Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

[prinzfrost]

If you want to contact lawyers maybe speak in shorter statements, if you just ramble like that there’s no way they’ll remember everything you said.

I am not rambling--this is highly insulting and you have no evidence for this. My extensive writing resume and accomplishments would contradict your contentions. How do I have vast highly lauded writing and intelligence testing proof of my writing and verbal ability? Somebody who rambles would not have such accomplishments. It is highly insulting that I have done all this work and intelligently discussed these complex matters at length and rather than thanking me for helping everyone, including yourselves, you insult me without any evidence.

Lawyers are supposed to intelligent and consider full details, all crimes committed, all considerations and so forth. They are supposed to have the capacity and the morals to listen to all these matters and remember them. The public are, as well. If they are lacking in intelligence, that's another matter, but to say I am rambling is categorically false and extremely offensive.

 

[Merek]

Im having panick attacks, how long till I improve I need help

We can’t give you a timeline as everybody reacts and processes these drugs differently just know that it’s temporary and that with time it will pass brighter days are on the other side just hang in there, for the time being exercise and hot showers or baths can help calm down panic attacks.

 

[roofmaan1]

I’ve been off APS for almost 7.5 months now, I’m feeling pretty alright lately been up and down it’s a different feeling but I don’t think recovery is feeling exactly the way you felt before the injections, time changes you and injections or not you’re not gonna be the exact same person you were a year ago at this point I feel like I can live a good quality life again I would call that recovery in my opinion, I do still suffer from mild anhedonia and depression but I don’t think invega is entirely to blame at this point, I recently decided to give up my addictions to porn, cigs, and weed for good and so far I’ve gone 2 weeks without all of them, withdrawals have been kicking my ass I’ve been irritated and a little depressed but I’m still being productive and getting shit done which on invega I couldn’t do that at all I just sat there like a vegetable.

same I have a problem with porn too I wrote down all my goal I need to achieve on a little note pad

 

[Nurse Ratched]

Why do you feel this way? Cite some of my writing and arguments to support your claim. Everything I say is reasonable and supported by overwhelming and often irrefutable evidence. I am concerned, rightly, about the full course of science, medicine, wrongdoing, injustice, the law, societal conditions, etc.

What you say is highly inflammatory and defamatory, especially since you cite no evidence. I, for instance, am familiar with psychiatric disorders, symptoms and behavior. Your claim is not justified by actual mental health principles and rules. I am not a "whack job" and I do not need to be "medicated" "just by the way" I write. If you think so, then tie this to specific, canonical, clinical, well-known examples of psychiatric behaviors and symptoms, and then also reference rules and regulations about medicating someone with psychiatric medications. Otherwise, your contention is uneducated, incorrect, unbelievably disrespectful, cruel, dangerous and defamatory and you don't even bother to provide evidence. What moral precepts have I violated? What principles or standards of writing have I violated?

I know you mean well and I know you feel like you were harmed greatly by different medicines but this isn't really the right place to post this stuff. Trying to get other BL'ers to join a class action suit that you want to present to the Court and receive damages is better suited for an actual Invega forum. The people that post here are part of a very close and tight knit group and they are trying to RECOVER. They help each other daily to overcome their symptoms and eventually lead a good productive life.

I suggest going to a forum that deals strictly with Invega as this thread is only a very small part of BL and only has maybe 15 or so active members and I don't think any of them are interested in joining your cause. If they are they will message you. But posting these long winded comments and speaking about rape and sexual assault falsely is not cool. You believe your therapists raped you because they gave you the medicine. Rape is a very technical word and unless you were physically violated sexually I thnk your posts are way out of line.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

I am not rambling--this is highly insulting and you have no evidence for this. My extensive writing resume and accomplishments would contradict your contentions. How do I have vast highly lauded writing and intelligence testing proof of my writing and verbal ability? Somebody who rambles would not have such accomplishments. It is highly insulting that I have done all this work and intelligently discussed these complex matters at length and rather than thanking me for helping everyone, including yourselves, you insult me without any evidence.

