I will reply to the other posters above later, don't have much time right now. @alasdairm
The intersex numbers (1% or higher) have been significantly inflated by progressives, by including other types of genetic syndromes. The true intersex number is ~0.018%.
The rare number of intersex people is not evidence of "gender fluidity" in humanity. 99% of humanity is on the sex binary, regardless of what their psychological condition is. They are physically one sex or the other.
That may be the case for some, but it's not in my case.
I have been a proponent of trans rights my entire life and I have multiple friends in the trans community. I, and they, think the recent progressive movement is garbage. Trans people are not a monolith and neither are gay people. The attempts to collectivize us are purely political when in reality the community is fragmented in many different social and political views.
I really think the LGB needs to separate from the TQ+ post haste. LGB is about sexual orientation. TQ+ is about identity movements that have very little scientific basis. Non-binary is bullshit, it's not real or definable. These people present as one sex or the other but use fashion choices to be gender non conforming. They can take off the cosplay at any time and they will look just like anybody else. They are not a real minority and they don't deserve special status. They are literally making things up now, and coopting the pride movement to try and make themselves correct. I want nothing to do with it. Non-binary isn't an identity. So you think you don't fully belong to either gender -- big fucking deal. Back in the day it was called androgyny.
Conservatives were largely beginning to accept the LGB after decades of civil rights movements. Now the TQ+ community started going after children, and conservatives are (correctly) fighting back. Gender ideology should not be taught to children. There is also no denying that there is pedophilia embedded in this movement -- all of the academics who created the founding principles of queer theory (i.e. John Money) are extremely controversial as they support consent in children. "Children can consent" is dangerous and should be stopped. If children can consent to having their breasts cut off or to take life-altering hormones, then the next step will be sexual consent.
As a result of the backlash, ultra conservatives are coming out of the woodwork to persecute the LGB. We were finally starting the cut through the crap about gays being pedophiles. Now it's all being brought up again because the TQ+ coopted the LGB in order to bring children into the conversation, because there are literal pedophiles and their supporters in this movement.
The courts will settle this. There are hundreds of lawsuits already in progress by children who have been harmed. Clinics are starting to close down. In the UK, the largest "gender affirming care" clinic got closed in 2023 because of lack of scientific rigor.
The TQ+ has nothing to do with the precedents that the LGB fought for. Gender ideology is a top-down philosophy being pushed by post-modernists (aka Marxists) who have taken over the education system and are using might-makes-right to justify their atrocities.
Moderate conservatives were generally on our side because the LGB movement was always about consenting adults. But once the TQ+ started to try and bring children into it, the moderates became alienated and now we have a backlash. This idea that the "LGBT" is under attack is WRONG. LGB was never under attack. We gained acceptance. We are only under attack now because progressives are targeting children. That's literally it.
And all of the progressives clinging to their various victimhood identities -- half of the identities are not even real. They're just making shit up because post-secondary has taught them that they don't have the right to speak less they are one of the oppressed. So everyone is claiming oppression, especially cishet white people. Everyone in their 20s is "queer" or "non-binary" now. It's BS and these labels have no meaning. It's literally whatever you want them to be.
@Foreigner, you seem to be still trying to exclude intersex people from conversation with these new statements. But I have not seen you replying to my questions just few pages backwards. How do you conceive with that? (is that correct verb? I ain't native speaker)
The intersex numbers (1% or higher) have been significantly inflated by progressives, by including other types of genetic syndromes. The true intersex number is ~0.018%.
The rare number of intersex people is not evidence of "gender fluidity" in humanity. 99% of humanity is on the sex binary, regardless of what their psychological condition is. They are physically one sex or the other.
I don't want to make this a component of argumentation, but rather a suggestion and expression of my wishes; I feel like sometimes minorities and discriminated human groups have internalized the rhetorics people hostile towards them have used in order to be able to turn those same rhetorics they understand, against the oppressors, to gain space to exist. And sometimes it leads people to kinda repeating the trauma.
That may be the case for some, but it's not in my case.
So, I just wish you people to perceive things again from that perspective for a while. I claim that many of us are that are otherized or otherwise questioned legitimate of existence as ourselves are not that far away with other people that share same experience but with other title. I know this sounds confusing, this is very difficult concept to explain. Maybe I will do better job tomorrow.
I have been a proponent of trans rights my entire life and I have multiple friends in the trans community. I, and they, think the recent progressive movement is garbage. Trans people are not a monolith and neither are gay people. The attempts to collectivize us are purely political when in reality the community is fragmented in many different social and political views.
I really think the LGB needs to separate from the TQ+ post haste. LGB is about sexual orientation. TQ+ is about identity movements that have very little scientific basis. Non-binary is bullshit, it's not real or definable. These people present as one sex or the other but use fashion choices to be gender non conforming. They can take off the cosplay at any time and they will look just like anybody else. They are not a real minority and they don't deserve special status. They are literally making things up now, and coopting the pride movement to try and make themselves correct. I want nothing to do with it. Non-binary isn't an identity. So you think you don't fully belong to either gender -- big fucking deal. Back in the day it was called androgyny.
Conservatives were largely beginning to accept the LGB after decades of civil rights movements. Now the TQ+ community started going after children, and conservatives are (correctly) fighting back. Gender ideology should not be taught to children. There is also no denying that there is pedophilia embedded in this movement -- all of the academics who created the founding principles of queer theory (i.e. John Money) are extremely controversial as they support consent in children. "Children can consent" is dangerous and should be stopped. If children can consent to having their breasts cut off or to take life-altering hormones, then the next step will be sexual consent.
As a result of the backlash, ultra conservatives are coming out of the woodwork to persecute the LGB. We were finally starting the cut through the crap about gays being pedophiles. Now it's all being brought up again because the TQ+ coopted the LGB in order to bring children into the conversation, because there are literal pedophiles and their supporters in this movement.
The courts will settle this. There are hundreds of lawsuits already in progress by children who have been harmed. Clinics are starting to close down. In the UK, the largest "gender affirming care" clinic got closed in 2023 because of lack of scientific rigor.
The TQ+ has nothing to do with the precedents that the LGB fought for. Gender ideology is a top-down philosophy being pushed by post-modernists (aka Marxists) who have taken over the education system and are using might-makes-right to justify their atrocities.
Moderate conservatives were generally on our side because the LGB movement was always about consenting adults. But once the TQ+ started to try and bring children into it, the moderates became alienated and now we have a backlash. This idea that the "LGBT" is under attack is WRONG. LGB was never under attack. We gained acceptance. We are only under attack now because progressives are targeting children. That's literally it.
And all of the progressives clinging to their various victimhood identities -- half of the identities are not even real. They're just making shit up because post-secondary has taught them that they don't have the right to speak less they are one of the oppressed. So everyone is claiming oppression, especially cishet white people. Everyone in their 20s is "queer" or "non-binary" now. It's BS and these labels have no meaning. It's literally whatever you want them to be.
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