Alcohol Does drinking bud light make you a homosexual? A thread

[Juicewrldfan]

It is being shady, but really they are taking advantage of the boycotters if you want to specify that. The marginalized groups kinda benefit.

Personally, I think both groups are being used.

To be more specific, I think it does benefit sometimes for more awareness but at the same time I think it also hurts the cause. This is all speculation but I think that some people that maybe would open up more to being accepting are pushed harder into not being accepting by seeing the manipulation and people tend to rebel when they feel manipulated or like people are pushing their views on them. I’m not saying that views are being pushed on them but I am saying some people definitely feel like that by companies grand standing like this imo.

And it gets these types that may not care for it to turn more radically against it. Honestly, I think it hurts some of the marginalized population quite literally because even though it’s definitely wrong to not be accepting of people the ones that weren’t so radicalized are now being radicalized. Again this is all just speculation.

And I’m sure it helps some people become more accepting too but those people could become more accepting without it being so aggressive. For example, some people were putting it out there that if you won’t date a trans woman then you against trans people. And I know that’s not true but I guess that has little do do with what we are talking about here so much.

I’ve seen some very sexy trans women but I wouldn’t have a serious relationship with them if I wanted to have biological kids the same way I wouldn’t of a woman couldn’t have kids.
And yeah they are using both populations by playing off their emotions. Just like the government does. Go figure the ceo was in the CIA…

 

[deficiT]

Are they really making a statement that is benefiting marginalized groups tho? Or are they just using marginalized groups to try to make a profit?

Yeah to be marginalized a group must be relegated to the shadows, ie. The closet, like trans and gay people have been for the longest time. As well as proportionally prevalent victims of violence. So when a beer can says, "hey it's ok to be trans" or whatever, yes it does help marginalized groups.

The fact this triggers you is all the proof we need that you'd prefer these outlier groups remain in the shadows, your comment regarding "using" them appears to just be a feint.

Most ppl just want the gays and trans to shut up and go away, so yeah, having representation is good because it confronts that issue and makes people squirm that deserve to squirm.

 

[deficiT]

Not denying that American Corporations co opt all sorts of progressive movements like this to capitalize on them, bear in mind. These ideas are not mutually exclusive, it can be both.

 

[deficiT]

the main problem is they're trying to make trans-sexuality and gender-bending culture, more mainstream, when in reality, it's never really been mainstream, and some ppl are just repulsed by it and you're not going to change their minds by trying to jam it down their throats

and that's just the way it is

I'd rather have trans politics jammed down my throat than the typical American Imperialist Exceptionalist drivel that is most commonplace.

But you can't have a problem with that or you're an anti American or whatever nonsense. Last I checked the constant warring and faux patriotism has a higher body count.

 

[deficiT]

To be more specific, I think it does benefit sometimes for more awareness but at the same time I think it also hurts the cause. This is all speculation but I think that some people that maybe would open up more to being accepting are pushed harder into not being accepting by seeing the manipulation and people tend to rebel when they feel manipulated or like people are pushing their views on them

If your perception of reality is totally governed by what is advertised, popular, discussed, or debated, you simply can't call yourself a free thinker.

 

[Juicewrldfan]

If your perception of reality is totally governed by what is advertised, popular, discussed, or debated, you simply can't call yourself a free thinker.

It’s not governing my thinking. I’m not talking about me when I was describing that. I find some trans women very attractive. I have zero issue with transpeople or homosexuals.

I am saying that they do influence people. That’s clear in so many things. That is reality.

 

[deficiT]

It’s not governing my thinking. I’m not talking about me when I was describing that. I find some trans women very attractive. I have zero issue with transpeople or homosexuals.

I am saying that they do influence people. That’s clear in so many things. That is reality.

