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Cocaine Crack Cocaine - Freebase Megathread

Something else lots of you deny, but is really true, that drugs in salt form have a max purity after production that is far from 100%, so everyone claiming that they have 90% or 100% pure coke are full of shit, since the max purity of hcl coke is only 89% pure, so can you imagine how extremely pure our average quality of 80% is and how almost totally pure was the coke i got from 84 to 86%, and I have a source that belongs to the most trustable in the world, jellinek, its in dutch but it probably will be clear.

Or many bs i hear around here that ppl their meth would be 99% to 100% pure while this source shows that meth hcl has a max purity of 80%, of course bases can in theory go up to 99%, however, clinical grade coke is only max 99% pure and its liquid coke.

Also, someone with personal experience with labs agreed with me that labs indeed have to be sterile and all tools also for handling drugs.

In a professional lab with professional help and sterile tools i was able to make 94% pure basecoke, so no home basecoke cooked base, and since i already proved by source earlyer in this thread that crack is lower purity than basecoke, definitely not crack can come close to my 94% purity basecoke, and this basecoke is probably the purest you can get without having acces to a lab that produces clinical grade, ergo medicinal labs.

Translated from the text above the list it sais that if you want to compare your lab test result with advice dosages in salt form like on pikhal, erowid or psychonaut wiki, you have to use this list to calculate it correctly.

And this source is the source of all test labs both gc ms upto most specifical labs in amsterdam, which are all professional test labs, so if they say this stuff its hard to deny that this info is correct.

@sekio which makes it impossible you for a few g had 85% and if you look up the source i posted earlyer its also impossible you had 90% pure crack and i will keep searching until i find a source that confirms crack max purity dont even is 80%.

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"In a professional lab with professional help and sterile tools i was able to make 94% pure basecoke"

And yet you aren't a practiced chemist nor do you seem to have formal chemistry training or education. That 6% can easily come from human error especially with a starting material down in the mid 80s. If you had starting material closer to 98% it would be easier.

The salt is part of the compound and dosages are adjusted based on that what are you talking about. Purity is judged in regards to impurities which the salt is not... I can't believe you're still going on about this, I'm not even reading the rest of your word salad based on the nonsense in the first couple paragraphs
 
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someguyontheinternet said:
"In a professional lab with professional help and sterile tools i was able to make 94% pure basecoke"

And yet you aren't a practiced chemist nor do you seem to have formal chemistry training or education. That 6% can easily come from human error especially with a starting material down in the mid 80s. If you had starting material closer to 98% it would be easier.

The salt is part of the compound and dosages are adjusted based on that what are you talking about. Purity is judged in regards to impurities which the salt is not... I can't believe you're still going on about this, I'm not even reading the rest of your word salad based on the nonsense in the first couple paragraphs
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Werent you the one who claimed that for drugs labs should not be sterile? Well they do.

And i know everything about the max purities, the salt and impurities and residues and much more, seems like you lack more basic chemistry than me, besides i got chemistry as supporting course at one of my university studies for which i had full score so at that level i guess i know more than just the most simple basics, you just say things of which you assume i dont know shit while about the things you mentioned i know everything.

I even worked a while for jellinek, for which we got a broad schooling, ended up doing research as well as among other things assisted in the test labs, so i think i know more and have more expierence than you when it comes to drugs facts, also i regularly keep following all statistics and so on.

And no im not a pro chemist but like i said i got professional help.

Dont see the point of your reply since it only consists of negative and wrong assumptions about me seems the point was simply trashing me which sais lots about you and nothing about me.

You talk about how much easyer it would be to get higher than 94% purity, you dont seem to realize that anything noticably higher would be almost clinical grade for which only medicinal labs from the highest possible quality and with the most skilled chemists is capable to, and clinical grade coke is 99% pure and can only be that pure in liquid form, so I really doubt that its within most if not almost all or even all others its possible to get any noticably purer quality with a purity thats actually higher or only just one percent or so higher than 94%.

