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Meth Is it supposed to need more heat after each crackback? Also kinda feels like the smoking method is pretty different for thin vs thick glass.

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TL;DR the question explains itself. Seems like each time a bowl recrystallizes, its vaporizing temp increases for the next melt. Bonus question: why is the crackback different after each melt? Like, first few melts I'll have a l e g g y b o i but after a few re-melts, I'm stuck with a boi of m a n y square. Why is that? Any chance it's heat-related?

As far as the thin vs thick debate & smoking method, for which tips are appreciated:
Full disclosure I have only ever used what I see described on Bluelight as "American style" pipes. Bubble-on-a-stick type situation.

I had to make a pit stop for a pipe the other day, and of course went ahead and bought a backup. Not wanting to say Nah and go to another shop, I said fuck it and took the 2for5 deal on the shittiest pipes I have ever seen. Short, paper thin, with itty bitty bowls. Relatable in that seemed it as though it would shatter if looked at funny.
Anyway I was salty as hell. Surprisingly, though, they were my favorite so far. Best lil things I ever smoked out of. Now, I had bought them 2-3 days ago, and both are already broken (for obvious reasons, of course. but for transparency these reasons were scrape-related, not heat-related) so I did not opt to go to the same place for my replacements.

With thicker glass, it feels like I either have to over heat, or over-twirl in order to prevent over heating. With the latter, too much of the glass becomes hot and I get lil baby bitch hits. Also seems to burn much faster.
With the thin pipes, I would hold my flame (I use a Clipper) like 4in from the bowl. Seems excessive, I know, and it does feel a bit much to do. But the flame is tall as hell. Anyway, it would melt quickly, clearly, and crack back without contact with any cool surface; wet or otherwise. On top of that it was some of the holiest, most beautiful, easily/evenly-spread crackback I've seen to date.

With both options, though, it feels like the more times a bowl is heated and then cooled; the warmer it needs to get the next time it's heated. Is that an accurate observation? Like is there science to that? It's just kind of my observation across various bags, bowls, and heating methods. This plays into the appeal of thin pipes, too, because it seems much easier to get big clouds from smaller amounts of gear. I can't stand smoking from a bowl loaded with like, a fuckin' half gram. Shit's nasty, gets burnt after the first crackback and only gets worse. So I load really small amounts and smoke em to ash, or damn near it, with every hit tasting just like the first.
With thicker pipes, though, it feels like the less you load, the more it just kinda melts smokelessly before ultimately burning. Sometimes it doesn't matter how much I load, I still get little or no smoke from thick glass; regardless of if I keep my flame 4in away or the recommended 1-2.

All of these comparisons have been made with the same dope -- two different batches from two different sources -- and although one bag seems more sensitive to burns overall, the results seem pretty consistent. A third batch from another separate party will be thrown in the mix over the weekend.

TL;NGAF -- I guess it's just odd to me that people seem to swear by thick pipes and shun thin ones? I've genuinely never seen a tweaker hold the opinion that thin glass is better, but lowkey I'd buy nothing but thin glass if it wasn't such a wild inconvenience to have to buy in bulk and/or constantly replace.
 
Maybe some material gets too hot and gets smoked rather than vaped then residue coats the pipe. The residue would probably interfere with even heat distribution and accelerate the process. Why do people look for more in the carpet when they know they didn't drop any lol.
 
TL;DR the question explains itself. Seems like each time a bowl recrystallizes, its vaporizing temp increases for the next melt. Bonus question: why is the crackback different after each melt? Like, first few melts I'll have a l e g g y b o i but after a few re-melts, I'm stuck with a boi of m a n y square. Why is that? Any chance it's heat-related?

As far as the thin vs thick debate & smoking method, for which tips are appreciated:
Full disclosure I have only ever used what I see described on Bluelight as "American style" pipes. Bubble-on-a-stick type situation.