I am speaking generally and don't pretend to understand the totality of your beliefs. But this idea that people are railing against trans people because it's being "shoved down their throats" is just a convenient way to say "trans people make me uncomfortable and I wish they weren't represented publicly"

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i don't agree with trans-people benefiting from the over-exposure nowadays - i think they're causing more resistance by not leaving it alone and pushing the envelope by constantly sticking it everybody elses face

and that's why you're hearing about more resistance than ever before

 

[Juicewrldfan]

i don't agree with trans-people benefiting from the over-exposure nowadays - i think they're causing more resistance by not leaving it alone and pushing the envelope by constantly sticking it everybody elses face

and that's why you're hearing about more resistance than ever before

That’s kinda what I was saying too I think. People that normally wouldn’t care even, indifferent, become annoyed and them they associate that annoyance with that group and it does create some type of bias. How much bias? Idk…

But that’s just how humans are. I’m not excusing discrimination in anyway. I am just saying explaining that every human has some type of bias and what we associate with things influences that bias. There’s good bias and bad bias. Hence some groups buying more bud light because they associate it with good and some groups boycotting it because some are just annoyed and some are just strait up against those groups so bad bias

 

[deficiT]

i don't agree with trans-people benefiting from the over-exposure nowadays - i think they're causing more resistance by not leaving it alone and pushing the envelope by constantly sticking it everybody elses face

and that's why you're hearing about more resistance than ever before

No one's sticking anything in your face. It's just left the closet. The only people we're hearing resistance from are from people that think it should all be back in the closet, that's my point.

Like I have a hard time thinking of anything in popular socio or economic politics being talked about that I'm like "man I wish they'd just stop talking about this". What makes trans shit any different? Are we really that weak that trans people existing openly has affected our lives so?

It just makes people uncomfortable that's all it is, all there is to it, and there's no sense in making all these excuses about it.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

I am speaking generally and don't pretend to understand the totality of your beliefs. But this idea that people are railing against trans people because it's being "shoved down their throats" is just a convenient way to say "trans people make me uncomfortable and I wish they weren't represented publicly"

it's just the truth of the matter

 

[deficiT]

Report says at least 32 transgender people were killed in the U.S. in 2022

An LGBTQ advocacy group says at least 32 transgender and gender-nonconforming people have been killed in the United States in 2022. The Human Rights Campaign announced the figure in its annual report ahead of this weekend's Transgender Day of Remembrance.

www.pbs.org

2021 is now the deadliest year on record for transgender people

This year has shattered the record of transgender homicides in a year with 45 to date — most of them Black or Latinx.

www.pbs.org

Trans murders (at least the counted ones) have dropped from '21 to '22 in USA. Are we gonna go head and just victim blame and say it's their fault for existing as opposed to the bigots that murder them?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

No one's sticking anything in your face. It's just left the closet. The only people we're hearing resistance from are from people that think it should all be back in the closet, that's my point.

Like I have a hard time thinking of anything in popular socio or economic politics being talked about that I'm like "man I wish they'd just stop talking about this". What makes trans shit any different? Are we really that weak that trans people existing openly has affected our lives so?

It just makes people uncomfortable that's all it is, all there is to it, and there's no sense in making all these excuses about it.

you're simply not gonna change anybody else's mind by continuing to shove it down peoples throats

that's just the facts whether you agree with it or not

 

[deficiT]

it's just the truth of the matter

Well at least you're honest about it

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Well at least you're honest about it

me?

i don't care - im totally fine with it

im just speaking subjectively and you're all uptight thinking i have some sorta personal view

well i don't - because they don't bother me even in the slightest


so you need to step back and think before you point the finger at me

 

[deficiT]

you're simply not gonna change anybody else's mind by continuing to shove it down peoples throats

that's just the facts whether you agree with it or not

Did you ever consider that no one gives a shit what each person that hold trans biases thinks in this country? That's not the point. The point is that they exist openly and we have to deal with it now. We can bitch and cry about it or just move forward and have a positive attitude towards people that have been spat upon by every institution in this country for decades.

I know what side of history I'm standing on.

 

[deficiT]

me?

i don't care - im totally fine with it

im just speaking subjectively and you're all uptight thinking i have some sorta personal view

well i don't - because they don't bother me even in the slightest


so you need to step back and think before you point the finger at me

I'm not pointing my fingers at you I'm speaking generally.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

it's just the way it is

and you can't make people think differently if they dont want to

 

[ions]

I have no problem with what your showing. Natural looks better imho.
It's the gender mutilation surgery that I disagree with.

 

[Fire&Water]

Its New Coke
people will rant & rave bitch & moan
In the end theyll capitalize off it just like Coke Classic