Getting 99% pure basecoke seems to me only in theory possible, but in practice not possible, definitely since at least from 99% purity on, this can only be in liquid form.

The average quality of basecoke here, being also among the highest in the world, is actually only about 78% to 83%... And 10% more purity, actually 11%, but just a 10% difference in purity both hcl as base makes already a very big difference, thats why 60% coke is seen as low quality and 70% as decent quality, while globally 60% is in fact among the higher purities that these days is present, i got a source stating that up until some years ago coke purity in the uk was only 1 to 7% and in some cases contained no coke at all, or like the extremely expensive coke from some aussies about only 5%, its not even possible to get any coke effect in those cases but only psycho active cut crap effects.

Or many countries with only 20% purity.

On average, quality over here is more than just a bit higher than most other countries.

Compared to what almost any other basecoke user, let alone crack user, who all cook at home with a spoon, the difference in purity must be very noticably be lower than 94%, so realistically 94% is more or less as good as it gets imo... And if you could get 1 or 2% more pure this would not give any real to no at all noticable difference in effect or taste or anything...

Btw i started with 86% pure hcl which is probably about the highest possible quality worldwide and didnt contained any cuts that could not be filtered out by ammonia that alone makes it possible to get to 94%, if you compare to the average quality of 40 to 60% in the usa with many different cuts of which surely some cant even with ammonia be filtered out, let alone with baking soda, also makes it impossible that all average users buying small amounts could ever get near this purity, even with a sterile lab and professional help...

And i see nothing wrong while after already given sources that support my statements and ppl still refuse to accept these statements to provide more sources that also support my statements.

And while most likely almost all info i give is factual and i actually support lots of these things with several different sources and many highly trustable ones, you still are so arrogant and know so very little and have such a big ego that you even still actually say in public that what i say are nonsense.

How can nonsense be supported by several different trusted sources??? While you are talking shit and trash and you never gave one source or not even one argument showing anything i said is nonsense while i know you told nonsense since you said a lab for drugs should not be sterile while an unknown confirmed it should and also the professionals i know confirmed this, and because you thought you knew better while you actually were wrong you had the nerve to say therefor i lacked basic chemistry knowledge while now seems you lacked this basic knowledge and you even ridiculed me for no reason because of that.

Knowing now you were wrong and i was right, for once now seriously and honest, looking back on your own reactions and your own stupidity, what image does that give you?

Unless anyone gives a reasonable and civil reply in an adult and respectful way a reply, im not going to reply anymore to stupid, non argumented, wrong info with insulting and childish shit and trashtalk.

Only possible that i post maybe few more sources should they support new things i also claimed.

And as for now i give up trying to communicate with you or ppl like you.
 
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Antiprosynthesis said:
Im not saying that antwerp is the only city with quality coke, but only that antwerp has the highest purity coke in the world, and also about all other drugs are extremely pure, and amsterdam has very pure drugs, is of some drugs the biggest producer in the world and that some drugs here broke every record in purity all over the world! Scroll up a bit and youll see i posted 3 articles that say Im right in everything i said.
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I will be visiting Amsterdam for the first time in October for the Bitcoin conference. I hope you're right about purity (I believe you because I've heard nothing but great things and makes sense given their stance), looking forward to it. Where I'm from everything is stomped on or made in someones bath tub and it's really sad that you cannot easily find good product.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
I wasn't talking about myself. Part of my training does include chemistry but I'm on the biological side because I'm in neuropharmacology. I was actually talking about sekio

Chemistry labs don't need to be sterile, labs or areas in a lab dealing with cell cultures and surgery do. You definitely don't need a lab to be sterile to produce high purity basecoke lmao that's such a weird claim

We're saying you don't understand chemistry, which seems to be true
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Studied neuropsychopharmacology at the university as well! Love my high IQ friends haha, scored at 162 IQ on the Hauselbauer at age 16. Probably in the 145-150 range now after years of using.
 
