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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Fluorexetamine (3-F-2’-oxo-PCE; FXE) Thread

Esperighanto said:
A good reminder that you can never trust a capitalist.
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"Never" is an absolutism and too extreme. Look, the same way communism/socialism doesn't have to be run like dogshit – e.g.: Romania under Nicolae Ceaușescu, the USSR under Mikhail Gorbachev – capitalism doesn't have to be crapitalism, you know… Idk which form of govt. works better; I've gone back and forth in my head over the years, but I do know that some of us find ourselves ensnarled in one form or the other and have no choice but to play along and run in that particular rat race given how devastating living in poverty can be to one's goals, desires, and future prospects. I can't blame someone for wanting to build a better life for themselves and their loved ones, close ones, relatives, etc.

Besides, from another perspective, nothing is guaranteed in life. Capitalists are no more trustworthy or not than anyone else. And in the end, I think most of us have to take a chance and trust another human with certain aspects of our lives. No one on the planet is untouchable.

Which brings me to the vendor in question who sold sus product to @mem3p21 … You know, purportedly much of the "FXE" (3'-Fluoro-2-Oxo-PCE,) that's being sold through the gray market is in fact either 2-FXE (2'-Fluoro-2-Oxo-PCE) or 2F-NENDCK (2-Fluoro-N-Ethyl-NorDesChloroKetamine). Fortunately, these are not dramatically different in terms of effects and/or potency.
 
unodelacosa said:
"Never" is an absolutism and too extreme. Look, the same way communism/socialism doesn't have to be run like dogshit – e.g.: Romania under Nicolae Ceaușescu, the USSR under Mikhail Gorbachev – capitalism doesn't have to be crapitalism, you know… Idk which form of govt. works better; I've gone back and forth in my head over the years, but I do know that some of us find ourselves ensnarled in one form or the other and have no choice but to play along and run in that particular rat race given how devastating living in poverty can be to one's goals, desires, and future prospects. I can't blame someone for wanting to build a better life for themselves and their loved ones, close ones, relatives, etc.

Besides, from another perspective, nothing is guaranteed in life. Capitalists are no more trustworthy or not than anyone else. And in the end, I think most of us have to take a chance and trust another human with certain aspects of our lives. No one on the planet is untouchable.

Which brings me to the vendor in question who sold sus product to @mem3p21 … You know, purportedly much of the "FXE" (3'-Fluoro-2-Oxo-PCE,) that's being sold through the gray market is in fact either 2-FXE (2'-Fluoro-2-Oxo-PCE) or 2F-NENDCK (2-Fluoro-N-Ethyl-NorDesChloroKetamine). Fortunately, these are not dramatically different in terms of effects and/or potency.
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Yeah capitalism doesn't last directly to the office if causes, it's uniquely people at do m indiscreetly causing them. I'm a big fan of socialism, fact seeing shit and human rights personally.
 
Esperighanto said:
Yeah capitalism doesn't last directly to the office if causes, it's uniquely people at do m indiscreetly causing them. I'm a big fan of socialism, fact seeing shit and human rights personally.
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Didn’t quite follow that, but it was obvious you’re into socialism given your comment re: capitalists. I’m not a fan of either form of government but I’ll go with the lesser evil and choose the one least likely to devolve into a one-party totalitarian regime, at least historically speaking. It’s also probably relevant that black market capitalism never seems to disappear, especially in the face of oppression. That’s why there are thriving black markets in China and N. Korea, just like there was in the Soviet Union, including even items like Samizdat. Or in any prison, there’s a black market despite the heavy oppression and lack of inmate rights. And these economies are just as affected by the laws of supply and demand, price, scarcity, elasticity, etc. as in any legit marketplace.

And regardless, what do you do for a living? You don’t need to answer that; chances are it involves receiving a paycheck from a capitalist, no? I’m not blaming you for that, mind you. My point is just that we all have to rat race regardless of our thoughts on politics most times.
 
negrogesic said:
Generally, though one notable exception is 3-CL-PCP, which has some distinct phases, including distinct sedating and stimulating phases. Weird substance.
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Yeah I'm not much of a fan of substituting Fluorine or Chlorine at the meta position… hydroxy or methoxy is another matter; I'm particularly fond of 3-HO-PCP as it's much more chill than 3-MeO or just regular PCP and it has affinity for the µ-opioid receptor about on par w/codeine, which is perfect in my opinion. I find it to be meditative, calming, sometimes spiritual maybe, peaceful, relaxing, almost like being in an alien alternate universe for a little while and dangling off a different precipice of not caring… so much … ok I'm writing this whilst on 3-HO-PCP now and can confirm, yes, yes, this is the shiznit, and I am quite fond of this state… probably helps that I took 2C-B earlier, second-to-none this shit rocks…

But so yeah it is kinda fucked up that umm… wait, what was I just talking about?

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Just kidding. It is a bit distracting though, and so I guess what we've been thinking all along has been 3-F-2'-Oxo-PCE is in fact 2-F-2'-Oxo-PCE, which has me wondering what the differences are between FXE and 2FXE, I guess? I assume there's a difference worth noting… or is there?

EDIT: As a reminder… there are too many drugs in the world for any one person to try, evaluate, and be able to delineate from other drugs… here go 375 arylcycloalkylamines.
 
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negrogesic said:
Generally, though one notable exception is 3-CL-PCP, which has some distinct phases, including distinct sedating and stimulating phases. Weird substance.
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I found 3Cl-pcp to be completely useless. No real dissociation and just a lackluster feeling of serotonergic activity.
 
izo said:
I found 3Cl-pcp to be completely useless. No real dissociation and just a lackluster feeling of serotonergic activity.
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Yeah, I was also not a fan. Weird stuff, feels toxic.

What I do like however is 3F-PCP. It doesn't have recreational potential, but is rather a clean headed, fast-acting antidepressant at low doses (35mg or less). Large doses are not fun, just confusing. 3CL-PCP is garbage though.
 
Esperighanto said:
10 Grams used essentially daily lasted my dumb ass maybe 2 months. I'm a lot better about spacing out my arylcyclohexylamine use nowadays. You should experiment with oral use too, since this is very similar to 2F-DCK.
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What was a good oral dose of fxe for you? I will have the CanKet stuff 2-fxe? Not sure
 
Look... The people designing these new substances are literally mad and there giving these designs to chemists who knows what these substances can do.
 
MedicinalUser247 said:
Look... The people designing these new substances are literally mad and there giving these designs to chemists who knows what these substances can do.
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Most arylcyclohexylamines were already created in academia long before they hit the streets in academic contexts to explore NMDA antagonism as a mechanism of action. A handful were made by clandestine chemists, but far fewer than academia generated.

Who are these mad scientists designing chemicals btw who aren't chemists themselves?

Or are you implying that chemists are selling "recipes"?

I'm genuinely curious about this but I just smoked three bowls back to back and my reading comprehension is on the level of a child right now, sorry about the confusion.
 
Esperighanto said:
It's marginally more potent than 2F-DCK, so anywhere from 1-3 doses of 35-50mg depending on tolerance, it's very redosable.
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So it's fairly short acting? Or is more comparable to maybe mxe duration?
 
deficiT said:
So it's fairly short acting? Or is more comparable to maybe mxe duration?
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Never used MXE, but CanKet and ketamine are identical in length ime. You just need a little less CanKet proportionally than you would ketamine, and it feels more manic and stimulating. Reminds me of 3-MeO-PCP vs 3-HO-PCP as far as mania vs sedation.
 
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