Dissociatives 3-meo-pcp / ketamine. Living life dissociated.

[yungplague]

I will cut to the chase. Spending ~$200/day on ketamine to satisfy my hunger for this altered state of mind is simply not an option. I bring up 3-meo because it is the only other arylcyclohexylamine that I have tried, and although I have not spent much time collecting information from the internet over the prices and availability of 3-meo or the ingredients used to properly synthesize this substance, I would imagine that it would be cheaper and easier to get than ketamine. I'm sure you have connected the dots by now. I am reaching out, requesting any information of how one would obtain this research chemical. In the meantime I will further research the chemical makeup of 3meo and sources in which to obtain those ingredients. I am very savvy in chemistry and subscribe to the idea that anything is possible.

 

[TheLightBringer]

I cant help you since sourcing isnt allowed and I am not versed in the synthesis of arylcyclohexylamines. Only thing I will tell you is that I would seriously refrain from using 3-MeO-PCP if youre a daily disso abuser. Trust me when I say that you have never used a substance like this, 3-MeO is just so potent and unpredictable and is almost guaranteed to induce full blow mania from daily use.

I went on a 2 week 3-MeO and stimulant binge and induced mania for about a month with symptoms of psychosis. Almost everyone Ive witnessed who has used it for more than 3 days in a row start getting into manic territory fast.

Daily 3-MeO-PCP use and responsible use cant coexist. If youre dead set on replacing your daily ket use I would look into DeschloroKetamine/2-OXO-PCM but it has anti microbial properties and I dont know what the repercussions of using that daily would be.

 

[yungplague]

I appreciate your reply and your concern for a strangers well-being . I am a new member to bluelight, though I used to read through trip reports for hours on end on this site and erowid while attending high-school and college from 2012-2016. I respect the rules of this site. I wanted to put that out there because I would like to be a contributing member of this community. I may have not made it very clear in my post, I was at the doctor's office picking up my Adderall script and my lamotrigine script. I bring this up because I have read that lamotrigine (aka lamictal) acts as sort of an antagonist against the psychotic / manic effects that k or 3meo may have on a person. I didn't read into it or anything, it doesn't even feel worth bringing up, I take Lamictal for a completely different reason and I've been on it for 10 years now. Anyways, I used to take 3-meo-pcp religiously for about a year. This was 7 years ago when I was 22. I was working full time. I worked construction and also at a morgue. I was able to dose fairly responsibly when I had to, but by night, I was in my phase of partying and doing a wide variety of drugs. I was going to concerts, I didn't care about much, xans and percs everyday, it was pretty bad. But that was a long time ago. I only want to do this one class of drug in a consistent manner. I was able to handle my 3-meo use very well. I will look into those other chemicals that you mentioned though. Thank you again.

 

[Esperighanto]

I appreciate your reply and your concern for a strangers well-being . I am a new member to bluelight, though I used to read through trip reports for hours on end on this site and erowid while attending high-school and college from 2012-2016. I respect the rules of this site. I wanted to put that out there because I would like to be a contributing member of this community. I may have not made it very clear in my post, I was at the doctor's office picking up my Adderall script and my lamotrigine script. I bring this up because I have read that lamotrigine (aka lamictal) acts as sort of an antagonist against the psychotic / manic effects that k or 3meo may have on a person. I didn't read into it or anything, it doesn't even feel worth bringing up, I take Lamictal for a completely different reason and I've been on it for 10 years now. Anyways, I used to take 3-meo-pcp religiously for about a year. This was 7 years ago when I was 22. I was working full time. I worked construction and also at a morgue. I was able to dose fairly responsibly when I had to, but by night, I was in my phase of partying and doing a wide variety of drugs. I was going to concerts, I didn't care about much, xans and percs everyday, it was pretty bad. But that was a long time ago. I only want to do this one class of drug in a consistent manner. I was able to handle my 3-meo use very well. I will look into those other chemicals that you mentioned though. Thank you again.

My boyfriend takes lamotrigine and can certainly be rocketed into 3-MeO-PCP induced mania, it's still possible for sure.

You should try to find dissociatives that are less toxic than arylcyclohexylamines, does salvia hit similarly for you? I used CanKet daily for like five weeks straight after using 3-HO-PCP almost daily for a couple weeks, never seemingly built even a speck of tolerance somehow, but I did miss the dissociation after that five week episode so I started smoking salvia (leaf not concentrate) here and there and it worked wonders.

 

[yungplague]

My boyfriend takes lamotrigine and can certainly be rocketed into 3-MeO-PCP induced mania, it's still possible for sure.

You should try to find dissociatives that are less toxic than arylcyclohexylamines, does salvia hit similarly for you? I used CanKet daily for like five weeks straight after using 3-HO-PCP almost daily for a couple weeks, never seemingly built even a speck of tolerance somehow, but I did miss the dissociation after that five week episode so I started smoking salvia (leaf not concentrate) here and there and it worked wonders.