Lawyers are supposed to intelligent and consider full details, all crimes committed, all considerations and so forth. They are supposed to have the capacity and the morals to listen to all these matters and remember them. The public are, as well. If they are lacking in intelligence, that's another matter, but to say I am rambling is categorically false and extremely offensive.

Ok for one your rant about antipsychotics being “rape” is pretty crazy. If I were your mother and you were flipping on me carrying on and acting crazy I’d probably say you needed to be medicated too. Just by your writing!!! You sound nuts man! Try hiring a lawyer, if abilify gave you severe breathing problems I’m sure you have a case….unfortunately there’s not going to be any justice for the significant weight gain as everyone who goes on APs suffers from weight gain and this side effect along with sexual dysfunction is literally plastered all over the internet! It’s everywhere! The side effects of antipsychotics are everywhere and some of the most common ones are weight gain and sexual dysfunction.

 

[Serhat]

Please someone help me I didnt sleep last night and im scared to go to bed to wake up the next day. Its been 97 days since my injection and my symptoms arent improving, I can't relax I feel like im going to kill myself

Hey man dont worry I felt like this too, I thought I was gonna die if I slept however nothing happened, dont worry bro sleep when you get abit tired nothing will happen you'll be alright, dont worry it will get better soon and dont kill yourself dude never think about that okay

 

[prinzfrost]

^ @prinzfrost using anti depressants is probably one of the worst things you can do to counteract invega they are neurotoxic, just cause they’re socially acceptable and legal doesn’t mean they’re good the pharmaceutical guys are just like drug dealers they will talk their drugs up and make them sound good to make money off you these are the same guys who say invega is good.

I know that now but was not aware of it most of the time I was taking them.

I know you mean well and I know you feel like you were harmed greatly by different medicines but this isn't really the right place to post this stuff. Trying to get other BL'ers to join a class action suit that you want to present to the Court and receive damages is better suited for an actual Invega forum. The people that post here are part of a very close and tight knit group and they are trying to RECOVER. They help each other daily to overcome their symptoms and eventually lead a good productive life.

I suggest going to a forum that deals strictly with Invega as this thread is only a very small part of BL and only has maybe 15 or so active members and I don't think any of them are interested in joining your cause. If they are they will message you. But posting these long winded comments and speaking about rape and sexual assault falsely is not cool. You believe your therapists raped you because they gave you the medicine. Rape is a very technical word and unless you were physically violated sexually I thnk your posts are way out of line.

Perhaps you know where these "actual Invega forums" can be found? If anyone knows, share links, because I have not found them anywhere! This forum is the lone oasis on the internet--this is the "actual Invega forum" you speak of--this is the leader in the world, unless anyone can dispute this with a specific other website/forum.

Everything I discuss is related to "recovery," in some way or another, and I basically discuss the direct matter of recovery and treatments/cures all the time. It is highly appropriate to discuss the dangers of this medication that caused all of these individuals the need to "recover" in the first place. Everything I say is highly appropriate to this forum, it is titanically relevant to the goals and purposes of these threads and the victims in these threads.

There aren't any other forums that I know of that discuss any of all the matters that I speak of--if anyone knows of any, please post them here. As should be clear from my posts, I have for many months been taking all avenues of recourse and outlets for discussion of this matter with the public, news media, professions, business people, government agencies, government branches, medicine, experts and so on.

Everything I say is just as relevant, if not far more, to heping others "daily to overcome their symptoms and eventually lead a good productive life."

I already have been messaged by a BL'er interested in "joining the cause." By the way, dismissing it as "joining your cause" is insulting and disingenuous, because what I propose is not some "fringe" cause but standard measures of recourse for such problems, that should be pursued by everyone without me even mentioning it!

