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Tenth Day Of Tramadol WD

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Direwolf131

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Entered my tenth day of fucking tramadol wd, not a jot of sleep in tens days, literally, I am a walking talking zombie!

While the overall cessation syndrome was much more tolerable due to intentional micro-dosing, with no real classical opiate wd whatsoever, I have yet to sleep a jot!

I am literally starting to believe I will never sleep again, its absolutely the fucking worst, I'd take a 3-5 day oxy wd any ol time over this shit!
 
TheFunkeeJunkee said:
I'll include you in my prayer tonight. You got this brother.
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Thank you kindly, I just wonder how long can this go on, its been ten freaking days, I have gabapentin but tossed that crap out as it made me uber sedated, but still no sleep, and uber sedated without ability to sleep, is uber bad fucking news!
 
Its too bad the site doesn't have a permanent page open so sad sacks who are wide awake due to drug detoxification can at least hang out with other sad sacks and share the misery, I'd give a fucking nut for just three hours of sleep!
 
Direwolf131 said:
Its too bad the site doesn't have a permanent page open so sad sacks who are wide awake due to drug detoxification can at least hang out with other sad sacks and share the misery, I'd give a fucking nut for just three hours of sleep!
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Well there is bl discord and you get people up at all hours for various reasons on there.

In regards to tramadol wd i wonder would diphenhydramine help? I know when i was coming off effexor which is a snri it did help abit and tramadol is also a snri
 
paranoid android said:
Well there is bl discord and you get people up at all hours for various reasons on there.

In regards to tramadol wd i wonder would diphenhydramine help? I know when i was coming off effexor which is a snri it did help abit and tramadol is also a snri
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I have some, I also have some gabapentin, but the gabapentin made me so tired and I still can't sleep, so I just decided to DC the gabapentin altogether.

For me, being sedated and unable to snooze is worse than just dealing with the insomnia, I've never had such a stretch before, coming off of hydro was a cakewalk compared to this, that was three days and done, this just goes on, and on, and on....

At least my cat is happy, as I hang with him all night...
 
Direwolf131 said:
Its too bad the site doesn't have a permanent page open so sad sacks who are wide awake due to drug detoxification can at least hang out with other sad sacks and share the misery, I'd give a fucking nut for just three hours of sleep!
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Start a thread in 'The Lounge" part of this website. Title "Can't Sleep" or something like that
 
Direwolf131 said:
Its too bad the site doesn't have a permanent page open so sad sacks who are wide awake due to drug detoxification can at least hang out with other sad sacks and share the misery, I'd give a fucking nut for just three hours of sleep!
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The Lounge sounds a bit like what you aiming at.

But it does require some skills, as the Lounge is Lawless. Its not even there if your not logged in!
The replys fly through one another. There is no logic in the topic and replys in some or all the threads.
As they derail continues.Some people feel its ok to irritate or insult other posters.
Bluelighters, mods and ex mods called crew-members, everything seems allowed.
Except sourcing probably? But its not moderated like the rest of the fora.

So how solid is your ground atm would go you go there, if its a vulnerable state? Dont go in there.
Or at least put on some dirty boots and put up your shield, that seems the minimal requirement.
Then you are ready to share misery, wonder how the balance between positiv and ridiculous replys is?
In the Lounge. Its not a friendly place ime.

Otherwise the Darkside might be better, as there the Bluelight rules apply. So its moderated.
Less chance to get hurt, and higher rate of back up. And the threads are kept on track.

But your doing it this should be your 11-th day, keep it up. Dont look back.

In case a relapse is on the corner have you considered Kratom. Which is also addicting.
And a Opiod, but ime the WDs of a 10 gram habit tapered in a few days is not so bad.
Stayed functional during them, not feeling 100 %, but handleable.
Not like the 10 day WD-hell of Tramadol you describe. Insomnia sucks, so I know what you mean.
 
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Interestingly I am now experiencing genuine anxiety on day 11, the type I associate with opiate cessation syndrome, this is 11 freaking days into it folks, what the fuck? I cold cut from hydro (vicoprofen 7.5 mg x 8 daily) in 2011 after two years of daily use, and as rough as that was it was all over and done with by fourth day, I mean literally I felt great and free of it, not this tramadol shit though, this shit just goes on and on and on...
 
