Misc Piracetam

[anonymouse77]

Does anyone know much about piracetam or have much experience? I have 800mg tablets but also started taking the supplement Mucuna Dopa (which has 15% l-dopa) every second morning. Could I take the piracetam on the other days I don't take Mucuna dopa?

I tried to find out if piracetam affects dopamine and I found:

When taken in low doses, it decreases serotonin, while increasing noradrenaline, and dopamine in high doses.

I wasn't sure what was considered a low dose vs high dose.

Thank you for reading.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Im interested in piracetam too. Havent tried it. Have you discovered anything since posting this

 

[Nas47]

used this long time ago.i did not felt any effects after some regimen.nootropic stuff....but may be for someone is effective idk

 

[anonymouse77]

Im interested in piracetam too. Havent tried it. Have you discovered anything since posting this

Thank you for your reply. I tried it a few times with days in between at only a low/recommended dose and it gave some boost for energy to get chores done but not really recreational or anything.

For me right now my main issue is abusing kava and it's having a very bad effect on my health. I want to get off this before I add anything else to the mix just because of the effects on my body.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Thank you for your reply. I tried it a few times with days in between at only a low/recommended dose and it gave some boost for energy to get chores done but not really recreational or anything.

For me right now my main issue is abusing kava and it's having a very bad effect on my health. I want to get off this before I add anything else to the mix just because of the effects on my body.

I hear you about kava. Ive used it but fortunately not abused kava in particular. It’s rough on the kidneys or liver (I forget which, liver I think). Despite not remembering the details, I researched it before and recall the takeaway: I was convinced that NAC reduces the ill effects. I take NAC every time I take it.

 

[anonymouse77]

I hear you about kava. Ive used it but fortunately not abused kava in particular. It’s rough on the kidneys or liver (I forget which, liver I think). Despite not remembering the details, I researched it before and recall the takeaway: I was convinced that NAC reduces the ill effects. I take NAC every time I take it.

Thank you for the reply and understanding. I got kind of hooked on the slight euphoria that the high dose was giving me and went to town on it to the point where I was itching and my eyes were burning badly with the skin all around them going dry and scaly/flaky. I looked it up and saw it's a member of the pepper family and it was like I was being poisoned by it. That's on me though and using it at high doses which I shouldn't. I am also concerned about my liver as I heard that it can cause liver damage. I will try NAC if I don't improve just from stopping it. I am kind of in a bad way today (first day without it) and I could tell it was having a bad effect on me mentally to the point I took seroquel as I read it increases dopamine at high levels.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Thank you for the reply and understanding. I got kind of hooked on the slight euphoria that the high dose was giving me and went to town on it to the point where I was itching and my eyes were burning badly with the skin all around them going dry and scaly/flaky. I looked it up and saw it's a member of the pepper family and it was like I was being poisoned by it. That's on me though and using it at high doses which I shouldn't. I am also concerned about my liver as I heard that it can cause liver damage. I will try NAC if I don't improve just from stopping it. I am kind of in a bad way today (first day without it) and I could tell it was having a bad effect on me mentally to the point I took seroquel as I read it increases dopamine at high levels.

Speaking of dopamine, welbutrin has helped me a lot. Cures RLS for example. I have no desire to take it, zero cravings. But I always have good effects on my life and even helps me avoid other stuff. Have to use a commitment to take it.

TMG is fantastic for supporting the liver too. I do think those will help a liver heal to the extent that it can, but Im no expert about that. And no judgment for doing that. Ive done similar stuff due to lack of control

 

[anonymouse77]

Speaking of dopamine, welbutrin has helped me a lot. Cures RLS for example. I have no desire to take it, zero cravings. But I always have good effects on my life and even helps me avoid other stuff. Have to use a commitment to take it.

TMG is fantastic for supporting the liver too. I do think those will help a liver heal to the extent that it can, but Im no expert about that. And no judgment for doing that. Ive done similar stuff due to lack of control

Thank you for the recommendation about welbutrin. I know of it and have taken it in the past and would try it again. I will ask my doctor about it when I go again.

Thanks for telling me about TMG also - I will look into it. Right now I am worried that I might have damaged my body and wondering if I should make a post about it but I don't want to panic. I don't know what to do. Thanks for no judgement also.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

Take Choline with your Piracetam. It greatly amplifies the effects. When I first started taking it, I took it for a few days at work and didn't really notice much. Then I added Choline and was sharp as fuck and chattering all day long. I think people even wondered what was up.