Thanks for the reply. Back when I used 3meo daily there were times that I went full on manic. It was a time I didn't care about anything. I think I could control it now, I know that i would be able to quit it if I found myself getting too far gone. Anyways, I've never heard of 3-HO or CanKet. I'm gonna look that up now. I used Salvia like 10 years ago but only a handful of times. I am worried that it might not last as long as I am looking for. Do you order any of these online? That's my real dilemma..

 

[Esperighanto]

Thanks for the reply. Back when I used 3meo daily there were times that I went full on manic. It was a time I didn't care about anything. I think I could control it now, I know that i would be able to quit it if I found myself getting too far gone. Anyways, I've never heard of 3-HO or CanKet. I'm gonna look that up now. I used Salvia like 10 years ago but only a handful of times. I am worried that it might not last as long as I am looking for. Do you order any of these online? That's my real dilemma..

DNMs only rarely have PCP analogs nowadays, and CanKet is also very quickly drying up but there's usually an available supply of normal ketamine on them, though often sold as some arbitrary isomer that it's definitely not. Sometimes I'll encounter DCK or 2F-DCK, and while I haven't tried DCK yet, 2F-DCK is the most psychedelic and fascinating ketamine analog I've come across yet. BL is a bad place to look for sources.

3-HO-PCP Is the bees fucking knees, I'm currently on 10mg of it, coming down from sipping on a drink containing 25mg of allylescaline and 50mg of 2C-B over maybe 8 hours. I typically apply it only in these contexts, to synergize with psychedelics, as it does so in this background way that infiltrates the psychedelic experience with subtlety and tact, juxtaposing itself from 3-MeO-PCP's manic overbearances and frenetic exertions of energy. You can almost forget you're on 3-HO-PCP when you're on it far, far too easily in my experience when exceeding 8-12mg oral.

CanKet is the PCE equivalent of 2F-DCK, you could call it 2F-O-PCE or 2F-Eticyclidone I believe? Arylcyclohexylamines follow a naming convention fittingly chaotic to their experience. CanKet is essentially just sativa ketamine, a more manic, energetic, PCP-like experience that's more potent by weight and was misrepresented as 3F-O-PCE upon first being introduced to the market. It also had something like 8% "stimulant cut" which ended up being a really bizarre cathinone, Nervewing did a great write-up about all of this. In my personal experience CanKet is ketamine where the psychedelic qualities of high dose experiences occur here in the waking world more often than with ketamine.

Salvia lasts an incredibly short time, but it can be used frequently without any noticeable tolerance ever building it seems, and honestly I don't find myself needing it that often in the first place. I doubt anyone would. It's useful but highly self-regulating. In the past I had grown a pretty sizeable amount of it and really got to know the plant, and while there's certainly some magic in there, it's pretty cryptic and peculiar. Much like arylcyclohexylamines, salvia feels manic to mystical at best, and chaotic to hellish at worst. I've never had a bad time with it though, personally.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

I cant help you since sourcing isnt allowed and I am not versed in the synthesis of arylcyclohexylamines. Only thing I will tell you is that I would seriously refrain from using 3-MeO-PCP if youre a daily disso abuser. Trust me when I say that you have never used a substance like this, 3-MeO is just so potent and unpredictable and is almost guaranteed to induce full blow mania from daily use.

I went on a 2 week 3-MeO and stimulant binge and induced mania for about a month with symptoms of psychosis. Almost everyone Ive witnessed who has used it for more than 3 days in a row start getting into manic territory fast.

Daily 3-MeO-PCP use and responsible use cant coexist. If youre dead set on replacing your daily ket use I would look into DeschloroKetamine/2-OXO-PCM but it has anti microbial properties and I dont know what the repercussions of using that daily would be.

My friend was naked hogtied by the cops taken the the ER on 3meo and was high for like 4 days could not speak for 2

 

[Esperighanto]

I hate to be the naysayer on a harm reduction forum but there was a couple months long period where my boyfriend and I both were putting down 20+mg of 3-MeO-PCP daily functioning just fine. Got a promotion at my job, his remained stable, our friends and family all remained stable, health maintained, idk things seemed fine.

 

[TheLightBringer]

I hate to be the naysayer on a harm reduction forum but there was a couple months long period where my boyfriend and I both were putting down 20+mg of 3-MeO-PCP daily functioning just fine. Got a promotion at my job, his remained stable, our friends and family all remained stable, health maintained, idk things seemed fine.

I think it really depends on person to person and dosage used + if any other drugs were used. I had a friend who legit had 3-MeO-PCP temporarily change his life for the better, he was dosing pretty low every day like 10 - 25mg for a few months and was just the right level of hypomanic managing studies, work and the gym perfectly.

To come back to my point ab dosages, the same friend later ordered 3-MeO-PCP 2 years later while being deeper into polydrug abuse and added 50 - 75mg daily 3-MeO on top of his daily use of benzos, opiates and stims.

Within 2 weeks this dude went completely off the rails to the point of telling me hes figured out the secret to reality and only people like me and him who use dissos are the ones that ”get it” blah blah blah usual disso manic psychosis rambling you get the point.