Direwolf131 said:
Interestingly I am now experiencing genuine anxiety on day 11, the type I associate with opiate cessation syndrome, this is 11 freaking days into it folks, what the fuck? I cold cut from hydro (vicoprofen 7.5 mg x 8 daily) in 2011 after two years of daily use, and as rough as that was it was all over and done with by fourth day, I mean literally I felt great and free of it, not this tramadol shit though, this shit just goes on and on and on...
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Yea tramadol withdrawal is a different beast than hydro, percs, ect. It lasts a lot longer. You are withdrawing from an SNRI and a synthetic opioid at the same time. It lasts for a while, but it will get better eventually.
 
AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
Yea tramadol withdrawal is a different beast than hydro, percs, ect. It lasts a lot longer. You are withdrawing from an SNRI and a synthetic opioid at the same time. It lasts for a while, but it will get better eventually.
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Its some sinister shit, I've never experienced cessation anxiety two weeks after stopping before, still zero sleep, wow, just wow!
 
Not a jot of sleep, its pointless, and actually torturous to even lay down upon bed, I am so fucking tired of this horror...
 
Yeah Tramadol is absolute hell. Congrats on sticking it out, my ass always had to fold usually for hydrocodone or something. At LEAST benzos on deck but yeah when nothing around and/or completely broke makes it 10x worse.

Loperamide, pepto, kratom, I get the worst rls from trams and I think clonidine helps alot with that which I never got my hands on back when I was addicted to high doses of tramadol....fuck shit is like trauma for real
 
Direwolf131 said:
Entered my tenth day of fucking tramadol wd, not a jot of sleep in tens days, literally, I am a walking talking zombie!

While the overall cessation syndrome was much more tolerable due to intentional micro-dosing, with no real classical opiate wd whatsoever, I have yet to sleep a jot!

I am literally starting to believe I will never sleep again, its absolutely the fucking worst, I'd take a 3-5 day oxy wd any ol time over this shit!
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10 days? I'm confused. Are you in pain mgt or just take oxy most every day? How much do you normally take daily? Are you drinking more caffeine laden beverages? Pepsi? Diet coke? What has changed in your daily routine over the last ten days? Is there another substance you reduced intake? Something has changed to promote this insomnia...work issues? Personal issues? Can you get some benzos, ie, valium, Xanax, Ativan, clorazapam, from your doctor to smooth you out for a week or two? Think about what has changed over the last 10 days. I'm sure you will figure out if its a work or personal issue or a dietary issue/change in meds issue or perhaps a combination of both. I'm a very light sleeper, who doesn't get much sleep, so I feel your pain. If I can provide anymore ideas, let me know my friend....
 
jerseyshark said:
10 days? I'm confused. Are you in pain mgt or just take oxy most every day? How much do you normally take daily? Are you drinking more caffeine laden beverages? Pepsi? Diet coke? What has changed in your daily routine over the last ten days? Is there another substance you reduced intake? Something has changed to promote this insomnia...work issues? Personal issues? Can you get some benzos, ie, valium, Xanax, Ativan, clorazapam, from your doctor to smooth you out for a week or two? Think about what has changed over the last 10 days. I'm sure you will figure out if its a work or personal issue or a dietary issue/change in meds issue or perhaps a combination of both. I'm a very light sleeper, who doesn't get much sleep, so I feel your pain. If I can provide anymore ideas, let me know my friend....
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Pain clinic closed doors in November, treated with tramadol for almost 12 years, 300 + mg daily, primary provider forced me off of it, this is the longest stretch in all that time absent tramadol. Tramadol wd annihilates your sleep, you are not gonna sleep after cold cutting this shit, in fact the first five days of wd are profoundly deceptive, you cannot sleep, but you also don't have the absolute worst of wd syndrome either, at least not me, not yet. Its after day five or six, that the weirdness kicks in, right when you feel it should be over, it seems to dig in on you even more, and just go on and on and on... Weird rls in both legs and arms, particularly from under arm all the down inside of arm tickling sensations, right at the moment you start to drift off, instant alarm clock. I do not believe I have slept a jot in almost two weeks, and that really screws with you.... I was on this shit a long, long time, its as if the real wd waits for a few days to kick in, then it hangs around, taking its own sweet time.
 
