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Great mental health results from MDMA
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dmt ? is that right?
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I still feel the damage 5 years later after my mdma years. I was once like you microdosing this drug.
This is the worst drug you could ever microdose. It will fuck you up using too much mdma to often.
Your cognitive abilities will decline and depression will get extreme. I have been down that path and road before.
There is a reason why the shuglins advocated for the 3 month rule. This is not a drug to abuse, I have been there and done that and it took alot to recover the lost neurons and repair the neurotoxicity i did to my brain over the years.
Long term MDMA abuse will make whatever depression you have now into pure torture down the road. First come the brain zaps, the inability to concertate a total lack of ability to feel happiness without the drug and your memory will become a total blur.
If your going to microdose something go with LSD or mushrooms they will help you and repair and grow new neurons.
MDMA self therapy use a blindfold take your dosage and delve deep and use the love to heal your trauma, but this is not something you can use that often without negative side effects.
If you truly seek healing, I have completely cured my PTSD with LSD and ketamine, I have seen this combo also cure others of meth addiction and PTSD aswell.
Or mixing ketamine and mushrooms.
MDMA can def feel healing, but its not good for your brain long term. Ketamine used wisely should heal alot of your mental health before the bladder issues even become a thing.
This is the worst drug you could ever microdose. It will fuck you up using too much mdma to often.
Your cognitive abilities will decline and depression will get extreme. I have been down that path and road before.
There is a reason why the shuglins advocated for the 3 month rule. This is not a drug to abuse, I have been there and done that and it took alot to recover the lost neurons and repair the neurotoxicity i did to my brain over the years.
Long term MDMA abuse will make whatever depression you have now into pure torture down the road. First come the brain zaps, the inability to concertate a total lack of ability to feel happiness without the drug and your memory will become a total blur.
If your going to microdose something go with LSD or mushrooms they will help you and repair and grow new neurons.
MDMA self therapy use a blindfold take your dosage and delve deep and use the love to heal your trauma, but this is not something you can use that often without negative side effects.
If you truly seek healing, I have completely cured my PTSD with LSD and ketamine, I have seen this combo also cure others of meth addiction and PTSD aswell.
Or mixing ketamine and mushrooms.
MDMA can def feel healing, but its not good for your brain long term. Ketamine used wisely should heal alot of your mental health before the bladder issues even become a thing.
SpiralusSancti
Bluelighter
alpha-methyltryptamine is a substance that was used as antidepressant in SSSR. I never tried it in a such a way (daily doses, of, I think, 5mg) but experiences I had with it (few times with much higher doses), made me rank it as a far superior drug than MDMA. It may not have in your face euphoria like MDMA but in every other aspect (if you are ok with more psychedelic effects) it’s better. Only ocassion I can see MDMA as better choice is a rave and, but only maybe and by slight, for use with unknown therapeut or for bonding with someone new.
Section813
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I thought I remembered seeing it on The Hive in the early oughts. That was the first time I'd ever seen it mentioned. It exploded in popularity some years later of course. I still think methylone is superior. Wish that hadn't of disappeared.
Now, consider why I chose to put the S & O in their respective places and chose the primary and not the secondary amine. You might need to use ChemSpider, PubCHem and PiHKAL to see why those choices were made.
Also, what will the metabolic products be?
People like designing stuff, few seem to care how the body will deal with them.
Like 4MMC - the p-Me would make it am MAOI but the beta-ketone means it's not an MAO ligand.... the methylanine was chosen because it will directly add to a secondary -Br in a facile manner. It's solubility characteristics makes the product easy to isolate AND the p-Me is ALSO a sacficicial moiety. Over 90% of 4MMC undergoes hydroxylation and then further oxidation of that 4-methyl.... so it's metabolism is easy to guess and easy to check.
BTW it was a Russian guy in Hyperlab who first mafe 4MMC simply because he only had the precursors (and pre-precursors) for that SPECIFIC compound. I've met dozens of people who claimed to have invented it... and it's even in an early patent but the first person to recognize it as a club drug is an unnamed Russian.
simstim
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You don't contribute 4-mmc to kinetic from the hive??
Now, consider why I chose to put the S & O in their respective places and chose the primary and not the secondary amine. You might need to use ChemSpider, PubCHem and PiHKAL to see why those choices were made.
Also, what will the metabolic products be?
People like designing stuff, few seem to care how the body will deal with them.
