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What is wrong with the MDMA available today? - v2

After years of meh, I have finally encountered a product that generates full mydriasis, trismus, hyperkinesia and the classical lovey euforia at 80-100mg. It is from a local source in Prague, CZ and is a white crystal powder without any smell.

I have tested it with immunoassay kits and on two young MDMA-naive persons and four old-timers who have taken hundreds of pills in the 90s. The effects and duration (~4h) were the same in all subjects regards of age. One girl became sick (vomiting) but after 30min has calmed down and enjoyed the remainder.
In the end, I have taken 80mg myself in orange juice (just like the others) and had a very positive classical roll... just like I remembered it from years ago. I danced mostly to this. Unfortunately, I had no company by then.

P.S.
I do not have any powder to spare and the dealer is out of it so do not contact me about it. I will not send it to you for free nor for any money.
 
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I mean, discourse is the point of a forum
Fair enough, I just think there is a lot people repeating the same information/discussion over and over and in my humble opinion, a lot of it is false. My opinion on the matter is that there is no such thing as MehMDMA. I work at an analytical lab among many other occupations, and I've never seen anything like what people are describing here. The only thing that I do wonder, is about MDMA hydrates, but I'm not sure that would change much except maybe bioavailability.

And yeah sorry to snap, I have been going through some dark stuff lately. Benzos and alcohol are probably what I was using that night. Currently withdrawaling from benzos and it sucks. I snapped at my roommate pretty good lately
 
Fair enough, I just think there is a lot people repeating the same information/discussion over and over and in my humble opinion, a lot of it is false. My opinion on the matter is that there is no such thing as MehMDMA. I work at an analytical lab among many other occupations, and I've never seen anything like what people are describing here. The only thing that I do wonder, is about MDMA hydrates, but I'm not sure that would change much except maybe bioavailability.

And yeah sorry to snap, I have been going through some dark stuff lately. Benzos and alcohol are probably what I was using that night. Currently withdrawaling from benzos and it sucks. I snapped at my roommate pretty good lately
You don't think there are impurities that could compete with receptor or enzyme binding impacting the experience?

In the recent past I had two different batches from two totally different sources. I want able to consistently roll off one but the other I had shitty results with. Both were reagent tested
 
Both were reagent tested
Reagent testing means so very little. Too many ppl trust that shit far too much, and think the speed with which a color change occurs denotes purity. It does not. And those tests can easily be fooled.

My opinion on the matter is that there is no such thing as MehMDMA
I see it less as whether so-called "MehDMA" is real, but rather: what's causing so many ppl to have a "meh" experience when taking what's represented to them as "MDMA"? There are obviously many reasons that this could occur. Yes, I agree, some ppl are stupidly repeating the same shit, but there's 106 fucking pages of discussion at this point, and that's just for the new thread. There's an old thread, too. It's a little unreasonable to expect ppl to read all this shit just to make sure they don't repeat something. It's bound to happen. And meanwhile, some ppl are hard-headed and refuse to consider that they might be wrong about a thing.

My point is still: there's no way to figure it out. The cause is likely many different things, not just one easily identified impurity or something. Testing services are a straight up scam run by scammers just clever enough to evade the accusation. But come on; gimme a break. Energy Control Spain's testing service = snake oil monkey rubbish. Don't waste your time or money. They have no idea what's in any sample and I wouldn't be surprised if they were just boldface making up results as they go along, fabricating everything by pulling supposed "results" out of their asses. Que broma. Que payasos… pedazos de mierda.

Re: benzo withdrawal ☞ yeah that sucks. Space out those GABAergics or they'll bite you in the ass every time. Same with opiates (and most drugs). But you know this.
 
Hello.

I have recently done some lab tests with cocaine.

There are in fact many cuts for this substance that fail to detect via FTIR, paper spray mass spec, and or RAMEN in a 50/50 mix or less

He has it for many other drugs some are active some are looks but he has entire guides how to rerock cocaine in layers like real white.

Just letting people know because he has it for other drugs. However not for MDMA.
 
Then why are you even posting it here....
What does cocaine impurities and re-rocking have anything to do with "Whats wrong with the MDMA available today"
Hate this thread.
Fair question so here it goes.

