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Opioids Gabapentin & xanax for opioid withdrawal
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The gabapentin, clonidine and Ativan/ and or Valium really made it easy to stop. Granted morphine is not nearly as strong as fent. I was already on benzos for years, so addiction was not a concern. As noted by others on this thread, use Xanax in moderation and use the gabapentin sparingly. You don't want to trade 1 addiction for 2. Good luck.
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Don't overthink it or fight invisible wars in your head. All you have to do is keep trying and survive. Whether you relapse a billion times or not many people have escaped addiction by never giving up despite how many times they failed. Not everyone survives painkiller addiction. If they did, maybe they would've made it out sooner than later--you never know. Don't give up though!
Man I wish I had xans and a gabapentenoid while WD from opioids.
Wait ... I did have phenibut (still do) but it was just too much load on the body I felt, soooo....
Overthinking. Been hearing that word come up a lot lately in my daily surroundings. I would rather use the term engineering.
Yeah it'll abate relatively quickly (I'm hoping) and then ya get to describe how it feels to be off it... and not dependant on da benzo and/or other.
Take a lot of determination, motive and dedication but we all have that in us somewhere: Finding it is a whole different story.
Be easy and guess we'll see ya about.
Welcome to bluelight if ya haven't already gone through that (well, even if ya have).
Haven't read the whole thread but if needed dig farther in than you ever have and move forward (forget the sliding backs, yeah? ).
And yeah anyone reading this thread don't let horror stories and such ruin gettin off opioids. We can talk ourselves into anything, imo/e.
Best to ya,
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Wait ... I did have phenibut (still do) but it was just too much load on the body I felt, soooo....
Overthinking. Been hearing that word come up a lot lately in my daily surroundings. I would rather use the term engineering.
Yeah it'll abate relatively quickly (I'm hoping) and then ya get to describe how it feels to be off it... and not dependant on da benzo and/or other.
Take a lot of determination, motive and dedication but we all have that in us somewhere: Finding it is a whole different story.
Be easy and guess we'll see ya about.
Welcome to bluelight if ya haven't already gone through that (well, even if ya have).
Haven't read the whole thread but if needed dig farther in than you ever have and move forward (forget the sliding backs, yeah? ).
And yeah anyone reading this thread don't let horror stories and such ruin gettin off opioids. We can talk ourselves into anything, imo/e.
Best to ya,
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silver_lining
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You should absolutely push yourself as far as you can before taking any xanax or gabapentin. Both will potentiate your opiates and make your w/d's much worse and longer. Been there. Your best chance is to pick the right 2-3 days that you can shit yourself and lay in bed... then at your worst moment (yes, it gets worse than that) that is when you could reach for some relief via xanax or gabapentin. Both together will knock you out, so tread lightly.
oh, and it's totally ok to just lay and shit in the bathtub.
Best of luck.
DarkFuel
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Got a grip of gaba but no benzos,which I detest anyway, 3rd attempt to break this 2 year roll on the M's. Doesn't help being in the desert, physically damaged , no job.....30 miles north of Palomas,Mexico we get ours from the independents I'm told. Well for a solid 2 weeks there were total bunk and severely weak M's everywhere and the reals in between ran out. Then our Scion Toaster ate dirt. I'm 5 miles from town so...you got it: Forced Kicker!!!! I went 7 days with fakes then none then yesterday situationed into 3 blues,and they were blue not white, of course didn't ration them....I snort my demon dust.....Eating the gabas like candy...800s 3 at a time......some weakass weed....growlin,howlin,tryin to be active and burn the burn........
martincertain
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Hey - could you elaborate a bit on your experience with phenibut? I've got some coming in the next few days - paws got me forgetting how to go to sleep and I can't take benzos, pregabs/gaba or anything else that is detectably illicit.
Have heard good and bad things about it - does it help with sleep even if heavy? Willing to put up with some consequences just to get 8 hours tbh, but have heard you can form a habit pretty quickly, especially with history of opioid dependance. Weighing up the pros and cons here.
