Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-HO-PCP Thread

[higherconciousness]

This is why I love 3-ho-pcp. Sniffed 20mg and am feeling great. Super functional, hypomanic, great antidepressant and anxiolytic. Gotta be careful of daily usage though, cause life on these 3-x-pcx compounds can get out of hand due to their subtlety. Best antidepressant ever but I know I shouldn’t be doing this all the time.

But yeah I’m at a point where I can do a 200mg shot of fxe and it just doesn’t do much, so time for a break. I’ve been through so many grams this year. It’s especially taxing on the body if used IV/IM. I make sure to use a micron filter and take all the necessary precautions, but it still can’t be good to carry on like this. That being said, it’s not as hard on the organs as straight ket.

 

[Peachy228]

I have tried this compound a week ago in various doses with no tolerance and this is what I’ve got to say.

I’ve tried it orally because I bought it in the form of 2mg tablets. On the first day I’ve tried it in 4mg followed by 2mg two hours later and another 2mg in another two hours. On the second day Ive tried 8mg and eight hours later Ive had 10mg.

The “low” dose was extremely boring. Felt exactly like taking 50-70mg of memantine. Very cold and clinical dissociation. Zero stimulation, in fact it was somewhat sedating. No warmth or opioid action going on. Very sensitive to light. Had a hard time watching a TV show because it felt so damn bright. Effects wore off in 3 hours with no residual effects. I could most definitely sleep while the effects were peaking. This dose had no visual tracers or laggy vision. Visually, the environment looked a little liminal but nothing eye catching.

The 8mg dose was definitely better in terms of dissociation but still a little clinical and cold. No tracers or laggy vision. Mild body numbness, could still get an erection and feel down there. Presumably I already had tolerance from the day before, so this time things looked pretty normal and lacked the liminal space effect. Light sensitivity was very intense. Overall the experience was boring and the effects wore off in 3 hours with no residual effects.

The 10mg dose eight hours after the 8mg dose was were the fun began. This time the dissociation was warm and the effects were similar to a 3rd/4th plateau DXM trip minus the serotonergic aspect of DXM. I liked how the effects slowly built up over the course of an hour to reach the peak that lasted like an hour and a half. The numbness I experienced from this dose was extreme. I could barely feel anything physically. Light sensitivity was so extreme that I could barely see anything. Things were pretty much white. I was beginning to blend in with the environment aka become one with everything - I guess I nearly holed, but I tried my best to not hole because I was at a family dinner and yeah no one suspected a damn thing about me because I purposely portray myself as a weird person when sober, so people don’t see a difference when I’m on something lol. I would have definitely had some nice CEV during the peak but I could not allow myself to close my eyes and enjoy the show at the time.
This dose was not stimulating at all. Effects wore off in 4 hours instead of 3. No laggy vision/tracers from this dose. There was zero mania. I was experiencing something that’s the opposite of mania because 3ho was sedating my mind. I usually get manic on DXM and my personality splits into objective (everything/God) and the subjective (me, mortal human), but absolutely nothing crazy happened with my mind on 3-ho.

I found this drug to be extremely addictive even though I was finding it boring. I would put it up there with meth. Can’t stop till I run out category. The next day after my big dose I felt an urge to be in the dissociative state and the only dissociative available to me was DXM. I took my usual 2nd plateau dose (225mg HBR) and it hit me as hard as before in terms of the dissociation, so 3-ho did not affect my DXM tolerance. However the DXM mania was completely gone. My mind was not racing and I wasn’t thinking anything crazy which was a bummer.

It’s been a few days and the urge to use dissociatives is gone. Going to take a two month break.

 

[Hexagon Sun]

To me its one of the coldest/most boring dissos out there. Pretty much any other is better. Curious as some can find that one a winner

 

[higherconciousness]

To me its one of the coldest/most boring dissos out there. Pretty much any other is better. Curious as some can find that one a winner

I personally find it more warmer and relaxing than 3-meo-pcp. There was a time in the beginning, when 3meo was awesome, but more recently the batches I got were more cold, clinical, and over stimulating. The last batch I got was about a year ago or so perhaps I need to try it again. I’m curious which analogues do you like?

