☠ WARNING ☠ Warning: Over the counter “Amanita Gummies” contain 4-aco-dmt

[stom10]

Weird, though I'm not terribly surprised. I know amanitas/muscimol are a thing that are being sold, but I don't really think there is enough biomass available to be stocking headshops nationwide. They are totally different effect IMO, and also wouldn't be terribly surprised if there was some amount of benzo in there considering the availability of RC benzos these days.

Somewhat recently, admittedly after the explosion of amanita gummies in headshops / advertising on social media etc etc, one large Chinese RC vendor started listing kilograms of muscimol. So many of these gummies could just be using synthetic muscimol rather than actual Amanita extract.


And there's a fairly rigorous proof from a chemist on reddit that one brand of "muscimol isolate" is actually just pregabalin as the active:

Different person sent a sample to DrugsData: https://www.drugsdata.org/view.php?id=17152



So there's definitely some fuckery about. I wouldn't be shocked that someone would use a 4 sub tryptamine in gummies too.

 

[Didgital]

Well i don't know if they're doing it commercially, but there is lab in colorado that was synthesizing it and boasting about 99.9% purity on instagram about a year ago, so i know it is possible. I've even had a few people approach me about doing it.

 

[Ismene2]

they're probably dosing it with like 50 mg at the most.

It IS happening.. there's enough reports on this I've read to believe it.

Edit: 4 aco dmt is the same price here as it is there

No one is doing half a gram of 4 aco dmt.
6-9 mg equals a gram of dried shrooms

50mg of 4aco would put most kids in hospital. Very, very intense trip.

I don't believe it - why sell it as amantia when you could sell it as 4-aco and get 100 times the price for it? It would be like selling 100% pure cocaine as a caffeine pill. Never gonna happen in a million years. Very few people have ever tried 4-aco or have any clue what it's like. It will be just what it's sold as being - amantia.

 

[Ismene2]

I wouldn't be shocked that someone would use a 4 sub tryptamine in gummies too.

I'd be very shocked because it costs 100 times the price of a gummie. You tend to cut drugs with cheaper things not more expensive. 4-aco is the most expensive drug on the planet. No-one in their right mind is going to put it into a gummie when they could make hundred times as much money selling it as straight 4-aco. Think about it.

 

[phish69]

I'd be very shocked because it costs 100 times the price of a gummie. You tend to cut drugs with cheaper things not more expensive. 4-aco is the most expensive drug on the planet. No-one in their right mind is going to put it into a gummie when they could make hundred times as much money selling it as straight 4-aco. Think about it.

From what I've read it's mainly chocolate bars with the brand name Polka Dots that are dosed sometimes. So like a whole chocolate bar would be dosed not one gummy. They're selling them for like 40 or 50 bucks.

A half gram (500 mg) can be had for between 70 and 140 usd, so it could be very profitable.

So.. I thought about it. That's why I replied.

50mg of 4aco would put most kids in hospital. Very, very intense trip.

I don't believe it - why sell it as amantia when you could sell it as 4-aco and get 100 times the price for it? It would be like selling 100% pure cocaine as a caffeine pill. Never gonna happen in a million years. Very few people have ever tried 4-aco or have any clue what it's like. It will be just what it's sold as being - amantia.

Yeah it might be closer to 30 mg. In a whole chocolate bar. I think it's fucking retarded some head shops are doing this and I doubt it'll last very long.

 

[Phobos]

50mg of 4aco would put most kids in hospital. Very, very intense trip.

I don't believe it - why sell it as amantia when you could sell it as 4-aco and get 100 times the price for it? It would be like selling 100% pure cocaine as a caffeine pill. Never gonna happen in a million years. Very few people have ever tried 4-aco or have any clue what it's like. It will be just what it's sold as being - amantia.

I've had pure 4 aco DMT and I have doses 40mg no problem with no tolerance.
I am an experienced tripper and yeah It is going to be intense (between ++ and +++ for most) but not medically dangerous at all IMHO.

I can see how some people could end up in the ER because of a panic attack.

 

[Ismene2]

I've had pure 4 aco DMT and I have doses 40mg no problem with no tolerance.
I am an experienced tripper and yeah It is going to be intense (between ++ and +++ for most) but not medically dangerous at all IMHO.

I can see how some people could end up in the ER because of a panic attack

Do you buy your drugs at gas stations tho?

