the confusing part for me, It doesn't seem as though shes given up and moved on. although that's what keeps popping into my mind. There has been signs (working late, random days off work without telling me, phone going off at all hours, shaving legs etc after months not) so im not disregarding infidelity, but all circumstantial so may just be me being paranoid....
 
That part of any long term relationship. There is no perfect sexual situation where they are going to fulfill every need and you’ll find zero flaws in them.

you’ll fanatwsise about old relationships but if you analyze them close enough you’ll see that you were not fully satisfied then also and you’re viewing them retro actively through rose colored glasses


You’re going to have to accept that you won’t get 100% of everything you want sexually in a long term relationship…that’s part of it. And you might be hot shit now…but you won’t be in 10 or 15 years and you will either be alone or with someone you love
 
Fuck bro, sorry to hear this

when you are in this shit. it absolutely sucks. And I totally understand what you are going through and how hard it is.

Don't want to throw out cliches or even tell you what to do.. but i will just say this.. you are 30 man. You are young. I think you know the answer to what is happening. Life aint over for you man. 30. One day you will look back and say thank god I....
 
Fuck bro, sorry to hear this

when you are in this shit. it absolutely sucks. And I totally understand what you are going through and how hard it is.

Don't want to throw out cliches or even tell you what to do.. but i will just say this.. you are 30 man. You are young. I think you know the answer to what is happening. Life aint over for you man. 30. One day you will look back and say thank god I....
I think OP needs to be real sure this is their truth.

Sometimes a heavy dose of humility can bring you off your high horse and make you appreciate your partner and accept their perceived flaws when while you were on top of the world you thought you were better than them.

These humbling times in life have a way of erasing all that relationship anxiety and making you just feel thankful you have that person
 
i can’t really tell cause you’re sorta all over the place.

At first I almost told you to tell her to kick rocks and that it sounds like she’s cheating. But idk cause it almost seems like you’re gaslighting her a little. Men don’t have much patience when it comes to keeping their dick maintenanced .Thats why random blow jobs are great. It’s best just to catch them off guard and blow their damn mind when they least expect it about once a month. Much easier to deal with than how restless they can get. Partners should take care of each other anyways even if they dontt feel like it. Unless one of them are sick or something like that.

But going by how you said she was with men before yall then where’s the trauma coming from? Did something happen to her right before yall got together? Cause she didnt seem too affected then
 
You’re going to have to accept that you won’t get 100% of everything you want sexually in a long term relationship…that’s part of it. And you might be hot shit now…but you won’t be in 10 or 15 years and you will either be alone or with someone you love
I realize this is the case, I don’t expect anything nor want to force anything. I’m just trying to find where the line between respecting your partners boundaries and your own needs in a relationship meet.

I think there are deeper things at play that I’m not being told about. But I don’t know how to correctly go about encouraging an open discussion.
I have tried but get told I’m attacking, which I’m genuinely not trying too

At first I almost told you to tell her to kick rocks and that it sounds like she’s cheating. But idk cause it almost seems like you’re gaslighting her a little….
I am all over the place, sorry about that. There is more to the story but it’s hard trying to work out whats important etc.

Interested to hear how you think I’m gaslighting?

This is as much about improving myself and myself my understanding as it is anything else. If I am gaslighting without realizing that’s what I’m doing.. probably something I should look into…
 
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