Opana313 said:
Yeah Tramadol is absolute hell. Congrats on sticking it out, my ass always had to fold usually for hydrocodone or something. At LEAST benzos on deck but yeah when nothing around and/or completely broke makes it 10x worse.

Loperamide, pepto, kratom, I get the worst rls from trams and I think clonidine helps alot with that which I never got my hands on back when I was addicted to high doses of tramadol....fuck shit is like trauma for real
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If I had some hydro the deed would already have been done, even tylenol 3's would be heaven sent, I have gabapentin but DC'd it as it sedated the shit out of me, but still no fucking sleep, which made it even worse!

My vicoprofen wd in 2011 was absolute cake compared with this, and that was a cold cut from as much as 95 mg a day of ibuprofen delivered hydrocodone.
 
Direwolf131 said:
Pain clinic closed doors in November, treated with tramadol for almost 12 years, 300 + mg daily, primary provider forced me off of it, this is the longest stretch in all that time absent tramadol. Tramadol wd annihilates your sleep, you are not gonna sleep after cold cutting this shit, in fact the first five days of wd are profoundly deceptive, you cannot sleep, but you also don't have the absolute worst of wd syndrome either, at least not me, not yet. Its after day five or six, that the weirdness kicks in, right when you feel it should be over, it seems to dig in on you even more, and just go on and on and on... Weird rls in both legs and arms, particularly from under arm all the down inside of arm tickling sensations, right at the moment you start to drift off, instant alarm clock. I do not believe I have slept a jot in almost two weeks, and that really screws with you.... I was on this shit a long, long time, its as if the real wd waits for a few days to kick in, then it hangs around, taking its own sweet time.
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Direwolf131 said:
Pain clinic closed doors in November, treated with tramadol for almost 12 years, 300 + mg daily, primary provider forced me off of it, this is the longest stretch in all that time absent tramadol. Tramadol wd annihilates your sleep, you are not gonna sleep after cold cutting this shit, in fact the first five days of wd are profoundly deceptive, you cannot sleep, but you also don't have the absolute worst of wd syndrome either, at least not me, not yet. Its after day five or six, that the weirdness kicks in, right when you feel it should be over, it seems to dig in on you even more, and just go on and on and on... Weird rls in both legs and arms, particularly from under arm all the down inside of arm tickling sensations, right at the moment you start to drift off, instant alarm clock. I do not believe I have slept a jot in almost two weeks, and that really screws with you.... I was on this shit a long, long time, its as if the real wd waits for a few days to kick in, then it hangs around, taking its own sweet time.
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The pain clinic you went to for 12 years closed last November? Didn't they offer new offices/docs prior to closing? Why tramadol? From a pain clinic? To me it sounds odd, because my pain clinic has given me oxy 15mg, qty 120 per month. Giving anyone 300 mg of tramadol daily is crazy. What conditions were you diagnosed ? Why didn't they give you oxycodone or perks, or hydrocodone? Tramadol is usually given by your primary doc you see once or twice a year, not from a pain mgt/clinic . Usually tramadol is for mild, mild pain...The 300mg daily for 12 years blows my mind. Why didn't they give you suboxone? Why didn't you go to another pain mgt/clinic, or, at the least ask your primary to cover you until you did? Everyone has there reasons, but you need to give us the complete picture of your original diagnosis, reasons you started pain mgt, and why you were cut off after 12 years last November, and what you have done since? I understand your wds, but I'm not understanding why after 12 year's your pain clinic did not give you new clinics to choose, and the gap from November to now. Primary provider forced you off? Were seeing a doctor at a clinic? Or were you in pain management seeing a pain management doc at a pain management clinic? Sounds like you were going to a medical clinic. The doc, not a pain mgt doc, decided to stop the tramadol after 12 years, which , should have never been issued for 12 years. This "clinic", however, should have reduced your dosage prior to closing to wean you off. You can always go to the emergency room at local hospital if your current provider will not provide you opiates for treatment. I would seek treatment immediately. Your health is most important.
 
