Dissociatives Solid 3-ho-Pce Info, Post Experiences Here? Questions also...

[CentipedeKarma]

Hello, everyone!

YES I know about psychonaut wiki and reddit and etc but wanted to ask People Here's Input ON The compund 3-HO-PCE, and I saw there isn't even a big and dandy thread about it here? LMK if there is..! (OK EDIT: THERE WAS A THREAD BUT ITS GONE???)
I am receiving roughly 200-250mg of this relatively soon!

I have a BIT of a disso tolerance as-is (dissonaut extraordinaire, Ive done: ketamine 4-5 times oral and nasal, dxm 125+ times ranging from 100mg to 1350mgHBR to 1776mg Poli all forms Freebase HBR and Poli, DMXE (went thru roughly a gram in 2 days), binged FXE with stim/3-ho-pcp/3-cl-pcp combined UNMEASURED DOSES MIND U in september 2021, and the last time i took an RC disso was around a year ago; took 18mg 3-ho-pcp within 36 hours.. just been mainly using dxm sporadically/every now and then since...)
OH ALSO I HAVE USED MEMANTINE A LOT, AROUND 2-3 GRAMS MY WHOLE LIFE.

Is oral or nasal ROA the way to go? Planning on doing a 2mg allergy test NASALLY when received, and I have a fent test strip + Narcan, but this was a FREE sample from someone ive talked to semi-regularly for 4 years or so now, but will probably test JIC...

Would 10mg be a good starter dose for someone with a tolerance? If so, Nasal or oral?

Would boofing be good with this one also? Granted, I've never boofed, but it IS something that grabs my curiosity. I could also IM it if thats possible (NOT IV!!) as I have IM needles/1ml syringes for my HRT laying around, so... And i know the IM process now thanks to a previous thread I've made, just need to know if this is IMable!

I know not to mix Stims + Depressants with it, according to the PsychonautWiki page, however, what is the interaction with Adderall XR? Not good, Right? LMK if i'm wrong here, though. I take adderall 30mg XR almost every morning for my ADHD... so. PLEASE LMK! I CAN SKIP A DOSE, ITS NOT THE WORST!

ALSO!!! Please feel free to post general 3-HO-PCE experiences also!! Erowid has practically NOTHING, and reddit threads are sparse :+/ Bad or good, mystical or spiritual, etc!!! THANK YOU!!!

 

[CentipedeKarma]

Ah yes... (asks if i can IM 3-ho-pce, then remembers This Thread)... maybe i wont. But boofing, yes?

 

[CentipedeKarma]

OH ALSO! forgot to ask. Sorry last "bump": Is 3-HO-PCE as like, "sex repulsant" as like, DXM and other dissos, and make it impossible/hard as fuck to get hard/obtain an orgasm? Need to know, for SCIENCE!

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I’m certain there is a big and dandy somewhere. I’m on my phone and a bit busy or I’d look it up.

But the compound, 3-ho-pce is quite an interesting yet dull one IME. I have only a few dissos I’ve tried to compare it to but it certainly felt wonky at 10mg orally and got too dissociating too fast past that. Mixes well in low doses with other psychedelics for me. Very manic and nothing like say, MXE or nitrous where you’re floored, just a very dissociated headspace in general. It has been several years since I have tried it again though so my memory is a bit foggy on it.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

I’m certain there is a big and dandy somewhere. I’m on my phone and a bit busy or I’d look it up.

But the compound, 3-ho-pce is quite an interesting yet dull one IME. I have only a few dissos I’ve tried to compare it to but it certainly felt wonky at 10mg orally and got too dissociating too fast past that. Mixes well in low doses with other psychedelics for me. Very manic and nothing like say, MXE or nitrous where you’re floored, just a very dissociated headspace in general. It has been several years since I have tried it again though so my memory is a bit foggy on it.

All good! Never tried MXE (it was in its "prime" when i was 8-13 years old ) or Nitrous tbh... Just know about em a Lot.

I have heard it mixes well with psychs, have you tried 4-AcO-DMT + 3-HO-PCE? I can get 4-ACO easily, or other such tryptamines..
LSD is NOT my jam anymore, but i do a lot of shrooms/shroom-like RCs now, so.

Also, have you tried other disso combos with it? I have access to DXM and might get Ket soon, do these combine well? thank you for the reply!