Piracetum is just mental sharpness with no physical stimulation. It can be quite noticeable. If you try to push it too hard, you will get a headache.
I can't take it much at all anymore because it also adds to neck tension. However, I used to take it on and off for years.
I was taking a couple few college courses a year, so 2-3 out of 5 semesters, and I took Piracetum while taking a class. On and off like that, it worked quite well to help in my efforts.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Thank you for the recommendation about welbutrin. I know of it and have taken it in the past and would try it again. I will ask my doctor about it when I go again.

Thanks for telling me about TMG also - I will look into it. Right now I am worried that I might have damaged my body and wondering if I should make a post about it but I don't want to panic. I don't know what to do. Thanks for no judgement also.

How are you doing today? Are you able to distinguish withdrawal from any harm that may be there? Tmg and nac are both mild things; lots of people take just for general health. There may be stronger solutions idk. Post sounds wise imho. But yeah, my way would be to rebuke any damage and pray for healing in Jesus Name. Powerful ime. Ive seen bona fide undeniable miracles. Big deal for a former hardcore, lifelong atheist. Christ has more forgiveness than we can possibly use up (not that we want to after realizing this, but nobody’s perfect). But I dont have to write more about that unless have interest or question - just hard for me not to write what Id do in such a situation and where Id turn. Ok man good luck

 

[anonymouse77]

How are you doing today? Are you able to distinguish withdrawal from any harm that may be there? Tmg and nac are both mild things; lots of people take just for general health. There may be stronger solutions idk. Post sounds wise imho. But yeah, my way would be to rebuke any damage and pray for healing in Jesus Name. Powerful ime. Ive seen bona fide undeniable miracles. Big deal for a former hardcore, lifelong atheist. Christ has more forgiveness than we can possibly use up (not that we want to after realizing this, but nobody’s perfect). But I dont have to write more about that unless have interest or question - just hard for me not to write what Id do in such a situation and where Id turn. Ok man good luck

Thank you so much for checking on me. I survived the night and took a seroquel and a 5mg valium yesterday/last night as I was panicking a bit. I could kind of tell the difference between the brain withdrawals and body effects. The body effects were obvious with a feeling of poisoning and a strong pepper feeling/smell coming from my head/eyes and also feeling weird and almost tasting it also from my stomach/liver which scared me a lot. It's Tuesday morning here now and I took none yesterday and ran out on Sunday officially where I took a lot lower dose than the previous about 2 weeks because I had run out and was trying to taper it. I was scared I had killed my liver but felt the brain withdrawal effects could be overcome with time. I just feel low and emotional today mentally with very low energy but I was feeling awful mentally on the kava apart from the euphoria I felt immediately after dosing so I am glad in a way I am out of it. I definitely don't crave it at all and the thought makes me ill like I've been poisoned from it but I kind of crave mental relief from sadness if that makes sense. But I won't seek it from kava again.

Thank you also for the advice about asking in Jesus name. I was very desperate last night and didn't actually pray but I was scared for my life and felt that if I survived then I should be grateful. I was averaging almost 50g a day of the powder for about 2 weeks. I bought about 8 x 50g packets from local shop and got a 250g packet online. I was contemplating buying a half kilo pack of it but I am grateful I didn't as I cannot control myself with things. So I am one day out of it fully and the pepper poisoning feeling is a bit less today so each day I hope I improve. I am just drinking water to try and flush my system of the awful stuff.

 

[anonymouse77]

Take Choline with your Piracetam. It greatly amplifies the effects. When I first started taking it, I took it for a few days at work and didn't really notice much. Then I added Choline and was sharp as fuck and chattering all day long. I think people even wondered what was up.

Piracetum is just mental sharpness with no physical stimulation. It can be quite noticeable. If you try to push it too hard, you will get a headache.
I can't take it much at all anymore because it also adds to neck tension. However, I used to take it on and off for years.
I was taking a couple few college courses a year, so 2-3 out of 5 semesters, and I took Piracetum while taking a class. On and off like that, it worked quite well to help in my efforts.

