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☠ WARNING ☠ Be careful with Nitrous Oxide - nerve damage, paralysis, anemia, high homocysteine.

Oh yeah - forgot about this side effect: BAD stomach issues!

At the time I didn’t connect it to nitrous use but my stomach kept inflating like a balloon like suddenly I was way sensitive to most foods but especially things with a lot of fat or red meat. I went to the doctors got ultrasounds and x rays, only problem it showed was constipation. But it was like I just couldn’t eat normal anymore. One big meal and bam… balloon stomach that hurt bad and it would stay like that for a couple days and I had to quit eating so it would go back down.

Also a ton of farting, belching, and it felt like there was air or some gas that I could not burp up.

Thankfully it appears that this side effect also went away after quitting nitrous.
 
Oh yeah - forgot about this side effect: BAD stomach issues!
Well since you posted this a little research does show people taking nitrous to new levels. I really always thought that it was just in the literature. Crazy.

Glad this was stickied, thanks all.
 
How many dang wrippets did you do? 50 carts a day for a year?

I did 50 carts on average a day for around 18 months.

Main thing it fucked with is my lungs. Although they appear fine on a CT scan. But i find the way i breathe ever since is weird. Its almost like i take a "hit" of air and hold it in. Just like i did with nitrous.
 
and took high dose methyl B-12 and it still caught up to me
I haven't read the article, but according to this abstract, "it is important to treat vitamin B12 deficiency with a combination of MeCbl and AdCbl or hydroxocobalamin or Cbl"
(Therefore, not methylcobalamin alone)
 
I was doing lots of nitrous since Covid (2020) and took high dose methyl B-12 and it still caught up to me. Last time was in June with those big tanks they sell at head shops. I used to get like 4 of the 650g ones for a session, sometimes 2-3 times a week. It’s the most addictive most fun drug lol..

Anyways, last time I did it, a slow numbing effect started ramping up the next day (even loading up on tons of B-12) and kept building and started making it near impossible to walk. It kept getting slowly worse so went to the hospital. It was throwing tons more stuff out of wack.. like blood tests would be swinging all over the place for several things.

Thankfully most of it did go away after 2 months but I still sometimes notice a nerve damage buzzing sensation if I tip my head downward. I can walk fine and I don’t notice any mental effects so that’s good. I was taking B-12 the entire time so I would guess that people who do much less of it without taking B12 would have this stuff happen quicker/with less use.

The numbing effect on feet/hands also did go away. This experience was enough to get me to stop finally and I don’t crave it much although I do miss it… there’s no safer drug like it which sucks. It’s such a fun time. It’s like a guaranteed positive spiritual trip.

I used to buy 4 x 50 packs of whippets before they were selling those tanks for a session and just did one at a time (well.. the good quality ones that weren’t stingy on the gas in them) listening to music. Sooo fun. Sooo expensive though. The tanks started to become cheaper and so I prob was doing way more damage with those.

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How another thing I’m puzzled about is I think all that nitrous may have somehow got rid of years of depression. Maybe I damaged some part of my mind that was making me depressed? I just don’t have all the negative thoughts anymore but maybe that was my own doing. I started forcefully telling the negative inner voice to shut the f up anytime it said something dumb, not useful, too negative.

I used to go to work for a full day then halfway thru the day I’d start fantasizing about what I was gonna do on my trip after work. I’d get off work and RUN to the head shop sooo excited. I wasted so much money but damn it was fun.

I just thought I’d share since it seems like nitrous use is on the rise with headshops every mile block selling them.. it can become super addictive super fast. I’ve never experienced such cravings and impulses with any other substance.
Iv done a bunch of nitrous and Ketamine this year. It's done similar things your speaking of, iv grown up and worked through a lot of past trauma and have came to a understanding and realization about things on all levels.

Went through a 12 year break up where I was treated dirty af for zero reason at all when I'm killing myself trying to help everyone around me. Knowing I'd have a problem(past experience with K, MXE and nitrous)I bought to much K for anyone to have and went to town. Got a nice lil K addiction I'm tapering because I'll feel like I'm having a seizure cold turkey.(1-2g a day)

Quit dissociatives now if you have the chance. If it gets worse it'll be to late and have a whole new set of problems. Shit will kill you or make you a veggie pissing all over yourself. I say this as someone who loves dissociatives and drugs looking out.

I'm a big believer in hanging up the phone when you finally catch the dragon. Leave it be and go about life. You don't need the shit trust me, dissociatives that is im not recommending anyone sobriety. Is my 2 cents on it.

We'll see more problems with dissociatives and addiction mark my words. I cannot believe how acceptable it's become. Like there's no negative side effects.
 
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The dose is def the poison with nitrous, frequency is probably even more important to manage.

I know some people who pound down insane amounts a few times per year without issues.
Im talking the big tanks that they have at parties etc.

They usually have a few tanks to sell baloons and then split a tank between a few people etc.

But everyone i know who has gotten issues have done smaller amounts but more often.
So its most likely that you need enough time betala sessions to let the body recover from whatever issues the gas can cause.
 
never got more than around 10 cartr. each 8g a day.....not much.....rare.cases exist -people got a lot of....inhale irectly from ballon...exhale directly in balloon....u can suffocate this way...too much CO2...need precautions and take it easy....very short buzz....can't imagine do all night this and it is nnot healthy at all to overused this
 
We use N2O on most trips, and those experiences are maybe 3-5 times a year these days. Average intake is probably ~50-75 Ultra Pure Whip cartridges over the length of the experience. A little more for an 8-12 hour ride and less for a shorter trip etc. I've never had any ill effects from nitrous use, but also lead a very health and fitness focused lifestyle and supplement with sublingual B12 daily.