 

[higherconciousness]

I know the whole affinity for mu opiod receptor hasn’t quite been demonstrated at an acceptable level, but I did an mg of my suboxone and 18mg of 3-ho-pcp and my pupils are pinned as if I actually did opiates. I’ve been on subs for 4 years and it’s never exerted any effects that makes my pupils pinned. Hmmm…

I also seem to get more pain relief from this derivative as opposed to 3-meo.

 

[3MeO]

I am experiencing tinnitus seemingly from this drug

I will report back more, but if anybody could offer any insight it would be greatly appreciated. I believe somebody reported this, but I couldn't find it with google. I'll have to read every comment (again)...

 

[Ekstasis-//7]

I've recently posted my hospital trip report on this substance. Since I was very recklessly on a number of other substances at the time and had used 3-HO-PCP quite a number of times before I think it was the combo that caused me to have a seizure/blackout type hole effect where my body was thrashing around but my mind was not consious.

I was wondering if someone would be willing to add any advice on the type of overdoses that are commonly reported with this compound on it's own when the dose is too high, such as in the case of hospitalisations? Does this one have the similar type of issue that I presume maybe common with the original PCP? I'm thinking of the kind of symtoms one might have seen in that episode of Hamilton's Pharmacopia on 5-MeO-DMT (smoked toad venom) where the person needed to be resrained and could have easily drowned, choaked on vomit, or damaged teeth while rolling on the ground, thrashing around near water? I know in the follow up episode in season 3 that he mentioned that there was a number of reports of death by these type of issues mentioned above from toad venom when there had not been people present to restain someone.

I just want to be aware to help people in the future such as if I ever get to work in emergency harm reduction 1st aid again at any festivals and people accidently overdose on 3-HO-PCP or similar subs

P.S. The Hospital Trip Report I wrote is linked here if you want to read it. Please note Trigger Warning:
3-HO-PCP – Moderately Experienced - Seizure/Blackout/Hospitalisation, NDE/Afterlife Experience

 

[higherconciousness]

I've recently posted my hospital trip report on this substance. Since I was very recklessly on a number of other substances at the time and had used 3-HO-PCP quite a number of times before I think it was the combo that caused me to have a seizure/blackout type hole effect where my body was thrashing around but my mind was not consious.

I was wondering if someone would be willing to add any advice on the type of overdoses that are commonly reported with this compound on it's own when the dose is too high, such as in the case of hospitalisations? Does this one have the similar type of issue that I presume maybe common with the original PCP? I'm thinking of the kind of symtoms one might have seen in that episode of Hamilton's Pharmacopia on 5-MeO-DMT (smoked toad venom) where the person needed to be resrained and could have easily drowned, choaked on vomit, or damaged teeth while rolling on the ground, thrashing around near water? I know in the follow up episode in season 3 that he mentioned that there was a number of reports of death by these type of issues mentioned above from toad venom when there had not been people present to restain someone.

I just want to be aware to help people in the future such as if I ever get to work in emergency harm reduction 1st aid again at any festivals and people accidently overdose on 3-HO-PCP or similar subs

P.S. The Hospital Trip Report I wrote is linked here if you want to read it. Please note Trigger Warning:
3-HO-PCP – Moderately Experienced - Seizure/Blackout/Hospitalisation, NDE/Afterlife Experience

prior to this incident were you using a daily ,did you have a substantial disso tolerance? 20-30mg as an initial dose is quite high. I used 3-ho-pcp for more than half a year daily with no issue, however my girlfriend has had episodes where i needed to restrain her to prevent injuries. She doesn't really have a tolerance and I gave her 8-10mg. I told her it can take quite some time for effects to develop, but she got impatient and while I wasn't watching did my 12mg bump. She became completely belligerent,
catatonic (not responsive and flailing around). Also even though your THC intake was quite low, THC can exponentially increase the effects of dissos. I've experience some flip outs myself from this combination so i never consume THC while on dissos.

