Yeah it’s wild how potent street opioids are now. I knew quite a few ppl coming off of fent when I was in inpatient treatment recently for stimulant abuse and a lot of them subs didn’t even take their withdrawl away.
Some might need to hear that smoking or snorting some opiods in a right way feels like that, in a case of snorting not right a way and in a slowed down fashion in a way that makes it less intense, just like with many drugs. But hell, even an oral opiod high can still be described in a similar wow fashion. In my case oral morphine or even better oral opium in a right dose beats smoking butyr-fent and in a sense even snorting heroin. I’m sure smoking freebase H or shooting salts would beat all of those but that’s my case and there are all kinds of extremes and inbetweens. Quite a few don’t care for anything but the way needle feels but quite a few also don’t care how the needle feels.
And benzos and benzos WDs can kill.
I think you’ve answered my question, I been fucking up all my relationships on the Elvis diet and nitrous didn’t make that any better, so I feel you’re probably right I can’t afford to be lethargic and nodding out and sick for 24 hours I can always save these for if I stayed with a friend and had the ability.
I absolutely do not understand how heroin or other full opioide agonist addicts have so much relieve from kratom or that it is so helpfull . I can get the best red strain and while kratom can have a good 2 hour high if you have no tolerance its pretty much done after the first dose . Because redosing kratom pretty much does nothing for me . My only opiode experience are kratom and suboxone , i find suboxone (without any opiode tolerance) much much better then kratom and i find it interesting how people that are used to heroïne find relieve with kratom ?
It would be certainly better if people just could get pure pharma grade heroïne or morphine instead of od'ing on fent because everything is laced with fent these days . To bad the "war on drugs " fails horrible lmao . But fentanyl can definitely be used safely but only in a hospital setting . Like i myself need a colonoscopy every 2 year and i get a combination of fentanyl and midazolam . Its just one of those substances that should have never ever gotten outside on the streets .
My only guess is they truly don’t have massive tolerances.
Yeah but i just don't believe it will remove any hardcore opiode dependancy wd symptoms like methadon/suboxone does. No way something that weak will do anything for that
Its like saying take a valeriaan root pill for a severe benzo withdrawal
Kratom is a settlement for me, same with the suboxone. Ideally I’d like 2018 oxycodone prescription to return especially with my tolerance, 2 10’s had me asking if I’d die on here, it’s best you stay away from any of it. I can’t tell u what to do, but I would assume that anyone using opiates would use kratom to abstain from dying. It’s not as easy as it was to access opiates. Most times back in the day I’d just go to the ER with pain and ended up with plenty
Yeah good luck. I had a bad enough come off from kratom let alone benzos thankfully I use as recommended now, or I popped ten xans 4 a week like I’m Steven MosesIts like saying take a valeriaan root pill for a severe benzo withdrawal
But kratom pretty much is like coffee in terms on how you can take it and short duration . Addiction wise its somewhere between caffeine/cannabis but still way less addictive for me then cannabis . I also have no clue how people get wd's from kratom , i used it for 3 months as a substitute for ghb and never have i noticed any wd symptoms . But you see chasing the "first" high pretty much applies to any drug i think eventually.
Suboxone ain't that bad but i got the pill version.
Idk. I concurrently was using oxycodone pretty often, it caused a lot of issues twice for me. Especially when I passed that threshold and was constantly drinking kratom.. I know my best interest is not taking anything no matter how hard of a day. But very little support, probably due to my own lack of effort. I may see if I can find zoom NA meetings.
Film. Name brand
Bunadict or something , anyway a orange smelling white pill with n8 on it i believe, they are 8mg.
Never heard of it. not sure, especially if I don’t see it come from a reliable source nor am I familiar with anything but kvk’s or k 56’s or Teva 833
I would be careful judging any pill by a smell idk all the pharmaceuticals, wouldn’t surprise me if they’re real but I’ll do some diggin 4 ur kindness and response. I know I use my clonazepam 4 breath mints sometime