RCs Big Mephedrone (4-MMC/4-methylmethcathinone) Thread Part 2

[ageingpartyfiend]

Did mephedrone ever go away? 6 years with no posts would suggest so but I was under the impression that availablity had never really lapsed in the post-ban years. Even like a decade ago I remember seeing articles saying how popular it is with the chemsex crowd.

Heh, yeah this is what happens. Not sure there's a drug out there more fiendish than 4-mmc. I keep some in my stash for a rainy day but I'm scared to actually touch it because a line can turn into a gram just like that and the comedown is just suicidal.

I wouldn't even feel comfortable having a bit stashed because it would be calling...calling...and eventually I'd just impulsively have some when I have a spare evening and nothing on the next day, and it would be fucking GREAT for about 4 hours, then just overstimmed ((and "aaagh why the fuck did I take that" then not wanting to come down, then the minimum 5 days feeling beyond shit mentally/physically/spiritually/in any way you care to mention.

So, it won't be finding it's sneaky way into my damn stash ever again hopefully

 

[JohnnyVodka]

3+ years since I've had any. Thought I might cave in this year and get a gram, but unfortunately a bit of a mental health crisis and having to try anti-depressants means that idea is out.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

3+ years since I've had any. Thought I might cave in this year and get a gram, but unfortunately a bit of a mental health crisis and having to try anti-depressants means that idea is out.

bummer you're having a rough time, but a great choice not to exacerbate it by caning the meph!

 

[Dextro .45]

Different batches....Ain't they a Bitch lol

1st time was amazing quality Mephedrone 4-MMC causing a 500% increase in Dopamine andba 950% increase is Serotonin....wow, great to blast little lines

2nd batch was weak inert trash. Same Canadian vendor. ONLY ships within Cananda. No customs to clear, very safe to order etc ...every thing you can think of nearly, even pharmaceutical Adderall, Ativan, Klonopin, Oxy-IR 20mg generic, Morphine 200mg XR capsules beads, Pregabalin, Ketamine, GHB, LSD, Psilocybin, etc, etc

It's a lovely substituted Cathinone- 4-MMC

IF you managed to obtain 90% + near pharmaceutical grade product....and the dextro isomer even better ....it would blow ur socks off I bet

Same price.....one vendor a full gram 1,000mg the other only 100mg lol.....wtf ?

Too bad you couldn't just buy 100% pure pharmaceutical grade of whatever you'd like this idiotic illicit market of Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine.....f@ck....

Phemnetrazine (Preludin) was Soooò overwhelmingly euphoric & pleasurable it was voluntarily removed from the market by the manufacturer lmao....even preferred over IV Methedrine d-Desoxyephedrine hcl

Pure API powder of pharmaceutical grade Phenmetrazine & Methylphenidate were highly sought after on the illicit market in parts of Europe, Sweden, etc during the 60/70's

Insane these amazingly formulated pharmaceutical holy grails lol

Dexamyl, Desbutal, Biphetamine, Preludin, Ritalin IV/IM/SC 100mg glass jars, Methedrine 20 & 30mg glass ampouls for injection, Valium, Dilaudid HP Fort 1,000mg / 10ml vial .....100mg of pure Hydromorphone In a single insulin syringe lol my lord.

5/10/30/100/500mg vials of Diamorphine lol, my lord......half gram vials of pure Heroin

 

[Leprechaun]

Did mephedrone ever go away? 6 years with no posts would suggest so but I was under the impression that availablity had never really lapsed in the post-ban years. Even like a decade ago I remember seeing articles saying how popular it is with the chemsex crowd.

Heh, yeah this is what happens. Not sure there's a drug out there more fiendish than 4-mmc. I keep some in my stash for a rainy day but I'm scared to actually touch it because a line can turn into a gram just like that and the comedown is just suicidal.

Not a bad comedown for me, but the embarrassment of doing shit while on it and the potential to destroy a normal stable life is just not worth it.

I mean fuck, I got lucky I was able to sort things about quickly. I feel lucky I got out while just a little behind.

I can see how people decide to destroy their entire situation though.