Antiprosynthesis said:
Its simply impossible for almost any average user to get 80% purity coke just for buying a few g, 80% is almost as pure as coke gets anywhere in the world, by the time a large amount big enough to be 80% when some of that coke comes in your hands, an average user, it has past so many dealers that instead of 80% it in the best case is not more than 60%, if you would be even the slightest bit into the coke world you should know that for 80% you will have to buy several kilos, also the statistics clearly did not mention any higher purity than 60%, while about europe clearly was stated to have upto 80% purities.

And you totally get me wrong, im not saying that there are no other places where you can get decent quality drugs or any shit like that.

You never visited antwerp or amsterdam so you cant even start to imagine in what several ways we belong to the ultimate top of the drug scene worldwide, i simply would like to make you aware that high purity here is not the same as high purity in about any other country, high purity over here means in extreme ways, purity that is practically or even totally pure, like I now have a source for 100% pure ld amp, you will never before had any drug that even comes close to our purities, and once a drug is totally pure than the effects are not only way stronger but also so very different that any pure drug isnt at all anymore like however decent but still cut crap from the same drug except once pure its an entirely new drug. Im awake since monday and had up untill now thursday nonstop full effects and still and all these days and nights i only did 3 small lines, even you americans top quality meth needs way more redosing, you never had amp that even got close to full purity amp hence you never before expierenced what amp actually really does to you, I have already all this time nonstop euphoria, but such extreme intense euphoria that its among only very few other drugs about the best euphoria ever! And i fully get it should this sound strange, even I after already lots of experience with really decent amp would have never expected that even pure amp could give any kind of real euphoria, and turns out it gives among the very best few euphorias that i ever had.

I dropped every other drug after one line of this pure amp i didnt even did coke anymore and coke was almost my entire life my biggest love and compared to this pure amp i feel like even basecoke couldnt give me any effect even close to what i feel now.

And such intense drugs we have from about every drug possible over here.

You think im greatly going over the top with what i say about here, but over here its like the only magical place ever in many ways but mostly drugwise, not one other city can deliver what we over here can deliver, and , here are many things possible and even social accepted that would by far be totally impossible in any other city...

Just trust me, this is the only real ultimate drug culture that i even cant imagine one thing that could improve it here...

Dont think this is my ego talking, i just want to say we have the most drugs and the best drugs in the world where its not even illegal to posses or use any drug you want.

Its a dream within a dream.
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The Amp sounds absolutely delightful fuck. The best I had were the red phos days in America in early 2000s, you would take a hit of the meth and your eyes would roll into the back of your head. You couldn't stop smoking it. Now it's this Mexican garbage, they use who-knows-what and consistently gives me a bone modulation issue equivalent of my bones melting it sucks. Pretty much zero euphoria but you'll stay up 3-4 days on a small amount (used to consistently stay up for 1-2 weeks but the psychosis and body wear was really bad at that point).

Amsterdam sounds like an addicts dream. Can't wait for my trip here in October.
 
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Btw, i talked tonight with some other americans and told them the average coke purity in the states was only 40 to 60% and they reacted with saying they figured it would have been quite a bit lower purity even, they said that the usa only had crap coke, which I already suspected cause i travelled the states with local friends and also that was all pure crap, so i told them someone claimed getting 80% for only a few g and they all said that this would be pure bs.