I already spoke with a sexual assault counselor and she agreed what happened to me and has happened to many of you constitutes clear sexual assault and I hope to get hundreds and thousands that would concur, as well as torture and legal experts that would concur with this and other contentions.

I have made extended legal arguments about why it is clear sexual assault and even rape. Not one of you critics have disproved me or attempted to do so with any evidence, discussion of law, professional opinions and so forth. I am not speaking about it falsely, and what I am saying is not "uncool" but I am the most truthful and coolest person possible and I am fighting against the most vicious falsehoods and uncool awful things possible.

My sexual injury is proof that I was "physically violated sexually." This sexual injury is not possible without continuous interactions of paliperidone (and antipsychotics) upon the human sexual system and organs, which have no possibility of sexual pleasure or sexual health purposes, and which most victims not only obviously did not consent to but were completely unaware of, since doctors and psychiatrists do not disclose these effects of these antipsychotics when they absolutely must! There is no reliable way to avoid such nonconsensual, deceptive, awful, dangerous sex organ interaction and sexual injury besides never using the antipsychotics! I have discussed these points many times. Therapeutic benefit and "intentions" of the doctors do not effect the injuriousness of the antipsychotics whatsoever--there is no way to separate legitimate, lawful and beneficial use from nefarious, injurious and harmful administration. As my and the experience of others confirms, antipsychotics can cause their injuries at any time--immediately and at every increment afterward!

 

[Merek]

same I have a problem with porn too I wrote down all my goal I need to achieve on a little note pad

What are you gonna do to help yourself quit porn?

 

[Serhat]

Im having panick attacks, how long till I improve I need help

If you're having a panic attack, take a hot shower and relax take a walk at the park or something but if its too much call the ambulance

 

[prinzfrost]

Ok for one your rant about antipsychotics being “rape” is pretty crazy. If I were your mother and you were flipping on me carrying on and acting crazy I’d probably say you needed to be medicated too. Just by your writing!!! You sound nuts man! Try hiring a lawyer, if abilify gave you severe breathing problems I’m sure you have a case….unfortunately there’s not going to be any justice for the significant weight gain as everyone who goes on APs suffers from weight gain and this side effect along with sexual dysfunction is literally plastered all over the internet! It’s everywhere! The side effects of antipsychotics are everywhere and some of the most common ones are weight gain and sexual dysfunction.

I address the "rape" matter in my response to Kaatrina and continually do so. My claims are supported by sound arguments and legal principles and a sexual assault counselor I spoke to agreed that sexual assault has without a doubt occurred to all of us who have suffered these severe sexual side effects.

Again, I asked you to cite some evidence and passages of my writing as proof of your very inflammatory and defamatory interpretations of my writing and also reference moral precepts, precepts of writing and rules of psychiatric diagnoses, regulations on medicating with psychiatric medications and specific, known, canonical examples of psychiatric symptoms and behavior you seem to be alluding to vaguely.

It is highly insulting claiming that I "rant" (my discussion of antispychotics as sexual assault was the opposite of a rant) and that I "needed to be medicated" and that I "sound nuts man!" This is not true and is disrespectful and ungrateful for the extremely capable, hard work and service I have provided humanity and all relevant victims. Please consider what you write more carefully and if you are going to criticize people, at least have some evidence to support your critiques.

Permanent, incurable, untreatable weight gain is not well-known of or acknowledged anywhere. This is far different from mere warnings about weight gain, which are often implied to be easily reversible, treatable, curable and mild. The same goes for the sexual dysfunction--the long-term and sometimes permanent, incurable, untreatable variety is not oft discusssed, well-known or acknowledged, and certainly not by any mental health organizations and psychiatrists that I know of. Again, in my previous posts responding to Kaatrina, I addressed how this supposed "widespread" information and warning, which actually is quite deficient in many ways and contradicted very often, is still not a valid excuse against the rightful claims of victims!

At the same time these side effects are acknowledged, many mental health organizations and materials downplay or entirely omit these dangers and psychiatrists en masse do not disclose these risks and I can share with you a list of about 40 links to well-known mental health organizations that are guilty of doing this.

