Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[Invegatorture]

How long for anhedonia to fully go away? Will it definitely heal?

 

[Baddream]

Did 15h of high volume + high intensity full body workout this week. 40 sets per each muscle group. 30 with moderate ( 12-15 reps ) and 10 with heavy weight (8 reps). I'm officially a gym rat . I can now lift x2 more than pre-invega. Focus on intensity more than volume. High quality has nothing to do with volume, it has to do with intensity.

I agree that intensity, as in heavy weights, are important. But we need a certain amount of volume to induce hypertrophy. I usually start with 90% for 3-5 reps, 80% for 8-12, then some assistance exercises for 15-20 reps. It’s possible to do both, but I focus what energy I have on maintaining strength as invega and kcal deficit leaves low energy.

What are some of your maxes?

 

[t_xeplionhell]

I agree that intensity, as in heavy weights, are important. But we need a certain amount of volume to induce hypertrophy. I usually start with 90% for 3-5 reps, 80% for 8-12, then some assistance exercises for 15-20 reps. It’s possible to do both, but I focus what energy I have on maintaining strength as invega and kcal deficit leaves low energy.

What are some of your maxes?

High intensity with enough amount of sets is required to reach hypertrophy and that's why I do 40-60 high intensity sets per muscle group weekly which require lot of effort from bodily muscles that leads to lot of hypertrophy and muscle failures. My benchpress max is x2 my body weight, biceps curl 20kg, dumbbell press around x2 my body weight.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

I usually start with 90% for 3-5 reps, 80% for 8-12, then some assistance exercises for 15-20 reps. It’s possible to do both, but I focus what energy I have on maintaining strength as invega and kcal deficit leaves low energy.

3-5 reps is too small amount for heavy weights, you should do min 6 reps

6-10 for heavy weights
12-15 for moderate weights
15-24 for high volume / light weights

 

[Baddream]

High intensity with enough amount of sets is required to reach hypertrophy and that's why I do 40-60 high intensity sets per muscle group weekly which require lot of effort from bodily muscles that leads to lot of hypertrophy and muscle failures. My benchpress max is x2 my body weight, biceps curl 20kg, dumbell press around x2 my body weight.

2x bw bench is veeery strong! Good job.

3-5 reps is too small amount for heavy weights, you should do min 6 reps

6-10 for heavy weights
12-15 for moderate weights
15-24 for high volume / light weights

I know 3-5 is not enough. But I do multiple sets 3x5 or 5x5. I’m only trying to maintain strength at this point, I don’t have the energy for higher reps.

Invega made it hard to get stronger. I will focus on becoming leaner, I hope I can get the weight down. I’m going to do some cardio today.

 

[Invegaishell]

Wait so you're saying that even after a whole 4 years you're still experiencing issues? That sounds depressing, but unsurprising at the same time. Would you say you are fully recovered in every other aspect besides that at least? And as for that, what percentage would you consider yourself recovered on the sexual side? Also no I'm not currently employed, I had worked in 3 jobs prior but had to leave my most recent one due to Invega. Because of that I'm trying to apply for disability benefits now, for pre-existing conditions but primarily for ones caused by Invega. I read the criteria for eligibility and I fall under several categories now so by that logic it should be possible.

I’ve wasted a year of my life thanks to this medication. I have lost all my friends and my body.

Happy birthday!

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Aim for recovery, but at some point we kind of need to start questioning is this sort of life is still worth living, taking (gradual) improvements we are still having or not having into calculation. And if one's life is just full of sorrow and suffering would (legal) euthanasia be a viable option? If your country doesn't offer it as a controlled legalized service then you could travel to another one where it's legalized but process would be longer and at a more cost. You might not get approved of it in some countries even where it's legalized and controlled.