Im saying it one last time nobody in the world gets 80% for just a few g, so you are full of shit, dont know a thing about coke or the coke scene and your crack never could be 90%, im quite sure you never even had not a bit decent coke but you have such an ego that you pretend to have impossible purities cause you figured nobody would actually know so much about coke and the scene and i do lots of research about purity and cuts all over the world so you didnt think anyone would know instantly ifs bs but i did know instantly and i didnt give up till i had the real purity of coke in the states as proof that you didnt know what absurd claimes you made, and now you cant even admitt to yourself that your coke is probably only 50% pure and you really believed it was top quality you didnt know better cause you never had better coke and probably never will hahaha
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To be honest he's probably getting coke with way less purity than that. The coke on average here is absolute garbage. Unless you live in LA or Miami you're lucky to get 10-20% purity. A lot of the coke in LA being cut with meth now. I highly doubt that guy is getting anything over 30% purity in the states unless he's buying big quantity before it gets cut or he magically knows someone who has relatively pure product. Been doing it for 20 years here in the states - we had some good powder here in the early to mid 2000s, but haven't seen it in ages. Best I had recently was in LA in 2018 gave me amazing euphoria, was eating it for breakfast, lunch and dinner, but whatever it was cut with destroyed my nose.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
DNMs have only become more prevalent IMO I think you would be surprised if you checked them out. There are tons of third party reviews with lab and reagent testing as well
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After WHM haven't dabbled but would love to be educated. I miss the OG days of DNM, but during 2012-2020 just could not find many good vendors. Would love to hear your take on the matter.
 
OrbitalCombustion said:
I will be visiting Amsterdam for the first time in October for the Bitcoin conference. I hope you're right about purity (I believe you because I've heard nothing but great things and makes sense given their stance), looking forward to it. Where I'm from everything is stomped on or made in someones bath tub and it's really sad that you cannot easily find good product.
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Just dont buy from street dealers who only sell crap at very likely cheaper price and the only locals that use those sources are at Iowest level of society and are desperate and poor and such dealers will mostly have homeless customers or ppl close to that.

Try to get any average coke dealer that you send a text message and delivers by car or in the inner city really very young dealers that deliver by step but have average quality, and possibly anywhere in the inner city delivers only 5 to 10 min time, will have purity that possibly have some degree of better quatily.

This is my way of in the most careful way saying that most likely in my own very personal opion you will get from any dealer that delivers that way will give you at least quality that will better quality to the degree the expierence will be i guess noticably better.

Tho Im quite confident of this own very personal opinion of mine imo its wrong of me to share this opinion with you cause its only an assumption i make.

I cant predict what quality you will be able to get, not even if you find a dealer that delivers this way.

Also, i have no idea what quality youre used to which really can be any possibly quality no matter where youre from.

Or even if youre used to low quality you can in so many ways easily already have some expierence with high qualiy coke.

I also dont how well you are theoritically skilled in coke. Whatever quality coke youre used to, have you some degree of theoritcal knowledge about coke that makes you able at least in this way to expect even a little bit what are the effects of high qualiy coke and low quality coke.

Also highly important is how aware you are of the effects of psycho active cuts, of which im quite sure will be in to quite some of whatever low or or decent quality you get.

And even with theoretical knowledge to wich degree you are in practice possible to know which are cut effects and which are coke effects.

Many if not most average coke users consider to be most or even all effects to be coke effects. They are so used to cut effects giving powerfull stimulating effects which actually are all really negative effects that are things like getting really highly stimulated but with sharp edges, which could be anything from just feeling some tension or not despite high energy boost feel in any way relaxed as well, or could be feeling nervous, getting overly stimmed, get jitters or start tweaking, paranoia, and so on.

Or having a bad crash afterwards and insomnia.

These are all cut effects and will be totally not present in high quality coke that has no psycho active cuts.

Yet most such cuts worldwide are to some degree high enough that they at least are noticably felt in about any coke almost in every country worldide.

Most users only know coke with rather strong such effects and most will never get any other quality coke so most consider all these effects as coke effects and these seem so natural to them most users consider these negative effects as being signs of high quality coke since they expect a powerfull stim of high quality to have such negative effects they dont even consider this negative effects to be negative at all, this even is such an extremely strong conviction that these are coke effects simply cause they dont know better and have no clue about the purity and dont even know about psycho active cuts let alone what powerful and actually what effects they give, and again this such an extreme common notion that coke with even more powerful or new powerfull negative effects they consider this be higher quality and even more extreme most such users that get introduced to one time high purity coke without any psycho active cuts most such ppl are disapointed in such quality coke and prefer way lower quality with lots of such cuts.