These attacks on me and the content and evidence of my arguments are so vicious, I have to wonder if you, Kaatrina and perhaps one or two others actually work for the pharmaceutical companies and work in mental health! Anyone who was an actual victim of these drugs and the harms of our mental health system would not be so callous and malicious as to ignore the suffering, the wrongdoing and the crimes that have occurred and attack an honest, comprehensive and intelligent attempt to address these matters, like I have done, with such viciousness, such disingenuousness, such callousness, such lack of evidence and such hysteria. Some people seem to be lacking a moral compass!

 

[apsucks]

Im having panick attacks, how long till I improve I need help

Buy hhc vape pens its legal just take small amount

 

[apsucks]

Im having panick attacks, how long till I improve I need help

Go to your GP and ask for benzo's ...you can take them for four weeks before developing tolerance

 

[Nurse Ratched]

I know that now but was not aware of it most of the time I was taking them.


Perhaps you know where these "actual Invega forums" can be found? If anyone knows, share links, because I have not found them anywhere! This forum is the lone oasis on the internet--this is the "actual Invega forum" you speak of--this is the leader in the world, unless anyone can dispute this with a specific other website/forum.

Everything I discuss is related to "recovery," in some way or another, and I basically discuss the direct matter of recovery and treatments/cures all the time. It is highly appropriate to discuss the dangers of this medication that caused all of these individuals the need to "recover" in the first place. Everything I say is highly appropriate to this forum, it is titanically relevant to the goals and purposes of these threads and the victims in these threads.

There aren't any other forums that I know of that discuss any of all the matters that I speak of--if anyone knows of any, please post them here. As should be clear from my posts, I have for many months been taking all avenues of recourse and outlets for discussion of this matter with the public, news media, professions, business people, government agencies, government branches, medicine, experts and so on.

Everything I say is just as relevant, if not far more, to heping others "daily to overcome their symptoms and eventually lead a good productive life."

I already have been messaged by a BL'er interested in "joining the cause." By the way, dismissing it as "joining your cause" is insulting and disingenuous, because what I propose is not some "fringe" cause but standard measures of recourse for such problems, that should be pursued by everyone without me even mentioning it!

I already spoke with a sexual assault counselor and she agreed what happened to me and has happened to many of you constitutes clear sexual assault and I hope to get hundreds and thousands that would concur, as well as torture and legal experts that would concur with this and other contentions.

I have made extended legal arguments about why it is clear sexual assault and even rape. Not one of you critics have disproved me or attempted to do so with any evidence, discussion of law, professional opinions and so forth. I am not speaking about it falsely, and what I am saying is not "uncool" but I am the most truthful and coolest person possible and I am fighting against the most vicious falsehoods and uncool awful things possible.

My sexual injury is proof that I was "physically violated sexually." This sexual injury is not possible without continuous interactions of paliperidone (and antipsychotics) upon the human sexual system and organs, which have no possibility of sexual pleasure or sexual health purposes, and which most victims not only obviously did not consent to but were completely unaware of, since doctors and psychiatrists do not disclose these effects of these antipsychotics when they absolutely must! There is no reliable way to avoid such nonconsensual, deceptive, awful, dangerous sex organ interaction and sexual injury besides never using the antipsychotics! I have discussed these points many times. Therapeutic benefit and "intentions" of the doctors do not effect the injuriousness of the antipsychotics whatsoever--there is no way to separate legitimate, lawful and beneficial use from nefarious, injurious and harmful administration. As my and the experience of others confirms, antipsychotics can cause their injuries at any time--immediately and at every increment afterward!