 

[Esperighanto]

OH ALSO! forgot to ask. Sorry last "bump": Is 3-HO-PCE as like, "sex repulsant" as like, DXM and other dissos, and make it impossible/hard as fuck to get hard/obtain an orgasm? Need to know, for SCIENCE!

This drug is more snuggly than sexy if that makes sense, 3-HO-PCE feels like if 3-HO-PCP was a warm, cuddly bath robe that made you feel as warm as napping in front of a fire place. I've mixed it with ketamine, 2C-B, 3-HO-PCP, LSD and DOB so far. Of those, 2C-B, LSD and DOB were the only worthwhile ones.

Interestingly enough though, an initial dose of 3-HO-PCE followed by later bumps of ketamine or CanKet led to the experience extending but maintaining an identical character essentially.

I accidentally mixed up my baggies of amphetamine and 3-HO-PCE, leading to the accidental insufflation of 55mg alongside 55mg of ketamine. I felt as if I'd been stuck in amber, it felt like menthol PCP, it's difficult to describe. This is a very unique compound, it's interesting to encounter something that places 3-HO-PCP in the middle of a spectrum between 3-MeO-PCP and 3-HO-PCE now, as far as a manic<->warm spectrum.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

This drug is more snuggly than sexy if that makes sense, 3-HO-PCE feels like if 3-HO-PCP was a warm, cuddly bath robe that made you feel as warm as napping in front of a fire place. I've mixed it with ketamine, 2C-B, 3-HO-PCP, LSD and DOB so far. Of those, 2C-B, LSD and DOB were the only worthwhile ones.

Interestingly enough though, an initial dose of 3-HO-PCE followed by later bumps of ketamine or CanKet led to the experience extending but maintaining an identical character essentially.

I accidentally mixed up my baggies of amphetamine and 3-HO-PCE, leading to the accidental insufflation of 55mg alongside 55mg of ketamine. I felt as if I'd been stuck in amber, it felt like menthol PCP, it's difficult to describe. This is a very unique compound, it's interesting to encounter something that places 3-HO-PCP in the middle of a spectrum between 3-MeO-PCP and 3-HO-PCE now, as far as a manic<->warm spectrum.

VERY GOOD AND THOROUGH RESPONSE appreciate it immensely!
still need to read your accidental 3-ho-pce report...
Thank you ! really fantastic info!!

 

[Esperighanto]

Shit I forgot to mention, I've bumped this alongside both methamphetamine and Jordan amphetamine and both times were pretty indistinguishable from mixing those stimulants with 3-HO-PCP personally, but no adverse effects from the combination presented in my fiance or myself. The character of this compound really only showed when 3-HO-PCE was mixed with benzos, cannabinoids, or psychedelics. Stims (monoamine releasers at last) make all angel dust variants feel the same low-key, idk why.

Sorry if I'm sloppy and all over the place tonight, started taking Bupropion again daily and it's got me acting like a bipolar manic freak but at least I'm able to get things done now, depression is wack.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

Shit I forgot to mention, I've bumped this alongside both methamphetamine and Jordan amphetamine and both times were pretty indistinguishable from mixing those stimulants with 3-HO-PCP personally, but no adverse effects from the combination presented in my fiance or myself. The character of this compound really only showed when 3-HO-PCE was mixed with benzos, cannabinoids, or psychedelics. Stims (monoamine releasers at last) make all angel dust variants feel the same low-key, idk why.

Sorry if I'm sloppy and all over the place tonight, started taking Bupropion again daily and it's got me acting like a bipolar manic freak but at least I'm able to get things done now, depression is wack.

AH nah ur good! THANK YOU SO MUCH, thank you for the BENZO mention also, i sometimes dabble with those and meant to ask also... What benzos have you tried with it, if any? I can get bromazolam + bromonordiazepam (tried former, not latter yet) so.

 

[Esperighanto]

AH nah ur good! THANK YOU SO MUCH, thank you for the BENZO mention also, i sometimes dabble with those and meant to ask also... What benzos have you tried with it, if any? I can get bromazolam + bromonordiazepam (tried former, not latter yet) so.