I had to make a pit stop for a pipe the other day, and of course went ahead and bought a backup. Not wanting to say Nah and go to another shop, I said fuck it and took the 2for5 deal on the shittiest pipes I have ever seen. Short, paper thin, with itty bitty bowls. Relatable in that seemed it as though it would shatter if looked at funny.
Anyway I was salty as hell. Surprisingly, though, they were my favorite so far. Best lil things I ever smoked out of. Now, I had bought them 2-3 days ago, and both are already broken (for obvious reasons, of course. but for transparency these reasons were scrape-related, not heat-related) so I did not opt to go to the same place for my replacements.

With thicker glass, it feels like I either have to over heat, or over-twirl in order to prevent over heating. With the latter, too much of the glass becomes hot and I get lil baby bitch hits. Also seems to burn much faster.
With the thin pipes, I would hold my flame (I use a Clipper) like 4in from the bowl. Seems excessive, I know, and it does feel a bit much to do. But the flame is tall as hell. Anyway, it would melt quickly, clearly, and crack back without contact with any cool surface; wet or otherwise. On top of that it was some of the holiest, most beautiful, easily/evenly-spread crackback I've seen to date.

With both options, though, it feels like the more times a bowl is heated and then cooled; the warmer it needs to get the next time it's heated. Is that an accurate observation? Like is there science to that? It's just kind of my observation across various bags, bowls, and heating methods. This plays into the appeal of thin pipes, too, because it seems much easier to get big clouds from smaller amounts of gear. I can't stand smoking from a bowl loaded with like, a fuckin' half gram. Shit's nasty, gets burnt after the first crackback and only gets worse. So I load really small amounts and smoke em to ash, or damn near it, with every hit tasting just like the first.
With thicker pipes, though, it feels like the less you load, the more it just kinda melts smokelessly before ultimately burning. Sometimes it doesn't matter how much I load, I still get little or no smoke from thick glass; regardless of if I keep my flame 4in away or the recommended 1-2.

All of these comparisons have been made with the same dope -- two different batches from two different sources -- and although one bag seems more sensitive to burns overall, the results seem pretty consistent. A third batch from another separate party will be thrown in the mix over the weekend.

TL;NGAF -- I guess it's just odd to me that people seem to swear by thick pipes and shun thin ones? I've genuinely never seen a tweaker hold the opinion that thin glass is better, but lowkey I'd buy nothing but thin glass if it wasn't such a wild inconvenience to have to buy in bulk and/or constantly replace.
Crackback????
 
TL;DR the question explains itself. Seems like each time a bowl recrystallizes, its vaporizing temp increases for the next melt. Bonus question: why is the crackback different after each melt? Like, first few melts I'll have a l e g g y b o i but after a few re-melts, I'm stuck with a boi of m a n y square. Why is that? Any chance it's heat-related?

As far as the thin vs thick debate & smoking method, for which tips are appreciated:
Full disclosure I have only ever used what I see described on Bluelight as "American style" pipes. Bubble-on-a-stick type situation.

I had to make a pit stop for a pipe the other day, and of course went ahead and bought a backup. Not wanting to say Nah and go to another shop, I said fuck it and took the 2for5 deal on the shittiest pipes I have ever seen. Short, paper thin, with itty bitty bowls. Relatable in that seemed it as though it would shatter if looked at funny.
Anyway I was salty as hell. Surprisingly, though, they were my favorite so far. Best lil things I ever smoked out of. Now, I had bought them 2-3 days ago, and both are already broken (for obvious reasons, of course. but for transparency these reasons were scrape-related, not heat-related) so I did not opt to go to the same place for my replacements.

With thicker glass, it feels like I either have to over heat, or over-twirl in order to prevent over heating. With the latter, too much of the glass becomes hot and I get lil baby bitch hits. Also seems to burn much faster.
With the thin pipes, I would hold my flame (I use a Clipper) like 4in from the bowl. Seems excessive, I know, and it does feel a bit much to do. But the flame is tall as hell. Anyway, it would melt quickly, clearly, and crack back without contact with any cool surface; wet or otherwise. On top of that it was some of the holiest, most beautiful, easily/evenly-spread crackback I've seen to date.