 

[higherconciousness]

Took a 2 month break from dissos and placed an order for a g last week. Yesterday it was out for delivery along with some 6-apb hcl (although reports claim it could be 5-apb), Either way, I like both compounds.

Anyways, I waited all day for my pack and the postman never came. This is the first time my postman missed a scheduled route and now it says it's available for pick up at the post office. I was pissed, as my post man usually comes around 3-5pm and i planned to use both compounds on my day off, now im concerned that ill go all the way to the post office, to be told it's out for delivery again or they lost it.

Anyways, i'm always surprised at the lack of love this compound receives. I even prefer it to 3-meo-pcp/pce. IME i'm less prone to overdoing and having an episode than 3-meo-pcp. Since it's more subtle and less stimulating at reasonable doses, I can mix it with uppers without any compounding issues. I'm headed to the post office now, really hope they have it.

 

[LambdaDelta]

Love this one. Cheap and potent. 15mg fucks me up well enough that any motor function ceases to be a possibility. As an amusing Reddit post mentions, it really is the lazy version of 3-MeO-PCP. But that's fine by me, stimulation is not why I take dissos. I've successfully mixed it with 4 other dissos which produced a deep deep hole. Very nice synergy.
Hope more people get to experience this wonderful substance. Just don't abuse it

 

[izo]

tried it the first time the other day and found it to be a bit dirty but when the 3mg of bromazolam started to work it got better. but i wasnt impressed with 3ho-pce also...

 

[higherconciousness]

tried it the first time the other day and found it to be a bit dirty but when the 3mg of bromazolam started to work it got better. but i wasnt impressed with 3ho-pce also...

Was it the first time u tried it? IME all dissos take multiple trials before you find ur golden zone and something clicks in ur brain. I've had over a decade experimenting with 3-meo-pcp. back then the badges were completely different than the ones I've tried in the last two years or so. instead of warmth, hypomania, and euphoria, it feels cold and clinical whereas 3-HO is an amazing pain reliever, anxiolytic, and depression mitigator.

 

[izo]

Was it the first time u tried it?

Seems I got pca instead of 3meo-pcp. There wasn’t any of the typical 3ho mixed nmda/opioid high that I was expecting. So pca is rather dirty compared to the other arylcyclohexylamines…

 

[Pathogen]

I've recently posted my hospital trip report on this substance. Since I was very recklessly on a number of other substances at the time and had used 3-HO-PCP quite a number of times before I think it was the combo that caused me to have a seizure/blackout type hole effect where my body was thrashing around but my mind was not consious.

I was wondering if someone would be willing to add any advice on the type of overdoses that are commonly reported with this compound on it's own when the dose is too high, such as in the case of hospitalisations? Does this one have the similar type of issue that I presume maybe common with the original PCP? I'm thinking of the kind of symtoms one might have seen in that episode of Hamilton's Pharmacopia on 5-MeO-DMT (smoked toad venom) where the person needed to be resrained and could have easily drowned, choaked on vomit, or damaged teeth while rolling on the ground, thrashing around near water? I know in the follow up episode in season 3 that he mentioned that there was a number of reports of death by these type of issues mentioned above from toad venom when there had not been people present to restain someone.

I just want to be aware to help people in the future such as if I ever get to work in emergency harm reduction 1st aid again at any festivals and people accidently overdose on 3-HO-PCP or similar subs

P.S. The Hospital Trip Report I wrote is linked here if you want to read it. Please note Trigger Warning:
3-HO-PCP – Moderately Experienced - Seizure/Blackout/Hospitalisation, NDE/Afterlife Experience

Every single seizure that I've ever had was caused by an overdose of PCP analogues. Strangely enough, I live in one of the two places in the USA where PCP is wildly popular and widely available. I've done a lot of PCP, never had a seizure. Sure some mania here and some psychosis there, but no seizures. But over the years, PCP analogues have given me at least 8 or 9 seizures. Or maybe I'm actually just incredibly messed up and I fall into a state that strongly resembles a seizure. I have woken up in the hospital after misadventures with PCP analogues more times than I would like to admit.