Well considering this guy has it for cocaine, ketamine, heroin and others. It is safe to assume there are many other cuts within the drug market that are not detected via labs and metformin has no structure relating components to cocaine.

It is safe to say there are cuts not detected in many other drugs that we haven't figured out yet and that labs are missing. While he doesn't have one posted for MDMA he does have a rerocking guide for ketamine and MDMA... And there could in theory be many cuts for MDMA that are undetectable if this guy has like 4 cuts that are active and like 3 cuts that look like cocaine. Along with ketamine etc.

I believe there could be many substances that for whatever reason could possibly be detected alone but if mixed 50/50 or less could be undetected in most labs for whatever reason.

One of the original theories was undetected cut or impurities in lab results.
 
One of the original theories was undetected cut or impurities
Ok so I never said there wasn't dirty MDMA out there. But that's not a problem with MDMA, that's a problem with shitty people either cutting drugs or not cleaning them. I still don't find your post very relevant.

FTIR is quick and dirty, so ofc you're not going to see everything. That's not really it's purpose. FTIR has mainly been utilized as a RAPID detection/screen. Pretty sure that's what they use in the USA airports?

I will concede that every analytical technology has it's up's and down's.

*edit I was wrong afaik about FTIR being used at airports. From what I can tell they use IMS? Ion Mobility Spectrometry?
 
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Ok so I never said there wasn't dirty MDMA out there. But that's not a problem with MDMA, that's a problem with shitty people either cutting drugs or not cleaning them. I still don't find your post very relevant.

FTIR is quick and dirty, so ofc you're not going to see everything. That's not really it's purpose. FTIR has mainly been utilized as a RAPID detection/screen. Pretty sure that's what they use in the USA airports?

I will concede that every analytical technology has it's up's and down's.
Again I want to be clear. it's not just FTIR..

It's also reagents, those "DIY purity tests for cocaine and MDMA etc" are also being fooled and untected.

UVIC with paper spray mass spec and RAMEN detected it as metformin and unknown

While getyourdrugstested only has FTIR and couldn't tell much. Hence why I always sent to both

I get limiting but this is a big one they both passed as only as cocaine but I knowingly mixed 50/50 and both labs failed ..

He also promised it will pass all energy control, and wedinos tests.... This is kinda scary if you know. He has fooled 4 different labs so far. Each with different lab tests...

This is just 1 guy. I'm sure there are many others and many other unknown undetected cuts in the supply.
 
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Can you elaborate? I am not familiar with UVIC.

And surely you mean RAMAN.
But now I'm hungry :D
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In PS-MS, the sample is applied to a piece of paper with a solvent added. Then, high voltage is applied, which produces ions to be analyzed by the mass spectrometer. This technique can detect chemicals at trace concentrations and quantify them. It is also considered a gold standard in laboratory settings.


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Can you elaborate? I am not familiar with UVIC.

And surely you mean RAMAN.
But now I'm hungry :D
Yes my mistake I specifically asked for RAMAN and PS-MS on my samples at UVIC.

To have fooled GYTD FTIR is one thing.

To fool everybody and every test at energy control, weidos, UVIC and GYTD. Well that's a huge cause for concern...
 
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Are you always this passive aggressive? It's unbelievable how insulting and negative you are considering you're supposed to be a moderator.

Hate this thread
Of course you do. And we just all love hearing you bitch about it, too. And if you hate it so much whyTF do you engage and ask:
Can you elaborate? I am not familiar with UVIC
Amazing. Your words and actions are inconsistent and it's a shame you aren't more respectful to others around here.

Have a good day.
 
i've been getting really good shit lately - but somebody else just told me they've been finding nothing but garbage

(true story)
 
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If they really can do NMR and can do a detailed report and spectra can be provided well we are in business.
 
I am reaching out to Kykeon Analytics Laboratory to see if they are willing to help as this seems like a deeper unknown and scary issue we never took much consideration or look into. Anyways they are willing to help but if course you gotta.

Attached on their website has drop off sites for USA, Canada and EUROPE some free.

Here is a USA list

 
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And surely you mean RAMAN.
But now I'm hungry :D
Yup
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