One thing I did have to learn is that the 'magic' of nitrous has diminishing returns, and I had to learn to know when that 'moreish' feeling kicks in that it's time to put the gas down. Went through ~300 cartridges by myself almost on autopilot over the course of a day when I was younger and first started experimenting with it. I didn't suffer any bad effects but just being in that headspace kinda scared me.

The beauty N2O can impart to a psychedelic experience can not be understated, but it does carry with it some personal responsibility. Best to keep that in mind and not learn it the hard way.
 
Did about 2 and a half tanks of 620g each on NYE.(1tank=85whippets)
Had a combo trip with 220mg MD and about 20mg 4acodmt.

Preloaded with B-Vitamin complex and made sure to take more yesterday and today.

Havent done nitrous in over a year before either so feel quite fine.
Mostly abit down from the MD but havent done that in 2years so not to bad all in all.

Had a great roll and was feeling it for well over 5h inc a small refill (did 150+70mg)

Def not gonna touch any M for at least 6months and no nitrous for at least 3.

These things are so much better when doing sparingly.


YMMV but i really believe that frequency is the most important factor along with having enough B12 in your body when doing it.
 
Did about 2 and a half tanks of 620g each on NYE.(1tank=85whippets)
Had a combo trip with 220mg MD and about 20mg 4acodmt.

Preloaded with B-Vitamin complex and made sure to take more yesterday and today.

Havent done nitrous in over a year before either so feel quite fine.
Mostly abit down from the MD but havent done that in 2years so not to bad all in all.

Had a great roll and was feeling it for well over 5h inc a small refill (did 150+70mg)

Def not gonna touch any M for at least 6months and no nitrous for at least 3.

These things are so much better when doing sparingly.


YMMV but i really believe that frequency is the most important factor along with having enough B12 in your body when doing it.

Frequency is definitely the most important mediator of toxicity.

However, I'd recommend that everyone filter their gas, since that can cause a whole different form of toxicity from inhaling oils (these new large tanks are greasier than the old 8g whippets). You can filter the oil in many different ways, but at minimum buy a little fuel filter (usually for motorcycles or lawnmowers).

Or, at the very, very least, get some N95 type masks and cut them up, and wrap it around whatever you're inhaling it from. You can use rubber bands to hold it in place.
 
Frequency is definitely the most important mediator of toxicity.

However, I'd recommend that everyone filter their gas, since that can cause a whole different form of toxicity from inhaling oils (these new large tanks are greasier than the old 8g whippets). You can filter the oil in many different ways, but at minimum buy a little fuel filter (usually for motorcycles or lawnmowers).

Or, at the very, very least, get some N95 type masks and cut them up, and wrap it around whatever you're inhaling it from. You can use rubber bands to hold it in place.
Thats a good idea, also becauce sometimes these tanks will throw small bits of ice down your throat lol.
 
I have since learned that a lot of people were doing mega amounts during Covid lockdowns. Someone who lived near me actually did get permanently paralyzed from it. He slightly recovered but it’s still hard for him to walk… after many months or maybe a full year of not doing it.
 
I'm just so glad that these big tanks werent around back when I was using nitrous on a daily basis a decade ago. Back then, my daily usage was 3 boxes of the 50 count little 8 gram whippet chargers.

That's 150 8 gram chargers a day, which is 1,200 grams a day total. A total of 1,200g/day is still alot of nitrous oxide (that's over 2.5 pounds of gas). But now you can buy tanks at any smoke shop, with some containing 2100 grams of gas. I was fortunate enough to walk away apparently unscathed (although I surely did some sort of damage), but had these new tanks been around I might have done more damage.

Same goes with street fentanyl. When I was using tar heroin over a decade ago, it was almost unheard of to find fentanyl on the street. Now you'd be hard-pressed to find fent-free tar heroin. I used a shitload of IV tar heroin and never came close to ODing. I even used alot of pharmaceutical fentanyl, and never OD'ed, because I knew exactly how much I was taking (although I probably came closer to ODing with fentanyl; that was back when fentanyl patches were the pouch-type and could be easily prepared for injection -- I would find myself waking up face down on the floor after injecting it, all banged up from falling). But street fent was almost nonexistent. Had it been around I inevitably would have used it, and might not be around today.

The drug scene is pretty dangerous these days, real heroin is a ghost, and all the fun RC stimulants the were around a decade ago are now long gone.
 
I saw a guy down at the smoke / vape shop buying a big ass tank..

It got me wondering….

If I have recovered 99.3%, and it’s been a long ass time… like 9 months, if I were to get a SMALL tank I wonder if it will be enough to bring any of that shit back. I really want just ONE TEENY TINY tank of FUN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Man I really wish there was some other drugs that are as good. I don’t wanna have a normal trip, every drug is boring nowadays except this one.

I bet I would like diethyl ether.

It just starts pouring rain hard just as I was gonna walk to that store lolzzz
 
This shit fucked up my lung where I would have bad stabbing pains that would last weeks after use.

Later it collapsed a lung. Very scary I couldn’t breath barley and had to spend 10 days in the hospital
 
This shit fucked up my lung where I would have bad stabbing pains that would last weeks after use.

Later it collapsed a lung. Very scary I couldn’t breath barley and had to spend 10 days in the hospital
Jeez, I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope you healed. How much did you do and how often? And did you just use a whipcream dispenser with balloons or a tank or what?
 
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