 

[Esperighanto]

Every single seizure that I've ever had was caused by an overdose of PCP analogues. Strangely enough, I live in one of the two places in the USA where PCP is wildly popular and widely available. I've done a lot of PCP, never had a seizure. Sure some mania here and some psychosis there, but no seizures. But over the years, PCP analogues have given me at least 8 or 9 seizures. Or maybe I'm actually just incredibly messed up and I fall into a state that strongly resembles a seizure. I have woken up in the hospital after misadventures with PCP analogues more times than I would like to admit.

How would you compare RC variants of PCP to unsubstituted PCP, does PCP from the street feel less toxic in any noticeable way?

 

[higherconciousness]

It’s quite confounding to me that this beautiful compound is slept on and fails to get the recognition it deserves. I have an extensive history with these drugs and tried almost every disso out there. Especially when it comes to the 3-x-x compounds, this one exceeds all others by a large margin ime. Granted there are many bad batches in circulation, so perhaps that has something to do with it.

I’ve had 3 months clean from all drugs and decided to revisit 3-ho once more. Currently
i’m in the midst of severe benzo WDs. Ended up doing a 2 1/2 month taper and have been completely off for almost 3 weeks. I’m still struggling with a lot of related symptoms such as anxiety, depression, body aches, compromised cognition etc. My source only has 20g left of his OG 3-ho-pcp, so decided to order a gram.

everyone obviously reacts differently to certain compounds, but for me 3-ho-pcp is one of my top drugs, the holy grail if you will. It’s as if it hits up every necessary receptor site in just the right way, producing anxiolytic, anti depression, pain relief, energy, fluid thought processes etc.

The first few times i wasn’t a fan, but like most dissos it takes time for it to click. 1 gram will last me a decent amount of time due to its potent dosages, especially if used therapeutically. Albeit, he increased the price by double since the supply is dwindling. Nonetheless it’s worth it. I was torn between this and DCK. Seeing as how i wanted something more functional, I opted for the former.

Can’t wait to try this out again.

 

[SuperPsych]

It’s quite confounding to me that this beautiful compound is slept on and fails to get the recognition it deserves. I have an extensive history with these drugs and tried almost every disso out there. Especially when it comes to the 3-x-x compounds, this one exceeds all others by a large margin ime. Granted there are many bad batches in circulation, so perhaps that has something to do with it.

I’ve had 3 months clean from all drugs and decided to revisit 3-ho once more. Currently
i’m in the midst of severe benzo WDs. Ended up doing a 2 1/2 month taper and have been completely off for almost 3 weeks. I’m still struggling with a lot of related symptoms such as anxiety, depression, body aches, compromised cognition etc. My source only has 20g left of his OG 3-ho-pcp, so decided to order a gram.

everyone obviously reacts differently to certain compounds, but for me 3-ho-pcp is one of my top drugs, the holy grail if you will. It’s as if it hits up every necessary receptor site in just the right way, producing anxiolytic, anti depression, pain relief, energy, fluid thought processes etc.

The first few times i wasn’t a fan, but like most dissos it takes time for it to click. 1 gram will last me a decent amount of time due to its potent dosages, especially if used therapeutically. Albeit, he increased the price by double since the supply is dwindling. Nonetheless it’s worth it. I was torn between this and DCK. Seeing as how i wanted something more functional, I opted for the former.

Can’t wait to try this out again.

I'll have some 3-ho-pcp here soon from the same vendor. Had the same dilemma. Was torn between DCK and 3-HO-PCP. would love DMXE but its hard to justify it considering the cost/dose ratio. I had one batch of DCK before and remember it being pretty darn wonky but also dysphoric. So I went with 3-HO-PCP because it's the most cost effective, even at double the price.