Also tho some effects of high purity coke will be more intense, high purity consits out of many more subtle qualities that its quite normal that most ppl also well informed ppl that start out with such pure quality will at least need some few more times trying out such qualities before they actually get used to this quality and it can take bit time before this quality gets so extemely intense and and powerfull displaying only highly positive effects

High purity coke is a bit like wine, it takes some expierences and some knowledge before coke shows what in mostly my entire life was my most extreme addiction with such powerfull and intense euphoria and extreme ego boost that made it so extreme addictive to me, i long time considered it the best possible drug ever until recently.

Im not using any coke anymore by now.

Btw only if you know the effects of coke from at least 20 yrs ago you will i think agree that however pure coke is these days its highly disapointed these days and the coke of 20 yrs ago is the only real coke that ever existed upto some yrs after that.

By now the entire production process changed due mostly to cheaper but different substances, and also a lot of substances are now switched to fully synthetical compounds made to replace the original substances and more such things creating a far inferior product which i actually dont consider this product these days to be actually coke anymore... It even smells and taste totally different these days and it now smells and tastes chemical...
 
someguyontheinternet said:
I wasn't talking about myself. Part of my training does include chemistry but I'm on the biological side because I'm in neuropharmacology. I was actually talking about sekio

Chemistry labs don't need to be sterile, labs or areas in a lab dealing with cell cultures and surgery do. You definitely don't need a lab to be sterile to produce high purity basecoke lmao that's such a weird claim

We're saying you don't understand chemistry, which seems to be true
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Some of the best high speed chikin feed i ever did was coming out of a small metal shed...back in '93. I lived and grew up in Mississippi and a 4th generation cotton farmer. These cooks had access to liquid anhydrous ammonia by the gallons. It was at the top of the list as far as I'm concerned. I had some made in a lab in San Diego, 1987...was pure. And it was amazing as well! That was many moons ago...
 
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Egwahi Watalhi said:
Some of the best high speed chikin feed i ever did was coming out of a small metal shed...back in '93. I lived and grew up in Mississippi and a 4th generation cotton farmer. These cooks had access to liquid anhydrous ammonia by the gallons. It was at the top of the list as far as I'm concerned. I had some made in a lab in San Diego, 1987...was pure. And it was amazing as well! That was many moons ago...
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Also was referring to something a little stronger than coke. I'm sorry. I misread your comment and jumped the gun a little. But I agree with your "sterile environment" comment, even if my context was different than yours.
 
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Also was referring to something a little stronger than coke. I'm sorry. I misread your comment and jumped the gun a little. But I agree with your "sterile environment" comment, even if my context was different than yours.
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So maybe you quoted the wrong person in your previous reply and you actually agree with me since i was claiming that a lab should be sterile to create highest purity, and you actually disagree with the person you quoted, in which case you are correct, or else you agree that a lab should not be sterile if you quoted the correct person in your previous message, in which case you are wrong.

Grtz.
 
Egwahi Watalhi said:
Some of the best high speed chikin feed i ever did was coming out of a small metal shed...back in '93. I lived and grew up in Mississippi and a 4th generation cotton farmer. These cooks had access to liquid anhydrous ammonia by the gallons. It was at the top of the list as far as I'm concerned. I had some made in a lab in San Diego, 1987...was pure. And it was amazing as well! That was many moons ago...
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Antiprosynthesis said:
So maybe you quoted the wrong person in your previous reply and you actually agree with me since i was claiming that a lab should be sterile to create highest purity, and you actually disagree with the person you quoted, in which case you are correct, or else you agree that a lab should not be sterile if you quoted the correct person in your previous message, in which case you are wrong.

Grtz.
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Perhaps the small metal shed was a sterile environment

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