Help me with settling this myth (holding in hits vs not holding in)

[ovo1024]

So I smoke fentanyl pills and meth pretty much every day. And literally everyone like freaks out on me when I take a hit off a blue pill and blow it out in a second or two. They will even say how I'm wasting it etc. I want a way to prove them that holding there hits in for 10-15 seconds doesn't get them so much higher then me.

 

[ninjapirateroberts]

Fentanyl is highly lipophilic and gets rapidly absorbed by highly perfused tissues, including the brain, before redistributing to muscle and fat. Smoking it increases bioavailability, making it more fast acting and potent. Assuming you “chase the dragon” with an aluminum foil or something, holding it longer is actually detrimental to your lung health.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

I don't know of any proof one way or another, but I'll say this. All the sites that say don't hold your hits long say to hold them for a few seconds. However, when I see people on You Tube saying to not hold your hits, they are immediately exhaling. They're not even holding their hits for a full second.

I decided to hold my hits for 4 seconds. If you hold them for four seconds by the clock, you will be surprised at how long that is. It's about how long people who hold their hits hold their hits for. (talking pot here)

 

[ovo1024]

That's what I always say! That like when smoking any drug I believe? Our lungs are excellent at absorbing the smoke and I had read somewhere that about 97% of the drug is inhaled within the first 2 seconds. And that holding it in for 10 seconds might get you 1 or 2 more percent of the drug. Which is really a negligent amount that you won't even feel a difference. So it's mainly just placebo at that point.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

I imagine it's not binary.
So, a few seconds is optimal (according to some).
It's likely that the first second after that gets more absorption than the second second after that and so on. Diminishing returns as time goes by.

 

[ovo1024]

I imagine it's not binary.
So, a few seconds is optimal (according to some).
It's likely that the first second after that gets more absorption than the second second after that and so on. Diminishing returns as time goes by.

Sorry I'm stupid, what exactly does binary mean? Lol

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Sorry I'm stupid, what exactly does binary mean? Lol

It's not only 100% one way or the other. It's not like it works 100% or it doesn't 100%. There are graduations in between.

In this case, I'm also stating that there are likely diminishing returns. The first second after a few seconds might be worth it whereas 6 seconds instead of 5 seconds is inconsequential. It doesn't abruptly cut off.

Biggest point is that "a few seconds" might be a little longer than you think if you actually time it.

 

[m_carroll72]

So I smoke fentanyl pills and meth pretty much every day. And literally everyone like freaks out on me when I take a hit off a blue pill and blow it out in a second or two. They will even say how I'm wasting it etc. I want a way to prove them that holding there hits in for 10-15 seconds doesn't get them so much higher then me.

I watched a show on national geographic about people getting high and they would monitor there vitals and body temp while under the influence and on that show a doctor said you do not get any higher holding in the smoke. Why users think they get higher is the lack of oxygen or the head rush that would come from a coughing fit. He said breath in blow it out it'd like a light switch. It's on your high you

 

[MassAveMayor]

i am wondering same thing about smoking raw white fent analogue powder.. usually i sniff cause it’s easier while at work.. but i have alittle bit of a cold (one i always get when weather gets colder up here) so I’ve been smoking it. I started off smoking heroin when i was like 17 back in 2013. Is there bioavailability chart between smoking on foil or snorting. I always hold my hits for few seconds . I feel like sniffing works better but that’s just me