With both options, though, it feels like the more times a bowl is heated and then cooled; the warmer it needs to get the next time it's heated. Is that an accurate observation? Like is there science to that? It's just kind of my observation across various bags, bowls, and heating methods. This plays into the appeal of thin pipes, too, because it seems much easier to get big clouds from smaller amounts of gear. I can't stand smoking from a bowl loaded with like, a fuckin' half gram. Shit's nasty, gets burnt after the first crackback and only gets worse. So I load really small amounts and smoke em to ash, or damn near it, with every hit tasting just like the first.
With thicker pipes, though, it feels like the less you load, the more it just kinda melts smokelessly before ultimately burning. Sometimes it doesn't matter how much I load, I still get little or no smoke from thick glass; regardless of if I keep my flame 4in away or the recommended 1-2.

All of these comparisons have been made with the same dope -- two different batches from two different sources -- and although one bag seems more sensitive to burns overall, the results seem pretty consistent. A third batch from another separate party will be thrown in the mix over the weekend.

TL;NGAF -- I guess it's just odd to me that people seem to swear by thick pipes and shun thin ones? I've genuinely never seen a tweaker hold the opinion that thin glass is better, but lowkey I'd buy nothing but thin glass if it wasn't such a wild inconvenience to have to buy in bulk and/or constantly replace.

I've never had a problem with getting a good cloud from thick or thin pipes.... but I do prefer thicker ones, mainly because they're more durable & last longer (thinner ones tend to break easier imo)


That being said....
Make sure you're breathing out before you take your hit (doesn't matter if it's a thin or thick pipe)...
Also, have you tried heating up the (thicker) pipes off to the side of the puddle then moving the flame under the puddle? That way when you roll it, it's rolling onto an already hot surface, so it doesn't start to cool immediately & stays heated long enough for you to get a decent sized cloud?

Lastly...I've always had issues with my thicker pipes getting thin & breaking (or thin pipes breaking really soon after buying them) if i use a torch to clean them... so I like to use Whink to clean my pipes cuz it doesn't thin out my pipes. i just pour a lil bit into a disposable plastic cup , enough to cover the bowl on my pipe, and put my dirty pipe in the cup & after about a minute or two, I take it to out and rinse it really good & it's like it's brand new again. Idk if you use a torch to clean your pipes, but considering you seem to like thin pipes, I really recommend trying Whink.... it might help prolong the "life" of your pipes.
 
Where can I buy whink? I've been looking for that stuff for years!
 
Where can I buy whink? I've been looking for that stuff for years!
 
Where can I buy whink? I've been looking for that stuff for years!
You can buy it online from Walmart or Amazon. My local Walmart stopped having it in their stores, so when I order they their website I usually have to wait like 2-3 days for it to be shipped.
 
Maybe some material gets too hot and gets smoked rather than vaped then residue coats the pipe.

The carpet surfers will never stop - it is part of the routine practically lol. I use to have friends that would pull small chunks of bud and roaches from my carpet and claim them as "Found" -- Which I allowed cuz it was amusing (But cmon now if its laying in my room ya didn't discover it Columbus! -- I just haven't got that desperate yet haha)

If they do not have glass roses as convenient stores and local Walmarts or smoke shops (They do I would bet)

What my old friends would do is get a tire pressure gauge(?) metal tube with a cylinder of sort on the end -- go ahead and crack that cylinder off and stuff chore boy down one side of it (as per usual). They swore these worked better than glass tubes but I kinda think they were fools. ---- Put it this way I "Smoked crack" with them many times and never got high on crack.

(They were stingy as fuck was the problem, tell me to light around the edges give me a sliver passing it like a pot pipe, 'can I save my slivers to the end and get one real hit?' NO!' --- alright alright--- than it looked like they took the flame straight to it tbh haha)

I saw one dude (A respected fella) take literally ONE LINE OF COKE, rock it up, tin foil and an undersize pop bottle --- that thing filled with white/yellow smoke all the way through I was amazed. Dudes eyes just dilated like he instantly ate an 8th of shrooms, alright man good seeing ya -- and he was off to whatever was next.

Id prolly go bubble pipe before trying to do the tinfoil pop bottle ashes thing -- but I don't have the personal wisdom. Just some things I know
 
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