jerseyshark said:
The pain clinic you went to for 12 years closed last November? Didn't they offer new offices/docs prior to closing? Why tramadol? From a pain clinic? To me it sounds odd, because my pain clinic has given me oxy 15mg, qty 120 per month. Giving anyone 300 mg of tramadol daily is crazy. What conditions were you diagnosed ? Why didn't they give you oxycodone or perks, or hydrocodone? Tramadol is usually given by your primary doc you see once or twice a year, not from a pain mgt/clinic . Usually tramadol is for mild, mild pain...The 300mg daily for 12 years blows my mind. Why didn't they give you suboxone? Why didn't you go to another pain mgt/clinic, or, at the least ask your primary to cover you until you did? Everyone has there reasons, but you need to give us the complete picture of your original diagnosis, reasons you started pain mgt, and why you were cut off after 12 years last November, and what you have done since? I understand your wds, but I'm not understanding why after 12 year's your pain clinic did not give you new clinics to choose, and the gap from November to now. Primary provider forced you off? Were seeing a doctor at a clinic? Or were you in pain management seeing a pain management doc at a pain management clinic? Sounds like you were going to a medical clinic. The doc, not a pain mgt doc, decided to stop the tramadol after 12 years, which , should have never been issued for 12 years. This "clinic", however, should have reduced your dosage prior to closing to wean you off. You can always go to the emergency room at local hospital if your current provider will not provide you opiates for treatment. I would seek treatment immediately. Your health is most important.
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It used to be 400 mg a day for the first two years, I broke my neck in 2005 and I have had been declared permanently disabled in 2009 which chronic spinal issues. Tramadol is not really for mild pain, it was actually explained to me as perfect for moderately severe pain, but not so for everyone! I'm one of the people who actually metabolizes the substance, which results in a much more potent full agonist as opposed to the partial agonism tramadol is known for.

As for the pain clinic, well think about it, this was at the height of the opioid crisis, so the very same MD's who lied their lips off to me about tramadol not being an opioid at all, suddenly couldn't wash hands of me fast enough, so they punt you to the pain clinic, and I survived there for just shy of 12-years. When clinic shuttered in November, I was offered referral to another pain clinic, problem is there are none, none at all within hundreds of miles of me, and primary provider, motivated by that opioid crisis auto cuts your script every month until its gone altogether!

Good luck to you finding a clinic these days, there are none, not taking new patients anyway, its been fully corporatized, there are no more private clinics accessible to average Joe's run by dedicated md's, those are long gone, all that is left in their place are the ludicrous "interventional" pain clinics, injections, nerve blocks, and physical therapy, thats it, which is full circle for me as that is where all of this BS started at back in the day, injections and nerve blocks. which did not work then, and I will not even consider today...
 
Direwolf131 said:
It used to be 400 mg a day for the first two years, I broke my neck in 2005 and I have had been declared permanently disabled in 2009 which chronic spinal issues. Tramadol is not really for mild pain, it was actually explained to me as perfect for moderately severe pain, but not so for everyone! I'm one of the people who actually metabolizes the substance, which results in a much more potent full agonist as opposed to the partial agonism tramadol is known for.

As for the pain clinic, well think about it, this was at the height of the opioid crisis, so the very same MD's who lied their lips off to me about tramadol not being an opioid at all, suddenly couldn't wash hands of me fast enough, so they punt you to the pain clinic, and I survived there for just shy of 12-years. When clinic shuttered in November, I was offered referral to another pain clinic, problem is there are none, none at all within hundreds of miles of me, and primary provider, motivated by that opioid crisis auto cuts your script every month until its gone altogether!

Good luck to you finding a clinic these days, there are none, not taking new patients anyway, its been fully corporatized, there are no more private clinics accessible to average Joe's run by dedicated md's, those are long gone, all that is left in their place are the ludicrous "interventional" pain clinics, injections, nerve blocks, and physical therapy, thats it, which is full circle for me as that is where all of this BS started at back in the day, injections and nerve blocks. which did not work then, and I will not even consider today...
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Ok. If your provider cut you back until you were off tramadol, then you didn't wd. I'm guessing the current tramadol wd your experiencing didn't come from the clinic because its closed last November. Whatever. This explains your was. Your supply chain was severed. I would ask your current primary provider to send your pharmacy some benzos, say a two week supply. Kratom capsules might help, but, same as benzos, use for 2 weeks then cease. I'm sorry you had such an horrid experience, but I hope your feeling better soon. JS
 
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