Any help gratefully received!
hey guys, it’s me, gossip girl.
anyways i’m sorry i’ve been MIA over the past few months. been a hell of a ride. but the past week has been crazy. my plug got arrested, no warning, nothing. I had already been planning on kicking so I was stockpiling gabs and xans for when that fateful day came. which was monday 8/19. I panicked, drove around looking for any of the people he associated with. nothing. so that’s when I decided to go grab my supply and put it off. I had dosed that morning so I knew i’d be alright for at least 2 days, minor w/d and everything, plus a xan helps with the sleep and anxiety. I went and visited my brother (I wouldn’t have bc of the no drugs situation, but I promised him so I still went) who lives about an hour away. was fine. slept.
the next day tue 8/20, I drove back home and had a friend who wanted to sell some more xans and gabs in exchange for a ride to her plug, who sells m30s. I knew I was gonna need more gab/xan just in case, but I also figured why not grab a m30 for whatever reason. mind you I had already taken maybe one 1mg xan that day so I was pretty calm, not yet feeling too many withdrawal symptoms (just goosebumps which imo are the worst feelings). this asshole was charging $40 for one pill, so I bought one and we split one. I said fuck it i literally don’t have any other choice. got home, did the half, and felt normal. went to sleep but I think it’s because of the xanax already in my system. i’d learn tomorrow that the perc didn’t do a damn thing.
next day, wed 8/21, I wake up feeling like shit. so I do half the perc i bought yesterday, go and buy one more for my upcoming shift, and I do it. throughout the shift I felt the worst I think i’ve ever felt. it felt like I was crawling out of my skin. sweating but cold. yadda yadda yadda. everyone at my job had had covid over the past month so they think I have covid and send me home early. so what do I do when I get off? I go and buy another 2! I got home and did both and only then did my symptoms kind of go away. that’s when i knew I was fucked bc those m30s were bullshit. but you seek relief where you can find it right?? that’s when I decided, i’m kicking.
DAY 1
I consider this next day, thu 8/22 the 1st day of my detox. throughout the day I acquired vitamin c, magnesium, vitamin d, vit b complex, and tons of body armor electrolyte drinks. I had 30 600mg gabapentin pills and 33 1mg xanax footballs that i’d been stockpiling for this occasion. I was advised by a friend on here, his user is helpingout, if you know you know. but the first day, per usual, was shit. didn’t touch the gab bc it’s better to wait for symptoms to get worse so it’s more effective. I didn’t know if they were gonna work or not, I was very sceptical and very scared. but I took 2 xanax, 2-500mg vit c, my vit b complex, my magnesium, and somehow went to sleep.
DAY 2
woke up in hell. absolute hellllll. got a call from our dear friend helpingout, and he told me to go ahead and take 300mg of the gab and a xan or two, I did. he told me to take a hot shower, that it would help with my temp. I did. fell asleep some time after that for a few hours and woke up feeling shitty but not as shitty. took a 600 gab and another xan, my vitamins but this time with a 600mg ashwaganda tablet. I stayed in bed watching house of the dragon, drinking as many fluids as i could, eating what little I could eat. a bite here, a bite there. spent a few hours in this position, and ended the night with 2 xans and a final 600 gab dose. apparently the ceiling for gab is 1800mg so you don’t wanna go over that, don’t know why, don’t care to find out. but I fell asleep.
DAY 3
woke up. and it was the craziest thing. I felt, kind of normal??!! not great don’t get me wrong but the chills were gone, which is my biggest peeve when i’m detoxing. I called helpingout, he said it’s the gabapentin. I dosed 600mg, without a xan and my vitamins. and watched tv all day. crying when I needed to, i’m a big crier when i’m detoxing. but throughout the day, if I started feeling the symptoms come on, i’d do either 300 or 600 dose of gab, a xan here or there, and i’d make it through the day. by this point im getting nervous because i was like there’s no way I should be feeling this okay right now. but then I thought about it. those shitty fuckin 30s I bought must have acted as some type of mini taper. still felt the symptoms but they probably had such little amount of fent it didn’t really do anything for me. but I went to sleep.