Thank you for your reply and good advice. I will look into choline for sure. I am glad it helped you for a time when you needed it.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Thank you so much for checking on me. I survived the night and took a seroquel and a 5mg valium yesterday/last night as I was panicking a bit. I could kind of tell the difference between the brain withdrawals and body effects. The body effects were obvious with a feeling of poisoning and a strong pepper feeling/smell coming from my head/eyes and also feeling weird and almost tasting it also from my stomach/liver which scared me a lot. It's Tuesday morning here now and I took none yesterday and ran out on Sunday officially where I took a lot lower dose than the previous about 2 weeks because I had run out and was trying to taper it. I was scared I had killed my liver but felt the brain withdrawal effects could be overcome with time. I just feel low and emotional today mentally with very low energy but I was feeling awful mentally on the kava apart from the euphoria I felt immediately after dosing so I am glad in a way I am out of it. I definitely don't crave it at all and the thought makes me ill like I've been poisoned from it but I kind of crave mental relief from sadness if that makes sense. But I won't seek it from kava again.

Thank you also for the advice about asking in Jesus name. I was very desperate last night and didn't actually pray but I was scared for my life and felt that if I survived then I should be grateful. I was averaging almost 50g a day of the powder for about 2 weeks. I bought about 8 x 50g packets from local shop and got a 250g packet online. I was contemplating buying a half kilo pack of it but I am grateful I didn't as I cannot control myself with things. So I am one day out of it fully and the pepper poisoning feeling is a bit less today so each day I hope I improve. I am just drinking water to try and flush my system of the awful stuff.

Sounds like youre handling it really well now. Really well. But yeah a difficult situation still. Uncertainty. I think what might end-up happening is not so much that the nac and tmg will heal your liver as support it to keep it healthy - and keep it doing more for you.

I heard something about b vitamins and liver I think. Drinkers hurt their liver and supposed to take b-complex to help that. B-complex was touted for “stress” because gives energy, and then people got confused and started saying b-complex for anxiety. Is all over the internet. Total opposite. Not a good thing for you right now. Im pretty sure it’s only one or two of them that causes anxiety, like maybe 5 and/or 2 or something. Not 9 I know for sure. They give folate (9) and b1 in most detoxes Ive been to. B1 never gave me anxiety - one of the few things I take. I believe 1 and 9 do help, but not sure what with. Perhaps detoxing the system, or changes to the brain to recover. 9 needs to be folate not folic acid. 8% of people are allergic to folic acid (why doctors can’t change to a good form is crazy), including my wife who got quite sick from folic acid a doc gave her.

Im def hopeful that you’ll get over any longterm effects from kava. Sounds totally possible. Hang in there and God bless you, your body, your life, and your afterlife.

 

[anonymouse77]

Sounds like youre handling it really well now. Really well. But yeah a difficult situation still. Uncertainty. I think what might end-up happening is not so much that the nac and tmg will heal your liver as support it to keep it healthy - and keep it doing more for you.

I heard something about b vitamins and liver I think. Drinkers hurt their liver and supposed to take b-complex to help that. B-complex was touted for “stress” because gives energy, and then people got confused and started saying b-complex for anxiety. Is all over the internet. Total opposite. Not a good thing for you right now. Im pretty sure it’s only one or two of them that causes anxiety, like maybe 5 and/or 2 or something. Not 9 I know for sure. They give folate (9) and b1 in most detoxes Ive been to. B1 never gave me anxiety - one of the few things I take. I believe 1 and 9 do help, but not sure what with. Perhaps detoxing the system, or changes to the brain to recover. 9 needs to be folate not folic acid. 8% of people are allergic to folic acid (why doctors can’t change to a good form is crazy), including my wife who got quite sick from folic acid a doc gave her.

Im def hopeful that you’ll get over any longterm effects from kava. Sounds totally possible. Hang in there and God bless you, your body, your life, and your afterlife.

Thank you so much for your lovely reply. I think I will survive now as I am feeling a bit better this morning and drinking coffee and was eating yesterday, etc. I thought it might be like a paracetamol overdose where it will fail my liver over time but it's not that so I doubt it. That is so interesting about the B vitamins. I looked up and B1 is thiamine which they do give you for alcohol rehabilitation and withdrawal (I had it once as I was drinking non-stop late last year after my dad died but stopped). B9 is folic acid but there is another form of it called folinic acid which is meant to be better if you have these other syndromes where you can't process some B vitamins right. It's all complicated and I don't understand it fully. It's called MTHFR gene and to do with processing folate or something. I might supplement with B1 in the morning and avoid the combined B vitamin multis. Thanks for the tip about it not helping with anxiety. I always thought they were good for anxiety and bought some disolvable B (like berocca) recently for that.