And why use 4-aco when its illegal and costs a fortune? Why not just use some cheap shit like amantia? The idea is to make money not lose money.

 

[Ismene2]

From what I've read it's mainly chocolate bars with the brand name Polka Dots that are dosed sometimes. So like a whole chocolate bar would be dosed not one gummy. They're selling them for like 40 or 50 bucks.

A half gram (500 mg) can be had for between 70 and 140 usd, so it could be very profitable.

So.. I thought about it. That's why I replied.




Yeah it might be closer to 30 mg. In a whole chocolate bar. I think it's fucking retarded some head shops are doing this and I doubt it'll last very long.

Arnt polka dots just psilocybin?

 

[Fire&Water]

*diseased & impure*

 

[stom10]

I'd be very shocked because it costs 100 times the price of a gummie. You tend to cut drugs with cheaper things not more expensive. 4-aco is the most expensive drug on the planet. No-one in their right mind is going to put it into a gummie when they could make hundred times as much money selling it as straight 4-aco. Think about it.

4-AcO-DMT is far, far from the most expensive drug on the planet. It can be had from China for much less than a buck a dose, right now. Sounds like you're just looking at price gouging resellers of said product.

And if you'll note, I said "4 sub tryptamines" in general. Some of which are even cheaper and less desirable, such as 4-AcO-DET or 4-AcO-EPT.

 

[Phobos]

Do you buy your drugs at gas stations tho?

And why use 4-aco when its illegal and costs a fortune? Why not just use some cheap shit like amantia? The idea is to make money not lose money.

4 aco DMT is not that expensive, I do not buy it at the gas station, I buy the pure powder.

Also, you 4 aco DMT and amanita muscaria are not interchangeable drugs at all.

 

[Ismene2]

4 aco DMT is not that expensive, I do not buy it at the gas station, I buy the pure powder.

Also, you 4 aco DMT and amanita muscaria are not interchangeable drugs at all.

In the UK it is - by far the most expensive drug you can buy.

 

[Ismene2]

4-AcO-DMT is far, far from the most expensive drug on the planet. It can be had from China for much less than a buck a dose, right now. Sounds like you're just looking at price gouging resellers of said product.

And if you'll note, I said "4 sub tryptamines" in general. Some of which are even cheaper and less desirable, such as 4-AcO-DET or 4-AcO-EPT.

Sure if you dont mind ordering class a drugs from china - its a lot cheaper if you dont mind years in jail. Coke is cheap if you order it from Bolivia.

 

[Ismene2]

4 aco DMT is not that expensive, I do not buy it at the gas station, I buy the pure powder.

Also, you 4 aco DMT and amanita muscaria are not interchangeable drugs at all.

Yeah they definately arnt interchangeable - one is dirt cheap and utter shit and one is great.

 

[Phobos]

In the UK it is - by far the most expensive drug you can buy.

I do live in the UK too.
It is expensive per gram, but not per dose.

 

[Ismene2]

I do live in the UK too.
It is expensive per gram, but not per dose.

Doesn't it work out cheaper buying it by the gram than single doses tho?

 

[Phobos]

Doesn't it work out cheaper buying it by the gram than single doses tho?

Used to be that way, now from my sources 50x20mg pills and 1000mg of powder (so, same amount of active drug) are basically the same price.

 

[Ismene2]

I saw someone selling "4ac-dmt drops" - something like 20mg in a liquid. I like bigger doses tho - I can eat 100mg and then go back for another 100mg a few hours later and still be up dancing my nuts off.

 

[Opana313]

Well I ate 6 last night of a bomb brand(other brand cheaper doesn't do shit) and I had fun and I know in another thread snafu was speaking on gaba receptors being touched by these..usually 3 or 4 I get a good low dose psilocybin feel mostly body high, damn decent closed eye or dark room OEV..but this time it was just some tracers and got a bit sleepy but also smoked a fat blunt on top of the peak.. interesting thread for real. I'd like to know what I'm taking too for sure, I feel my brand is probably legit but who knows..

Edit: Modern Miracles pretty sure legit and my favorite for the time being..I hope they don't try and take this just because it seems everyone is talking about it now. I always hated that bullshit, fuck I feel like I made one of the 1st threads when these hit town.

 

[phish69]

Id rather buy a pure psilocin analogue like 4 ho met 4 pro dmt 4 aco dmt etc. then waste my money on gummies hoping they make me trip.