DAY 4
This was today, Sunday 8/25 and I woke up feeling normal. did my first gab dose, 1 xan. vitamins. still mainly surviving off fluids and bites of food here and there. fell asleep. woke up and that’s when the diarrhea hit. now it didn’t last all day bc i had NOTHING on my stomach but electrolyte drinks and water so thank god for that. but I did another dose of gab along with my vitamins and a xan, and fell back asleep. before i did fall asleep it occurred to weigh myself, I have lost 25 pounds over these 4/5 days. so please try and eat something, even if it’s a little bite here and there. Ive been surviving off vitamins and fluids but you still need to eat. i’m typing this part right now, feeling pretty normal. tomorrow will be 5 days without any opiates. I plan on tapering off the gab and xan, from the 30 gabs and 33 xans I started with, I now have 19.5 gabs and 14.5 xans. but when I tell you that without them and the vitamins I listed earlier, this would have been impossible. it’s now 12:17 AM which means Day 5 is starting. i’ll try and keep you guys updated. but I think i’m on my way to kicking opiates (for the third time) but now I know it will never ever work. no matter how much you con yourself into thinking oh just this one time yadda yadda, you will end up dependent and you will have to go through some of the hardest days of your life. you don’t deserve that. sending love to anyone struggling who might be reading this and please reach out if you have any questions. and helpingout, I love you dude.
anyways i’m sorry i’ve been MIA over the past few months. been a hell of a ride. but the past week has been crazy. my plug got arrested, no warning, nothing. I had already been planning on kicking so I was stockpiling gabs and xans for when that fateful day came. which was monday 8/19. I panicked, drove around looking for any of the people he associated with. nothing. so that’s when I decided to go grab my supply and put it off. I had dosed that morning so I knew i’d be alright for at least 2 days, minor w/d and everything, plus a xan helps with the sleep and anxiety. I went and visited my brother (I wouldn’t have bc of the no drugs situation, but I promised him so I still went) who lives about an hour away. was fine. slept.
the next day tue 8/20, I drove back home and had a friend who wanted to sell some more xans and gabs in exchange for a ride to her plug, who sells m30s. I knew I was gonna need more gab/xan just in case, but I also figured why not grab a m30 for whatever reason. mind you I had already taken maybe one 1mg xan that day so I was pretty calm, not yet feeling too many withdrawal symptoms (just goosebumps which imo are the worst feelings). this asshole was charging $40 for one pill, so I bought one and we split one. I said fuck it i literally don’t have any other choice. got home, did the half, and felt normal. went to sleep but I think it’s because of the xanax already in my system. i’d learn tomorrow that the perc didn’t do a damn thing.
next day, wed 8/21, I wake up feeling like shit. so I do half the perc i bought yesterday, go and buy one more for my upcoming shift, and I do it. throughout the shift I felt the worst I think i’ve ever felt. it felt like I was crawling out of my skin. sweating but cold. yadda yadda yadda. everyone at my job had had covid over the past month so they think I have covid and send me home early. so what do I do when I get off? I go and buy another 2! I got home and did both and only then did my symptoms kind of go away. that’s when i knew I was fucked bc those m30s were bullshit. but you seek relief where you can find it right?? that’s when I decided, i’m kicking.
DAY 1
I consider this next day, thu 8/22 the 1st day of my detox. throughout the day I acquired vitamin c, magnesium, vitamin d, vit b complex, and tons of body armor electrolyte drinks. I had 30 600mg gabapentin pills and 33 1mg xanax footballs that i’d been stockpiling for this occasion. I was advised by a friend on here, his user is helpingout, if you know you know. but the first day, per usual, was shit. didn’t touch the gab bc it’s better to wait for symptoms to get worse so it’s more effective. I didn’t know if they were gonna work or not, I was very sceptical and very scared. but I took 2 xanax, 2-500mg vit c, my vit b complex, my magnesium, and somehow went to sleep.
DAY 2
woke up in hell. absolute hellllll. got a call from our dear friend helpingout, and he told me to go ahead and take 300mg of the gab and a xan or two, I did. he told me to take a hot shower, that it would help with my temp. I did. fell asleep some time after that for a few hours and woke up feeling shitty but not as shitty. took a 600 gab and another xan, my vitamins but this time with a 600mg ashwaganda tablet. I stayed in bed watching house of the dragon, drinking as many fluids as i could, eating what little I could eat. a bite here, a bite there. spent a few hours in this position, and ended the night with 2 xans and a final 600 gab dose. apparently the ceiling for gab is 1800mg so you don’t wanna go over that, don’t know why, don’t care to find out. but I fell asleep.
DAY 3
woke up. and it was the craziest thing. I felt, kind of normal??!! not great don’t get me wrong but the chills were gone, which is my biggest peeve when i’m detoxing. I called helpingout, he said it’s the gabapentin. I dosed 600mg, without a xan and my vitamins. and watched tv all day. crying when I needed to, i’m a big crier when i’m detoxing. but throughout the day, if I started feeling the symptoms come on, i’d do either 300 or 600 dose of gab, a xan here or there, and i’d make it through the day. by this point im getting nervous because i was like there’s no way I should be feeling this okay right now. but then I thought about it. those shitty fuckin 30s I bought must have acted as some type of mini taper. still felt the symptoms but they probably had such little amount of fent it didn’t really do anything for me. but I went to sleep.