Like 4MMC - the p-Me would make it am MAOI but the beta-ketone means it's not an MAO ligand.... the methylanine was chosen because it will directly add to a secondary -Br in a facile manner. It's solubility characteristics makes the product easy to isolate AND the p-Me is ALSO a sacficicial moiety. Over 90% of 4MMC undergoes hydroxylation and then further oxidation of that 4-methyl.... so it's metabolism is easy to guess and easy to check.
BTW it was a Russian guy in Hyperlab who first mafe 4MMC simply because he only had the precursors (and pre-precursors) for that SPECIFIC compound. I've met dozens of people who claimed to have invented it... and it's even in an early patent but the first person to recognize it as a club drug is an unnamed Russian.
AlsoTapered
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No - it was first made as a reference standard in 2016/ I think it's interesting, but just look at the synthesis. Crazy completists might DREAM of tasting it, but I wouldn't be overly confident because when that methylene bridge breaks, you have a nucleophilic moiety hanging around doing nobody any good.
I just posted it because it LOOKS so inviting.... like some mushrooms.
ĐmantuNJofra
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This is also being done maybe once a month I remember I red somewhere then it is micro dosing shrooms or lsd in the meantime and once also for the treatment resistant depression or PTSD as ketamine which I can advocate that helps with lowering neurotoxicity or just something with tolerance I think at least:
The 1st. example: 2106 I was foolishly going nuts with xtc thinking that is my red bull and love for the next two weeks then I will stop well I stopped earlier but with much higher dosages had huge zaps just before I would fall a sleep zzz frickin torture for couple days which was continued with months lasting depression and my long term memory never suffers but at work I was a lot like I was stoned in terms of short or RAM working memory incapacitated which was frustrating and then psychs gave me Venlafaxine and xanax which didn't help as latter is worst on memory because anxiety also went high that time as consequence of frustration.
2cn time: Mdma mini(40-60mg)(once a week) not micro as that was nothing but irritable + bananas + high grams of vit c liposomal or ascorbic + Nac + eggs +magnesium and last and I think it's working because of Ketamine( one small dose at night) with Kratom 2 bags of Green Malay kicked Subutex and with F-Phenibut kicked benzos so I stayed on pregabalin which is easier to maintain after one session of almost Baclofen but it is not, Baclofen do nothing or just faint, but also F-phenibut has its own side effects like bloating or redness fingers like Michelle Yeoh (hot dogs),
LoOk I don't recommend this to anyone without doctor supervision I am feeling ok as normal 2hrs small peak then couple grams of vit c and Ketamine at night and I feel finally like a person with feelings but that's also because of kicking Subutex which was maybe not that hard for me as I never touched any other Opioid (Kratom is like Guarana for me) but sure it helped and now i stopped for a month maybe less will see I sleep normal, wake up normal only have headaches and pains in general due to kicking buprenorphine( have some german ibuprofen and it's funny like how better they are in same active ingridient)
Stay safe
This is just subjective and being done without dr. supervision and I don't recommend that to anyone and well if you do read between the lines
Didgital
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I've been told that the founder of dance safe mircodoses MDMA every day.
I dont think it's a good idea to do so frequently, but I will say I have actually had great success in micro (or mini maybe) doses of MDA.
I dont think it's a good idea to do so frequently, but I will say I have actually had great success in micro (or mini maybe) doses of MDA.
who is that founder?
you mean you had success in micro dosing MDMA or MDA? what's MDA?
foodcrisis
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my friend got me to try mda saying it was like mdma but it made you get visuals. i found what he said to be true when i took it. i don't know if i ever got really good mdma to compare it to, but the mda i got was a lot better experience than the mdma.
ĐmantuNJofra
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To the Op and to everyone who battles PAWS from buprenorphine and benzodiazepines, the worst
So from my last post: couple days after I stopped the Phenibut and haven't touched K and Mdma for not fucking my sert, brain homeostasis or whatever the science says.
And maybe I don't post that much but I read a lot here as from @sekio, @AlsoTapered-sorry for epilepsy blocking you trying some of the best God or human maid substances.
Well paws from those two were the worst last months so a week and a half ago I took a dose which is 130mg followed by 30mg or less every other day which is 4, 5 takes in total and with 300-450 mg pregabalin in divide doses throughout the day.
But I have a very much experience with MDMA( 7 or 8 yr. ago was fooling around to much so brain zaps and all anhedonic stuff and couple times till I grew up in terms of rec. substances), psychedelics and Ketamine which in my case helped with leveling the tolerance)
I also read PiHKAL-a chem love story!