 

[Leprechaun]

Different batches....Ain't they a Bitch lol

1st time was amazing quality Mephedrone 4-MMC causing a 500% increase in Dopamine andba 950% increase is Serotonin....wow, great to blast little lines

2nd batch was weak inert trash. Same Canadian vendor. ONLY ships within Cananda. No customs to clear, very safe to order etc ...every thing you can think of nearly, even pharmaceutical Adderall, Ativan, Klonopin, Oxy-IR 20mg generic, Morphine 200mg XR capsules beads, Pregabalin, Ketamine, GHB, LSD, Psilocybin, etc, etc

It's a lovely substituted Cathinone- 4-MMC

IF you managed to obtain 90% + near pharmaceutical grade product....and the dextro isomer even better ....it would blow ur socks off I bet

Same price.....one vendor a full gram 1,000mg the other only 100mg lol.....wtf ?

Too bad you couldn't just buy 100% pure pharmaceutical grade of whatever you'd like this idiotic illicit market of Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine.....f@ck....

Phemnetrazine (Preludin) was Soooò overwhelmingly euphoric & pleasurable it was voluntarily removed from the market by the manufacturer lmao....even preferred over IV Methedrine d-Desoxyephedrine hcl

Pure API powder of pharmaceutical grade Phenmetrazine & Methylphenidate were highly sought after on the illicit market in parts of Europe, Sweden, etc during the 60/70's

Insane these amazingly formulated pharmaceutical holy grails lol

Dexamyl, Desbutal, Biphetamine, Preludin, Ritalin IV/IM/SC 100mg glass jars, Methedrine 20 & 30mg glass ampouls for injection, Valium, Dilaudid HP Fort 1,000mg / 10ml vial .....100mg of pure Hydromorphone In a single insulin syringe lol my lord.

5/10/30/100/500mg vials of Diamorphine lol, my lord......half gram vials of pure Heroin

I thought I knew them all! But phenmetrazine looks like one I missed.

Reading a paper from the 50s about it is fascinating! Thanks for bringing it up!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1962212/pdf/brmedj03118-0036.pdf

 

[Dextro .45]

Ya, there are many RC analogs of Phenmetrazine (Preludin) such as 3-Fluoro Phenmetrazine but non are even close, I’ve tried 3 of the analogs …..not Preludin but I can imagine

I do however get long term script of Ritalin (Methylphenidate) and is VERY pleasurable & euphoric for me. 70mg IR oral with food & Ethanol and I pulverize into fine powder, wet nasal cavity with room temp bottled water and rail lines of Methylphenidate which to me is better than coke, as it’s 100% pharma grade and not stepped on 30% illicit “Cocaine”

Ritalin (Methylphenidate) and Oxy-IR (Oxycodone) were the only 2 drugs to ever give me true euphoria on my 40+ years on this planet. An overwhelming inner joy of happiness & pleasure, dopaminergic opioid Bliss ….the best oral Speedball I could ask for

Nothing beats getting your drugs from a pharmacist in a white lab coat lol, 100% pure and not some sketchy street shit…..Big Pharma lol fuckers ……I worked in a warehouse before with large blue plastic drums of API Pharmaceuticals 100kg drums (220 lbs) labelled “PREGABALIN” and such….I never saw any CII Controlled Substances…..but exactly same shit. Check out Mallikroff (Sp?) pharma website ….they have listed pure API compounding powder. Cocaine, yes Cocaine 25g jars, Hydromorphone, Methadone, Oxycodone, Methylphenidate, d-Amphetamine, Diazepam, etc.

Inside these chemical manufacturers….my lord. To be head of manufacturing with unlimited access to CII substances

In Canada …..B.C. Safe drug supply……over 300,000 tablets of Dilaudid 8mg Hydromorphone IR tablets went “missing” …no police report, just notify Health Canada and that’s that lol

To have the pure powder even before excipients are added and pressed into a tablet …..my lord.