DAY 4
This was today, Sunday 8/25 and I woke up feeling normal. did my first gab dose, 1 xan. vitamins. still mainly surviving off fluids and bites of food here and there. fell asleep. woke up and that’s when the diarrhea hit. now it didn’t last all day bc i had NOTHING on my stomach but electrolyte drinks and water so thank god for that. but I did another dose of gab along with my vitamins and a xan, and fell back asleep. before i did fall asleep it occurred to weigh myself, I have lost 25 pounds over these 4/5 days. so please try and eat something, even if it’s a little bite here and there. Ive been surviving off vitamins and fluids but you still need to eat. i’m typing this part right now, feeling pretty normal. tomorrow will be 5 days without any opiates. I plan on tapering off the gab and xan, from the 30 gabs and 33 xans I started with, I now have 19.5 gabs and 14.5 xans. but when I tell you that without them and the vitamins I listed earlier, this would have been impossible. it’s now 12:17 AM which means Day 5 is starting. i’ll try and keep you guys updated. but I think i’m on my way to kicking opiates (for the third time) but now I know it will never ever work. no matter how much you con yourself into thinking oh just this one time yadda yadda, you will end up dependent and you will have to go through some of the hardest days of your life. you don’t deserve that. sending love to anyone struggling who might be reading this and please reach out if you have any questions. and helpingout, I love you dude.
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Love you too bud. Happy to see you thriving and diving dipping and dodging. Opiates throw punches. Fent is fucking dirty. Kinda glad the thirties were bunk. Could have ruined what you have now. A decision made with conviction. A plan for a better future. And putting the actual work in to achieve it. Doing the opiate Olympics. The shit runs. The cold plunge. The heat attacks. And you’re just fucking this weeks Olympian. Super stoked to know how you’re handling this. How you’re approaching it. Letting other people know that it is possible to get off opiates. Maybe some doctors on here will consider off label prescriptions of gabapentin for heroin users possibly even lyrics for fentanyl users because you did have that mini taper that might have made the gabapentin more effective. Can’t even describe how proud of you I am. How difficult it is. Me I’m down to six mg of loperamide as the only opiate in. My system and I’m not taking a ppi so it’s just acting ont my body. Hopefully I can drop down to 2 mg tomorrow morning and just kick it there for a while. The road can be walked very slowly. I’ve leapfrogged my way from subs to kratom to 7oh to loperamide and died once along the way. Incredibly grateful for your support. Having some one to talk to. And blue light for giving junkies a way to support each other and to share what works. It’s good to see people practicing harm reduction principles on here and even some people making the decision to stop using drugs. Sure do love drugs but I am also sure that I’m done. I just can’t. Might be forced to in the future and I’ll accept that. With gratitude for the privilege of having relief from pain. But in the present, the here and now, it’s been extremely relieving to put everything down. To stabilise. To look at my unpinned eyes for the first time in seven years. To see myself through my own experiences with the backing of people like you Anthony and the entire forum. So much more recovery work to do. Probably going to have to be vigilant forever because I have a dark mistress a harrowing heroine. Not much to do but accept it and take the present moment for my own benefit. Glad to be Innthe same boat rowing along side you.
hey guys. it’s day 12??? idk all I know is that i’m good now. I kicked the motherfuckin fent addiction!!!!! i’m not gonna lie it was not easy. but using gabapentin trying to keep it 3x a day and under 1800mg, a xan here or there (do not replace one with the other, and definitely not essential), some vitamin c 1g 2x a day, magnesium 2x a day, vitamin b-complex, and lots of water, body armor, whatever way you can stay hydrated and keep nutrients in your body. you can kick it. if you can find a supply of gabapentin, enough to dose 3x a day, you’ll make it to day 3/4 and be surprised at how normal you feel. stomach still kinda fucked but that’s wayyyyyy better than the withdrawal. I worked this weekend!! without getting high on fentanyl. what a life. 
if anyone has any questions or needs help please reach out. love yall and hope yall are making today better however u need to.
if anyone has any questions or needs help please reach out. love yall and hope yall are making today better however u need to.