Like I said..........while you are indeed posting good comments to help people recover you are also trying to get people to join your cause. And it is a cause. It's an attempt to get a group of people to hire lawyers and listen to what they say..........and then actually those said lawyers actually going in front of a Judge and telling the Judge that he/she wants to sue a DRUG MANUFACTURER for side effects and damages and he represents a very small percentage of the population that wants money. Ain't gonna happen. There is no incentive for any lawyer to take a case like that because he knows he won't win. And the biggest problem is going to be each and every person that wants to join a cause like that is going to have to get up in front of a jury and explain exactly WHY they got put on the medicine to begin with.

Then you have the medical profession that's gonna get up there and go into detail every behavior you have ever done. From your medical records. Not real sure anybody in here wants to disclose every bad act they ever did or how they behaved while in psychosis or any violence they may have done to someone while not in their right mind. I know I sure wouldn't want to. And everyone would have their whole life layed out for all to see and the Dr.s wouldn't talk about all the GOOD you may have done in your life....they will only concentrate on the BAD.

Some things we just have to live with whether we like it or not. Whether we think it's fair or not. Because some battles simply can't be won. Especially in the Court system.

 

[apsucks]

Over 4 months off the injection but anhedonia is worse than ever. i noticed some symptoms improve while taking pills but in order to get rid of anhedonia you really need to stop taking anti psychotics alltoger. Maybe a low dose of seroquel is the best option it doesnt target d2 receptors

 

[Merek]

Buy hhc vape pens its legal just take small amount

@loosewheelnut Ya HHC with high dose CBD should do the trick CBD is completely non addictive, HHC can be mildly addicting but the withdrawals aren’t bad at all and the good thing about HHC is it’s nowhere near as psychoactive as THC so it’s not as likely to cause psychosis however it still can in some rare cases and loosewheelnut had problems with psychosis so it would probably be best to just stick to CBD.

 

[Merek]

Over 4 months off the injection but anhedonia is worse than ever. i noticed some symptoms improve while taking pills but in order to get rid of anhedonia you really need to stop taking anti psychotics alltoger. Maybe a low dose of seroquel is the best option it doesnt target d2 receptors

If you have a say in the meds you can take for CTO maybe it wouldn’t hurt to switch APS.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

I address the "rape" matter in my response to Kaatrina and continually do so. My claims are supported by sound arguments and legal principles and a sexual assault counselor I spoke to agreed that sexual assault has without a doubt occurred to all of us who have suffered these severe sexual side effects.

Again, I asked you to cite some evidence and passages of my writing as proof of your very inflammatory and defamatory interpretations of my writing and also reference moral precepts, precepts of writing and rules of psychiatric diagnoses, regulations on medicating with psychiatric medications and specific, known, canonical examples of psychiatric symptoms and behavior you seem to be alluding to vaguely.

It is highly insulting claiming that I "rant" (my discussion of antispychotics as sexual assault was the opposite of a rant) and that I "needed to be medicated" and that I "sound nuts man!" This is not true and is disrespectful and ungrateful for the extremely capable, hard work and service I have provided humanity and all relevant victims. Please consider what you write more carefully and if you are going to criticize people, at least have some evidence to support your critiques.

Permanent, incurable, untreatable weight gain is not well-known of or acknowledged anywhere. This is far different from mere warnings about weight gain, which are often implied to be easily reversible, treatable, curable and mild. The same goes for the sexual dysfunction--the long-term and sometimes permanent, incurable, untreatable variety is not oft discusssed, well-known or acknowledged, and certainly not by any mental health organizations and psychiatrists that I know of. Again, in my previous posts responding to Kaatrina, I addressed how this supposed "widespread" information and warning, which actually is quite deficient in many ways and contradicted very often, is still not a valid excuse against the rightful claims of victims!

At the same time these side effects are acknowledged, many mental health organizations and materials downplay or entirely omit these dangers and psychiatrists en masse do not disclose these risks and I can share with you a list of about 40 links to well-known mental health organizations that are guilty of doing this.