I took it with ~2mg flualprazolam and 25mg of hydroxyzine, probably not a wise thing to do but I really enjoy exploring novel states of relaxation like that. I haven't tried it with any other benzos, but brom and flualp are wicked similar, brom is just sleepier. Like the indica version of alp, with flualp being like the 50/50 hybrid haha. That's how they hit me at least.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

I took it with ~2mg flualprazolam and 25mg of hydroxyzine, probably not a wise thing to do but I really enjoy exploring novel states of relaxation like that. I haven't tried it with any other benzos, but brom and flualp are wicked similar, brom is just sleepier. Like the indica version of alp, with flualp being like the 50/50 hybrid haha. That's how they hit me at least.

I have done Bromaz, as well as FluAlp. Dont rememeber flualp too well, other than anhedonia and depression while on it, for obvious reasons! Bromaz is ok, but idk... feels... Dirty. Weird. Fiendish, and i binged 40mg of it in 3-5 days recently, then when it was over, I wanted to KMS for a few days.
...
thats not normal. Is it.

 

[Esperighanto]

I have done Bromaz, as well as FluAlp. Dont rememeber flualp too well, other than anhedonia and depression while on it, for obvious reasons! Bromaz is ok, but idk... feels... Dirty. Weird. Fiendish, and i binged 40mg of it in 3-5 days recently, then when it was over, I wanted to KMS for a few days.
...
thats not normal. Is it.

Yeah that doesn't sound like a very healthy relationship to benzos, idk. I rarely exceed a couple doses of benzos a week, but I'm also a naturally depressed and sleepy person who prefers stimulating compounds.

I personally find alprazolam to consistently bring out demons in people that they didn't know were there, but flualprazolam is just sleepy enough to dull that without knocking most people out. Alp truly is an entity bro, I can't believe it ever got so common in the first place given that people now think it's a DRI in addition to a benzo.

Brom over 1mg is a tranquilizer to me, but 500ug of it this morning made my day nice as hell.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

Yeah that doesn't sound like a very healthy relationship to benzos, idk. I rarely exceed a couple doses of benzos a week, but I'm also a naturally depressed and sleepy person who prefers stimulating compounds.

I personally find alprazolam to consistently bring out demons in people that they didn't know were there, but flualprazolam is just sleepy enough to dull that without knocking most people out. Alp truly is an entity bro, I can't believe it ever got so common in the first place given that people now think it's a DRI in addition to a benzo.

Brom over 1mg is a tranquilizer to me, but 500ug of it this morning made my day nice as hell.

Need to learn to dose LIGHTER w the benzs @ me!!!
Alp is ok. I havent had actual alp in so fucking long lmfao.
I can take up to 5mg brom and be lucid, just sloppy as a drunk. i hit blackout around 7+mg at once. I tend to have the fiendish need to redose a lot, though.

I have had SUPREMELY bad anxeiety my whole life, SO bad as a kid i was pulled out of fucking PRESCHOOL after 3 days of being there due to vomiting nonstop from anxiety. Similar situations have happened throughout life for me, as well. Benzos feel euphoric when dosed lighter, and suicidal/depressed/anhedonic at higher. NEED to remember this @ myself.

 

[golego55]

depression is wack.

It was years ago but I remember numerous DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) days at my elementary school. Programming focusing on mental health, bullying, and domestic issues? 0.

 

[Esperighanto]

Need to learn to dose LIGHTER w the benzs @ me!!!
Alp is ok. I havent had actual alp in so fucking long lmfao.
I can take up to 5mg brom and be lucid, just sloppy as a drunk. i hit blackout around 7+mg at once. I tend to have the fiendish need to redose a lot, though.

I have had SUPREMELY bad anxeiety my whole life, SO bad as a kid i was pulled out of fucking PRESCHOOL after 3 days of being there due to vomiting nonstop from anxiety. Similar situations have happened throughout life for me, as well. Benzos feel euphoric when dosed lighter, and suicidal/depressed/anhedonic at higher. NEED to remember this @ myself.

Essentially every drug is best used in moderation.

Aripiprazole (abilify) is really interesting, I took it during a period of profound mental illness and all it did was make me organized and unhinged whereas beforehand I'd been disorganized and unhinged. Nowadays I'm hinged up like a fucking door though, thankfully, and I'm looking into getting back on Ability at some point if Bupropion keeps making me feel this bipolar rollercoaster bullshit it always pulls out on me as a balancing act to all the focus and energy it gives me too.