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That's great to hear man! Keep it going, one day (or moment) at a time.hey guys. it’s day 12??? idk all I know is that i’m good now. I kicked the motherfuckin fent addiction!!!!! i’m not gonna lie it was not easy. but using gabapentin trying to keep it 3x a day and under 1800mg, a xan here or there (do not replace one with the other, and definitely not essential), some vitamin c 1g 2x a day, magnesium 2x a day, vitamin b-complex, and lots of water, body armor, whatever way you can stay hydrated and keep nutrients in your body. you can kick it. if you can find a supply of gabapentin, enough to dose 3x a day, you’ll make it to day 3/4 and be surprised at how normal you feel. stomach still kinda fucked but that’s wayyyyyy better than the withdrawal. I worked this weekend!! without getting high on fentanyl. what a life.
I'm going through a similar situation but it was with Soma & Zopiclone. I had used them to get off benzos and turned into a nasty year long habit. I finally tapered and quit, but after 3 days without anything I gave in to taking some Valium. 5mg at a time, 4 times a day max. It's been 8 days with no pills except the Valium. I need to taper down like 5mg every few days SOON, or i'll be dependent on Valium.. again. Those w'd are so ugly. It's a slippery slope, I love mixing all that shit together with tapentadol (synthetic opioid). But man my panic attacks and anxiety was out the roof, i'm glad i can control the Valium for now. I've only taken a total of 140mg over the last week, so nothing crazy. Pretty sub standard. Your right, magnesium bisglycinate really helps, along with H20 and vitamins like D, C, and chamomile tea.
I'm scared to touch my loose M30's or Watson's because of the fent. Thanks for sharing.
yeah anything m30 related that’s not prescribed is a gamble I would not take. just keep going man. i’m not too familiar with valium and the withdrawals that come with that, but if you can keep trying that’s all that counts. keep it controlled and taper if you can. i’m here to talk if you need an ear.
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same
Man try one gabapentin pill first...I personally hate the feeling. I'll take half then it slowly creeps on and chills you out but then it gets stronger a few hours later and the high is more of like being drunk if you ask me.
I was taking ER Addy and popped a half of gabby.. to even shit out(I don't like being in geeked out phase on stims) then I decided to pop the other half, which was a stagger by accident and I was in a proper zombie mode...fucked off gabapentin and eyes dilated from Addy.
Just saying, try it first. You need to know where you sit with gabapentin drugs and yeah apparently Lyrica is stronger, hell I bought powdered phenibut(similar drug as gabapentin or lyrica) and it made my RLS worse and almost couldn't walk because of the inebriated feel not to mention the next day being zonked out too.
Just saying it's sometimes better to deal with wd in a cleaner way, I think gabapentin would be helpful but take it sparingly. Take half and get the feel. I have read of H addicts obliterating wd symptoms from Lyrica and gabapentin but they took so much it basically knocked them out or into submission for a few days, which is what they wanted...for me I still need to function with family and work so hitting the fuck off switch for 4 days was never an option.
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Good job dude! It's one thing to get clean, but the hard part is to stay that way. When you get antsy, just remember how much better you feelhey guys. it’s day 12??? idk all I know is that i’m good now. I kicked the motherfuckin fent addiction!!!!! i’m not gonna lie it was not easy. but using gabapentin trying to keep it 3x a day and under 1800mg, a xan here or there (do not replace one with the other, and definitely not essential), some vitamin c 1g 2x a day, magnesium 2x a day, vitamin b-complex, and lots of water, body armor, whatever way you can stay hydrated and keep nutrients in your body. you can kick it. if you can find a supply of gabapentin, enough to dose 3x a day, you’ll make it to day 3/4 and be surprised at how normal you feel. stomach still kinda fucked but that’s wayyyyyy better than the withdrawal. I worked this weekend!! without getting high on fentanyl. what a life.
Why don't you use Kratom for withdrawals? I used Kratom for 3 days and didn't have any withdrawal symptoms.
Same
Is that not just trading? Unless you do a very perfect taper and have a lot of discipline
Good luck, I know it's not good to replace substance with another substance, but smoking Ice helps me with withdrawals.
Out of my curiosity, just asking,
How did you get a prescription for Xanax?
That would be so lovely,
I love Xanax. For pain and sleeping. Hoping that you get through it, without fent. and soon,