 

[Leprechaun]

Ya, there are many RC analogs of Phenmetrazine (Preludin) such as 3-Fluoro Phenmetrazine but non are even close, I’ve tried 3 of the analogs …..not Preludin but I can imagine

I do however get long term script of Ritalin (Methylphenidate) and is VERY pleasurable & euphoric for me. 70mg IR oral with food & Ethanol and I pulverize into fine powder, wet nasal cavity with room temp bottled water and rail lines of Methylphenidate which to me is better than coke, as it’s 100% pharma grade and not stepped on 30% illicit “Cocaine”

Ritalin (Methylphenidate) and Oxy-IR (Oxycodone) were the only 2 drugs to ever give me true euphoria on my 40+ years on this planet. An overwhelming inner joy of happiness & pleasure, dopaminergic opioid Bliss ….the best oral Speedball I could ask for

Nothing beats getting your drugs from a pharmacist in a white lab coat lol, 100% pure and not some sketchy street shit…..Big Pharma lol fuckers ……I worked in a warehouse before with large blue plastic drums of API Pharmaceuticals 100kg drums (220 lbs) labelled “PREGABALIN” and such….I never saw any CII Controlled Substances…..but exactly same shit. Check out Mallikroff (Sp?) pharma website ….they have listed pure API compounding powder. Cocaine, yes Cocaine 25g jars, Hydromorphone, Methadone, Oxycodone, Methylphenidate, d-Amphetamine, Diazepam, etc.

Inside these chemical manufacturers….my lord. To be head of manufacturing with unlimited access to CII substances

In Canada …..B.C. Safe drug supply……over 300,000 tablets of Dilaudid 8mg Hydromorphone IR tablets went “missing” …no police report, just notify Health Canada and that’s that lol

To have the pure powder even before excipients are added and pressed into a tablet …..my lord.

I remember a wonderful quote from a podcast, something I heard 20 years ago.

“When you are a child, you think, oh, I want that ice cream. If I could have all the ice cream all the time, I would be happy. Now, we have access to all the ice cream we could ever want… Are we happy?”

 

[Dextro .45]

Shit, you’d probably be dead within a few years or be completely drug ravaged lol. I guess that’s why they’re CII controlled substances ….they don’t want the masses to have unlimited access to Heroin, Cocaine, Methamphetamine

After WWII Japan an epidemic with d-Desoxyephedrine / Methamphetamine and Germany with Pervitin (d-Meth) used by munitions workers, factory workers, the war effort etc. After long term use the side effects are horrid

Morphinism the “Soldiers Disease” after WW1 was the same thing

But for me….I want a temp controlled secured vault in my mansion compound basement wing with 300kg or pure API compounding powder of every CII substance …..just for me. I’ll use at my leisure and help certain individuals with legitimate medical conditions who get shafted by shook doctors.

I’ll write you a script lol

 

[Bucephalus23]

I wouldn't say it's gone away. If anything I think it is making a bit of a comeback due to popularity in Europe, and it being brought up fairly often in reddit threads

 

[Leprechaun]

I wouldn't say it's gone away. If anything I think it is making a bit of a comeback due to popularity in Europe, and it being brought up fairly often in reddit threads

It’s everywhere in Europe, Russia, Asia and recently the USA. You don’t even need to look far.

I was just blown away with how common 4-MMC and 3-MMC are in Germany in particular. It’s as common as MDMA.

Clubs and parties it’s just all around.

 

[Pastel]

From personal experience I found preban methylone far more moreish than preban mephedrone. What I particularly liked about mephedrone that unlike with methylone, I could take 250mg capsule and after 3 hours go to sleep without a need for benzos. But unlike methylone, after taking which I would have a positive afterglow for a few days, a week after consuming mephedrone my blood pressure would stay elevated and I had these sickly headaches. In later years I tried to acquire mephedrone on darknet probably 4 times, but every time a melting point test would show that it was either 3-mmc or adulterated 3-mmc.

4-mmc is said to be mass-produced in Russia, where it has caused a national problem because with a typical Russian abandon instead of eating or snorting it, people inject it in ungodly quantities. But many reports speak of red, blue, etc. types of "mephedrone", so its likely to be some other garbage.

Incidentally, the synthesis has been greatly simplified. I remember that back in 2011 from the precursors that were available at the time it would be a ~20 step process. Not anymore... But one gets bored of everything. Still fun to write about it.