I'm usually in the "3-HO-PCP is boring and bland" camp. Out of all the RC dissos its one of my least favorite, but I keep coming back.

This weekend my friend came over and we bumped some 3-HO-PCP and later on took 15mg of 4-HO-MET and continued bumping 3-HO-PCP. It was pretty intense initially but we had a great time. Tons of laughs. We watched How's Moving Castle and Princess Mononoke. Was a beautiful trip and I haven't had an afterglow like this in a while. My friend also says he has a great afterglow as well. I look forward to trying this in more combinations.

I did one time dose DMXE/4-HO-MIPT/4-HO-MET/3-HO-PCP/4-ACO-DMT and had a very intense but thoroughly enjoyable trip. I dont remember the dosages but they were pretty low, not counting the dissociatives.

 

[higherconciousness]

I'll have some 3-ho-pcp here soon from the same vendor. Had the same dilemma. Was torn between DCK and 3-HO-PCP. would love DMXE but its hard to justify it considering the cost/dose ratio. I had one batch of DCK before and remember it being pretty darn wonky but also dysphoric. So I went with 3-HO-PCP because it's the most cost effective, even at double the price.

I'm usually in the "3-HO-PCP is boring and bland" camp. Out of all the RC dissos its one of my least favorite, but I keep coming back.

This weekend my friend came over and we bumped some 3-HO-PCP and later on took 15mg of 4-HO-MET and continued bumping 3-HO-PCP. It was pretty intense initially but we had a great time. Tons of laughs. We watched How's Moving Castle and Princess Mononoke. Was a beautiful trip and I haven't had an afterglow like this in a while. My friend also says he has a great afterglow as well. I look forward to trying this in more combinations.

I did one time dose DMXE/4-HO-MIPT/4-HO-MET/3-HO-PCP/4-ACO-DMT and had a very intense but thoroughly enjoyable trip. I dont remember the dosages but they were pretty low, not counting the dissociatives.

It’s definitely not going to launch you to different realms, but I rather enjoy its subtle nature. I’m really obtaining it for it’s therapeutic effects as opposed to something that will get me obliterated. Not to digress, but I’m currently living at an SLE so I can’t go too hard. I ended up goin to rehab for a couple months and now i’ve been at this SLE for 3 weeks. I’m really doing this to get off of a horrible benzo habit and this far i’ve been doing well.

Anyways, I’ve actually grown quite fond of it over the past few years and for me personally it’s def in my top 5 dissos. 3-meo-pcp is too stimulating and prone to putting me into some uncomfortable places. I’ve seen some people label it as bland and boring, but I think it meets every criteria i’m looking for in a drug. There’s a warmth I don’t achieve with other 3-x-pcp/e compounds and it’s accompanied with a perfect amount of mania. Furthermore, it combines well with many types of drugs.

Even though the price went up, it still has a better cost/dose ratio then other dissos. Wish i had the money to get different ones, but im in a rough spot right now. Really want to get some 4-ho-met/mipt.

 

[Esperighanto]

I've only ever administered 3-HO-PCP orally, has anybody here experienced with vaping, insufflation, or sublingual applications? If so, how would you compare them to oral administration?

Also, what's the smallest interval of dose you'd use? I was initially using 2mg gel tabs but I feel like 2-4mg isn't that noticeable for me, while it is for many others.

 

[deficiT]

3-HO- PCP Dosing Graph
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Graph courtesy of @sernyl


Here's another post on 3-HO-PCP from an intrepid psychonaut (post is 2/3 of the way down this page):



I think F&B tried this one and was similarly unimpressed or turned off by worrisome side effects. And IIRC, there was also some concern regarding seizures.

Edit: Found F&B's post (there's another report linked here as well):



For obvious reasons, this one needs to be treated with the utmost caution. It's certainly far from the ideal candidate for the RC market.

Updated the OP here with a oral dosing graph for 3hopcp