These attacks on me and the content and evidence of my arguments are so vicious, I have to wonder if you, Kaatrina and perhaps one or two others actually work for the pharmaceutical companies and work in mental health! Anyone who was an actual victim of these drugs and the harms of our mental health system would not be so callous and malicious as to ignore the suffering, the wrongdoing and the crimes that have occurred and attack an honest, comprehensive and intelligent attempt to address these matters, like I have done, with such viciousness, such disingenuousness, such callousness, such lack of evidence and such hysteria. Some people seem to be lacking a moral compass!

Maybe you weren’t dieting enough or exercising enough…or need to take a drug to jump start your metabolism. That happens to ppl

 

[Merek]

I address the "rape" matter in my response to Kaatrina and continually do so. My claims are supported by sound arguments and legal principles and a sexual assault counselor I spoke to agreed that sexual assault has without a doubt occurred to all of us who have suffered these severe sexual side effects.

Again, I asked you to cite some evidence and passages of my writing as proof of your very inflammatory and defamatory interpretations of my writing and also reference moral precepts, precepts of writing and rules of psychiatric diagnoses, regulations on medicating with psychiatric medications and specific, known, canonical examples of psychiatric symptoms and behavior you seem to be alluding to vaguely.

It is highly insulting claiming that I "rant" (my discussion of antispychotics as sexual assault was the opposite of a rant) and that I "needed to be medicated" and that I "sound nuts man!" This is not true and is disrespectful and ungrateful for the extremely capable, hard work and service I have provided humanity and all relevant victims. Please consider what you write more carefully and if you are going to criticize people, at least have some evidence to support your critiques.

Permanent, incurable, untreatable weight gain is not well-known of or acknowledged anywhere. This is far different from mere warnings about weight gain, which are often implied to be easily reversible, treatable, curable and mild. The same goes for the sexual dysfunction--the long-term and sometimes permanent, incurable, untreatable variety is not oft discusssed, well-known or acknowledged, and certainly not by any mental health organizations and psychiatrists that I know of. Again, in my previous posts responding to Kaatrina, I addressed how this supposed "widespread" information and warning, which actually is quite deficient in many ways and contradicted very often, is still not a valid excuse against the rightful claims of victims!

At the same time these side effects are acknowledged, many mental health organizations and materials downplay or entirely omit these dangers and psychiatrists en masse do not disclose these risks and I can share with you a list of about 40 links to well-known mental health organizations that are guilty of doing this.

These attacks on me and the content and evidence of my arguments are so vicious, I have to wonder if you, Kaatrina and perhaps one or two others actually work for the pharmaceutical companies and work in mental health! Anyone who was an actual victim of these drugs and the harms of our mental health system would not be so callous and malicious as to ignore the suffering, the wrongdoing and the crimes that have occurred and attack an honest, comprehensive and intelligent attempt to address these matters, like I have done, with such viciousness, such disingenuousness, such callousness, such lack of evidence and such hysteria. Some people seem to be lacking a moral compass!

Being put on CTO to take injections unwillingly can be as bad if not worse then rape for sure but willingly taking anti depressants or anti psychotic pills is not like rape since you consented to it if you were to bring that up with a lawyer theyd think you’re bat shit crazy.

 

[loosewheelnut]

@loosewheelnut Ya HHC with high dose CBD should do the trick CBD is completely non addictive, HHC can be mildly addicting but the withdrawals aren’t bad at all and the good thing about HHC is it’s nowhere near as psychoactive as THC so it’s not as likely to cause psychosis however it still can in some rare cases and loosewheelnut had problems with psychosis so it would probably be best to just stick to CBD.

I already smoke weed but I can't feel it the AP is too strong

 

[Merek]

I already smoke weed but I can't feel it the AP is too strong

Maybe get sober off the cannabis that should help, weed effects you differently on APS and many members have reported getting more anxiety and paranoia from smoking weed after taking APS then before, it also increases your risk of psychosis relaspe if you quit that reduces your chances of getting injected again and probably is gonna help your anxiety and besides what’s the point of smoking if you can’t even feel it.