It might be the brain damage from past surgeries (was terminally ill for three years, pulled through by chance) but I don't think I've ever experienced anxiety the way other people feel it, so my relationship to benzos is just like if alcohol was really clean feeling and useful. When I was terminal I was rx'd hydromorphone and lorazepam, which was a banging combo but it made me hallucinate weird shit. A friend would swing by my house and we'd have a great chat for an hour or two before I wouldn't even blink and he vanishes, turns out he was never there at all. One time lorazepam convinced me I could see microscopic details of things at any distance, when in reality I can't distinguish 720p from 1080p.

If you want to chat more about GABA induced hallucinations, I'll get a separate thread going for that because between Ambien, Ativan, and Amanitas, there exists some peculiar little dimension of GABA hallucinogens. I'd love to try Tifluadom (for its alleged kappa opioid agonism as well), Z-drugs, and all of the isomers/variants of muscimol and gaboxadol alongside traditional psychedelics to see if they offer any therapeutic benefit or not.

 

[Esperighanto]

It was years ago but I remember numerous DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) days at my elementary school. Programming focusing on mental health, bullying, and domestic issues? 0.

I don't have any memories before 13 y/o but my middle and high schools did a lot of education surrounding this bc our suicide rate was pretty high, and the drug use rate was through the fucking roof.

Oddly enough, I recently had an Uber driver who used to teach at the same school I attended for high school years back, we had missed encountering each other there by only a year. They explained to me how on their first day, they were pulled aside and given a talk about how students can show up high or drunk or whatever the fuck as long as they're genuinely trying to learn and do their work. That's how it operated there when I attended, it was wicked useful.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

Essentially every drug is best used in moderation.

Aripiprazole (abilify) is really interesting, I took it during a period of profound mental illness and all it did was make me organized and unhinged whereas beforehand I'd been disorganized and unhinged. Nowadays I'm hinged up like a fucking door though, thankfully, and I'm looking into getting back on Ability at some point if Bupropion keeps making me feel this bipolar rollercoaster bullshit it always pulls out on me as a balancing act to all the focus and energy it gives me too.

It might be the brain damage from past surgeries (was terminally ill for three years, pulled through by chance) but I don't think I've ever experienced anxiety the way other people feel it, so my relationship to benzos is just like if alcohol was really clean feeling and useful. When I was terminal I was rx'd hydromorphone and lorazepam, which was a banging combo but it made me hallucinate weird shit. A friend would swing by my house and we'd have a great chat for an hour or two before I wouldn't even blink and he vanishes, turns out he was never there at all. One time lorazepam convinced me I could see microscopic details of things at any distance, when in reality I can't distinguish 720p from 1080p.

If you want to chat more about GABA induced hallucinations, I'll get a separate thread going for that because between Ambien, Ativan, and Amanitas, there exists some peculiar little dimension of GABA hallucinogens. I'd love to try Tifluadom (for its alleged kappa opioid agonism as well), Z-drugs, and all of the isomers/variants of muscimol and gaboxadol alongside traditional psychedelics to see if they offer any therapeutic benefit or not.

Would love that GABA hallucinogens thread!! And that suuucks. GOD. glad ur doing better tho

 

[Esperighanto]

Would love that GABA hallucinogens thread!! And that suuucks. GOD. glad ur doing better tho

Whipped up the thread here, just trying to keep bluelight nice and tidy.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

Whipped up the thread here, just trying to keep bluelight nice and tidy.

Bless. watching the thread/Bookmarking rn!!

 

[Cream Gravy?]

All good! Never tried MXE (it was in its "prime" when i was 8-13 years old ) or Nitrous tbh... Just know about em a Lot.

I have heard it mixes well with psychs, have you tried 4-AcO-DMT + 3-HO-PCE? I can get 4-ACO easily, or other such tryptamines..
LSD is NOT my jam anymore, but i do a lot of shrooms/shroom-like RCs now, so.

Also, have you tried other disso combos with it? I have access to DXM and might get Ket soon, do these combine well? thank you for the reply!

4-aco-dmt is primarily what I have mixed with it because I have an obscene amount I’ve been chipping away at since 2020. The two combine fantastically and the 3-ho-pce certainly helps alleviate some come up anxiety.

Never mixed it with other dissos though. I haven’t tried ketamine because I’ve never been in a local ‘scene’ and when it comes to DXM I am allergic and it makes me trip too hard at medicinal doses.

Christ you’re young, I recall spending my early to mid twenties using MXE weekly