@Senior Moderator now you can't warn and temp-ban me for this because I clearly said legal euthanasia and explained properly.

ive thought about assisted suicide. You go right to sleep and it’s painless. Quite expensive though

 

[Ayden]

I’m 19, had 6 or 7 shots. 2 months off obviously no improvements. How long of a recovery should I expect. I work full time and it very difficult I work with heavy equipment.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

I’ve wasted a year of my life thanks to this medication. I have lost all my friends and my body.

Happy birthday!

Shitty invega, destroying lifes and torturing people to unimaginable extremes

 

[Invegaishell]

I’m 19, had 6 or 7 shots. 2 months off obviously no improvements. How long of a recovery should I expect. I work full time and it very difficult I work with heavy equipment.

It’s different for almost everyone. I started healing at month 5. Then again at month 7. I haven’t seen any improvements since month 7 though. Almost 10 month off. Most people seem to recover at 12-24 months

 

[Ayden]

It’s different for almost everyone. I started healing at month 5. Then again at month 7. I haven’t seen any improvements since month 7 though. Almost 10 month off. Most people seem to recover at 12-24 months

Terrible what improvements did you notice? Such a long time

 

[Invegatorture]

Would we even fit the criteria for assisted suicide?

 

[Ayden]

It’s different for almost everyone. I started healing at month 5. Then again at month 7. I haven’t seen any improvements since month 7 though. Almost 10 month off. Most people seem to recover at 12-24 months

Also how old are you

 

[Invegatorture]

I’ve never been more suicidal in my life. I feel like my life is over. I am almost certain I’ve been damaged beyond repair and I see so many people not recovering their former selves. This shit is hell on earth. Can someone please give me some words of encouragement. Thanks

 

[Ayden]

I’ve never been more suicidal in my life. I feel like my life is over. I am almost certain I’ve been damaged beyond repair and I see so many people not recovering their former selves. This shit is hell on earth. Can someone please give me some words of encouragement. Thanks

Keep fighting I am in the same boat. I had 6 or 7 shots and am only 2 months off. We will get through this.

 

[Invegaishell]

Terrible what improvements did you notice? Such a long time

Pretty much everything. My anhedonia has gotten better. My conversation has gotten better but nowhere like it was. My strength is coming back. I have less sexual problems. Akathisia is lifting. I’m not functional yet at 10 months off.

Also how old are you

24. Got shot at 23.

 

[Ayden]

24. Got shot at 23.

Ok. Did you have issues getting erections that got better with time?

 

[Invegaishell]

Would we even fit the criteria for assisted suicide?

In America it is legal in some states. However, “access to the procedure is generally restricted to people with a terminal illness and less than six months to live. Patients are generally required to be mentally healthy, to get approval from multiple doctors, and to affirm the request multiple times.”

Switzerland is where you wanna go:

1. The Swiss Penal Code allows for assisted suicide, as long as the motive of those assisting is not selfish.

2. Those assisting the person to die need not be a doctor. Anyone can assist as long as their motive is altruistic

It just costs $12,500 in Switzerland.

 

[Baddream]

I’ve never been more suicidal in my life. I feel like my life is over. I am almost certain I’ve been damaged beyond repair and I see so many people not recovering their former selves. This shit is hell on earth. Can someone please give me some words of encouragement. Thanks

I was terrified as well before I noticed improvements. I was desperate for relief and thought about drugs and alc 24/7.

I kinda feel nicotine and coffee in the mornings now, and was able to take a nap today.

I think hard exercise is the only way that maybe speeds up recovery. You can use it to measure progress and stay healthy during recovery. It has so many benefits. Better than waiting around for a miracle.

 

[Invegaishell]

Ok. Did you have issues getting erections that got better with time?

Yes, I could hardly get an erection at all before 5 months. I can now get one, it’s just not the same. It’s not as easy to get one by just thinking about something sexual. I have to really be in the mood.

 

[Ayden]

Yes, I could hardly get an erection at all before 5 months. I can now get one, it’s just not the same. It’s not as easy to get one by just thinking about something sexual. I have to really be in the mood.

Damn mine is bad right now takes me forever and it’s not the same size