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Lysergamides email received about 1-S LSD

pupnik

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any idea what 1-S LSD might be
I am certainly attracted to pellets, but no other idea about it...
 
It is said to be 1-(3-trimethylsilylpropionyl)-LSD and is thus another 19 g/mol heavier than the previous 1D-LSD/1T-LSD. Unless they are doing another switcheroo misdeclaration.
 
psychwiki makes it seem like LSZ might be even shorter than al-lad... i've never tried it. had the opportunity to get some over the net a few years back, but went for the longer lasting trips every time i had money.
 
psychwiki makes it seem like LSZ might be even shorter than al-lad... i've never tried it. had the opportunity to get some over the net a few years back, but went for the longer lasting trips every time i had money.
ive tried LSZ a few times, every single time i take it, very different effects. so i've shelved it. what i can say about it, it's very dreamy everytime. i I cant really speak on duration. I feel like its similar maybe shorter than LSD, but LSD duration does depend on dosage. and maybe lsz does as well, but i never took it past 150ug. i never will

AL-LAD is the shortest acting lysergamide i know, but all lysergamides require some level of commitment.
 
Shulgin reported that it's duration was about 6 hours at 150 ug, so it should be no real surprise .

All my experiences with it line pretty much up with his.
Please note that not all experiences in PiHKAL/TiHKAL are by Ann or Alexander Shulgin. A lot of them aren't. Especially in TiHKAL, we can be pretty sure that it was used quite a lot as a "human experiment laundry machine" ;) Unless you know specifically by cross-referencing with his pharmacology notebooks (which does not include this report of AL-LAD to the best of my knowledge), there is no way to tell really!

Although Nichols has mentioned that some of the lysergamides may have slipped out of the laboratory to Shulgin's research group. Because as far as I know, Shulgin didn't really synthesise lysergamides in his laboratory himself.
 
Trimethylsilylpropionyl? crowded! Thats a bulky bit o nothing on the pyrrole ring of the indole.
 
psychwiki makes it seem like LSZ might be even shorter than al-lad... i've never tried it. had the opportunity to get some over the net a few years back, but went for the longer lasting trips every time i had money.
To me lsz was always a bland version of lsd that lasted about as long as lsd.

Like not completely bad, but nothing special/unique about it.

My favorite lysergamides from those I've tried (lsd, ald-52, 1p-lsd, 1cp-lsd, 1p-eth-lad, eth-lad, al-lad, lsz and some r1 sub with the codename cameron) were always ald-52, 1cp-lsd, al-lad and eth-lad/1p-eth-lad. I have tried any of the mipla/eipla/... ones and don't really want to because the reports I've read about them make them sound meh.

I would like to try pro-lad which is available atm but won't because the only source I know of that has it has a min order of 50 blotters and I'm not buying 50 blotters of something that I don't even know if I like (I hope this is vague enough to not break any of the sourcing/price discussion rules).
 
I would like to try pro-lad which is available atm but won't because the only source I know of that has it has a min order of 50 blotters and I'm not buying 50 blotters of something that I don't even know if I like (I hope this is vague enough to not break any of the sourcing/price discussion rules).
Pro lad launch would be louder than a sketchy website with shopped pictures of blotters
 
No, I haven't had the chance to try many exotic psychedelics.
Well in case you not aware about MiPLA, it checks your boxes of being an LSD analog and lasting around 6h!

IIRC it has the exact same atoms as LSD, just arranged in a different position, so I think it was discontinued because of the risk of being misidentified as LSD. It is that it's so mild, even a large-ish dose doesn't get too strong, but I really liked it. MiPLA variants like EiPLA or 1p-MiPLA might be around, but I don't think MiPLA itself is.

AL-LAD is more of a gem, definitely one of the most interesting lysergamides that came out, but it does last longer then 6h, more like 8h I'd say.
 
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