Healthy food, Whey protein with (L-tyrosine rich and arginine, tryptophan, )beta alanine and if lucky agmatine (arginine is precursor I think)
That helped great and not eating bread like we from SouthEast EU like, I stopped it and loosed some weight and I feel good now except
because of work and other things not seeing my child is triggering some depressive thoughts I usually didn't have!
So I knew there is two ways: 1: I can't work I can't think, I'm afraid but not (irrational fears) craving something and nothing helps, I even went with light dose diazepam and found despair only)
2. I knew that MDMA in me can turn the tide and I can work and function but it is not futile in long term but let's try for a week or week and a half!
It worked now I am good I think I'm out from Paws, I have also some other things that I tried but will continue cause I have to go to work.
Concerta, DExtroamphetamine cycling not taking the same day as for dextroamph I take only 5mg 2x a day it's called Tentin 5mg.
Stay safe for now
So from my last post: couple days after I stopped the Phenibut and haven't touched K and Mdma for not fucking my sert, brain homeostasis or whatever the science says.
And maybe I don't post that much but I read a lot here as from @sekio, @AlsoTapered-sorry for epilepsy blocking you trying some of the best God or human maid substances.
Well paws from those two were the worst last months so a week and a half ago I took a dose which is 130mg followed by 30mg or less every other day which is 4, 5 takes in total and with 300-450 mg pregabalin in divide doses throughout the day.
But I have a very much experience with MDMA( 7 or 8 yr. ago was fooling around to much so brain zaps and all anhedonic stuff and couple times till I grew up in terms of rec. substances), psychedelics and Ketamine which in my case helped with leveling the tolerance)
I also read PiHKAL-a chem love story!
Healthy food, Whey protein with (L-tyrosine rich and arginine, tryptophan, )beta alanine and if lucky agmatine (arginine is precursor I think)
That helped great and not eating bread like we from SouthEast EU like, I stopped it and loosed some weight and I feel good now except
because of work and other things not seeing my child is triggering some depressive thoughts I usually didn't have!
So I knew there is two ways: 1: I can't work I can't think, I'm afraid but not (irrational fears) craving something and nothing helps, I even went with light dose diazepam and found despair only)
2. I knew that MDMA in me can turn the tide and I can work and function but it is not futile in long term but let's try for a week or week and a half!
It worked now I am good I think I'm out from Paws, I have also some other things that I tried but will continue cause I have to go to work.
Concerta, DExtroamphetamine cycling not taking the same day as for dextroamph I take only 5mg 2x a day it's called Tentin 5mg.
Stay safe for now
I have wondered if the neurogenesis we see with low doses of other Amphetamines could also translate to MDMA as well… I did try it once but wasn’t a fan of the results.
What size doses were these mini doses of MDA?
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cosmosmariner
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I took 20 mg once with a friend. We expected to feel nothing. Both of us felt something pleasant.
I’ve actually heard reports of this from friends too. And if you look at some of the old pill analysis from the 90’s there were MDA presses going around with 20-30mg in them.
I think I’m going to give this a try myself one day. Any other notes on the experience? It would be nice to have a light roll experience that isn’t from 5-MAPB. Cuz MDA is much more easily available.
-GC
AlsoTapered
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I should add that MDAR may well have 5HT2b affinity and so it's not something one should take too frequently but it IS significantly more potent than MDA and longer acting. The effects are midway between MDA and MDMA and really is nice. We were going to call it 'Euphoria' but the 5HT2b issue stopped it becoming an RC.
We dumped a lot of stuff. AH-7921 was dropped for U-47700, MT-45 and a few other opioids were dropped because they lacked euphoria and/or the TI just wasn't high enough.
Sometimes the lab had stocked up on a precursor so when a BETTER analogue was discovered, they refused to make it or their precursor (200l of piperidine in this case) would be wasted. Isophenidine snorted is way, way better than diphenidine and 2-methoxyphenidine (and the latter was a killer - I had NOTHING to do with that one).
We dumped a lot of stuff. AH-7921 was dropped for U-47700, MT-45 and a few other opioids were dropped because they lacked euphoria and/or the TI just wasn't high enough.
Sometimes the lab had stocked up on a precursor so when a BETTER analogue was discovered, they refused to make it or their precursor (200l of piperidine in this case) would be wasted. Isophenidine snorted is way, way better than diphenidine and 2-methoxyphenidine (and the latter was a killer - I had NOTHING to do with that one).