It sounds like you know a lot about supplements and things. Thanks for the well wishes - you too. Sometimes I feel like I want to die but I don't have the courage to do anything about it. I panicked when I thought I had overdosed on the kava so I'm a coward deep down.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Thank you so much for your lovely reply. I think I will survive now as I am feeling a bit better this morning and drinking coffee and was eating yesterday, etc. I thought it might be like a paracetamol overdose where it will fail my liver over time but it's not that so I doubt it. That is so interesting about the B vitamins. I looked up and B1 is thiamine which they do give you for alcohol rehabilitation and withdrawal (I had it once as I was drinking non-stop late last year after my dad died but stopped). B9 is folic acid but there is another form of it called folinic acid which is meant to be better if you have these other syndromes where you can't process some B vitamins right. It's all complicated and I don't understand it fully. It's called MTHFR gene and to do with processing folate or something. I might supplement with B1 in the morning and avoid the combined B vitamin multis. Thanks for the tip about it not helping with anxiety. I always thought they were good for anxiety and bought some disolvable B (like berocca) recently for that.

It sounds like you know a lot about supplements and things. Thanks for the well wishes - you too. Sometimes I feel like I want to die but I don't have the courage to do anything about it. I panicked when I thought I had overdosed on the kava so I'm a coward deep down.

Everyone is a coward deep down. Unless theyre a complete fool and trust in themselves and believe the lie that they can save themselves. It’s called pride, and many can run a long way with it, the end being destruction or a change of heart. I ran a LLOOOONNG way on pride, including the part about being a complete fool for doing so. Arrogant atheist too proud to accept the reality all around me or accept free forgiveness. Maybe it was only addiction that stopped it from working til near the end of this life. Thank God though. I need a savior.

Don’t die; there’s hope. You may not see it but it’s real.

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We rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now [this] hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

 

[anonymouse77]

Everyone is a coward deep down. Unless theyre a complete fool and trust in themselves and believe the lie that they can save themselves. It’s called pride, and many can run a long way with it, the end being destruction or a change of heart. I ran a LLOOOONNG way on pride, including the part about being a complete fool for doing so. Arrogant atheist too proud to accept the reality all around me or accept free forgiveness. Maybe it was only addiction that stopped it from working til near the end of this life. Thank God though. I need a savior.

Don’t die; there’s hope. You may not see it but it’s real.

————

We rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now [this] hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

I hope you were able to overcome addiction and find peace. I hope we all can.

Still not sure if I'm out of the woods with this stuff. My skin texture has changed in a weird way and my palms feel rough and weird and I still feel it a bit in the back of my throat or coming from my stomach. It might just take time though.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Just seeing this. Any update or gonna wait more to see?

 

[anonymouse77]

Just seeing this. Any update or gonna wait more to see?

Thank you for your reply. It's slowly starting to get better but all around my eyes is very dry and flaky and skin falling off like snow. Areas like back of my neck is very dry and uncomfortable. I took some phenergen and an anti inflammatory yesterday to see if that helps. Palms are a bit better. Thank you for asking.

 

[EvidenceOfTheResurrection]

Are you gonna consider a hepatologist? Do you have insurance? Did you decide against nac and/or tmg or some b vitamins. I found country life b complex to be pretty mild. They dont overdo the rare b vitamins. I take one instead if the suggested two. Just thinking out loud not saying what to do

Im hopeful will continue to get better

 

[anonymouse77]

Are you gonna consider a hepatologist? Do you have insurance? Did you decide against nac and/or tmg or some b vitamins. I found country life b complex to be pretty mild. They dont overdo the rare b vitamins. I take one instead if the suggested two. Just thinking out loud not saying what to do

Im hopeful will continue to get better

I will just get a blood test done for liver enzymes when I see my doctor again I think. I ordered some nac and am waiting on delivery and also taking some milk thistle for the liver that I bought recently.

Thank you so much again for your help and kind words. It helped a lot. God bless.