sunday.bird
Bluelighter
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- Mar 11, 2023
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arrall said:My viewpoint is that a man sticking his dick into a woman's vagina is heterosexual, yes.
I'm not going to debate if these vaginas look a bit different or not, I can't say that I've spent time studying photos of them to have any knowledge on that front.
But even if a woman's vagina suddenly looks a little different, does that make it not straight to have sex with it?
What if it is an intersex person who was then assigned female at birth and chose to identify that way?
If the vagina *looks* slightly different to you, is it suddenly gay for you to stick your dick in it by your standards?
I really don't understand where or why you are drawing this line.
You seem very set on it being about biological sex rather than gender, or even genitalia - "maybe that's not gay?".
But you aren't really explaining why.
What is a woman's vagina?
I suggested we separate trans penis and penis, minutes ago, in an earlier post. As I write this, you haven't had a chance to respond yet I don't think.
Surely a woman's vagina is the same thing as a trans penis. Otherwise: why not just say vagina?
If it doesn't look like a vagina or function like a vagina (extra points if I literally know it isn't a vagina): it's not a vagina.
If I go to a Mexican restaurant and they serve me a burger I'm not going to accept that it's just an unusual taco.
So you do concede that some trans people can look identical to cis people, which was my point here.
Never said otherwise.
Your point - it seemed - was to suggest (by showing very selective images of the few cases of people not only transitioning into someone that passes but also transitioning into someone truly stunning) that straight men must logically find trans women attractive. You said, "I present exhibit A. The trans woman..." and showed some professionally shot airbrushed shots of young models with perfect skin who've had a hundred thousand dollars worth of surgery.
Some trans women are fucking stunning. Most of them are not. This makes sense when they're competing against 51% of the population being natural women who don't need hormones or multiple surgeries to pass as convincingly female... and doubly so when you consider that human males are specially trained in identifying differences between men and women. There is no other creature on the planet better at this than us. It's very hard for guys with most body types to pass if they transition later in life. The majority of trans women, by middle age, look pretty fucking awful. That's one of the reasons they justify doing it early. Each generation will look better and better until eventually you won't be able to tell the difference. They'll also perfect fact genitals.
In that future technology scenario, would it be gay to have sex with someone that appears 100% to be a woman and has a fully working vagina?
No. Almost certainly not.
I don't really care.
Too many questions.