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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

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HelpMeInvega said:
I feel good after workouts but nothing like before not even close. I used to just glow after workouts and be so pumped I used to want more and more! Now I just can’t wait until it’s over pretty much. lol
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That's sad, I imagine it's not like before.
That's why I don't even bother coming back to the gym.
Everything after these injections is weskened or reduced significantly.
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
That's sad, I imagine it's not like before.
That's why I don't even bother coming back to the gym.
Everything after these injections is weskened or reduced significantly.
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I think the main thing is before I used to really feel endorphins and music really be into it. Now I can’t feel anything so it’s just pure garbage!
 
HelpMeInvega said:
I think the main thing is before I used to really feel endorphins and music really be into it. Now I can’t feel anything so it’s just pure garbage!
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Better just sit at home binge watching Netflix or some shit because experiencing this lack of fun, or that it suddenly hits you that nothing is the same as before is very infuriating!
If I go back to workout in the gym only to discover how weak and unmotivated I am, it can really make me depressed, I don't want that.
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
Better just sit at home binge watching Netflix or some shit because experiencing this lack of fun, or that it suddenly hits you that nothing is the same as before is very infuriating!
If I go back to workout in the gym only to discover how weak and unmotivated I am, it can really make me depressed, I don't want that.
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That’s bs, if you just sit at home binge watching Netflix that’s simply asking to not recover at all, injections or not life is gonna be miserable if you just stay at home watching tv I get if you don’t wana go to the gym rn start with a walk you gotta start somewhere with exercise, you should have a plan to get back to the gym at some point in your life, I went to the gym 2-3 months off and even on the injections I still found a slight joy in it although it didn’t feel anywhere near as good I’m very glad I did it as it benefitted me in the long run.
 
Merek said:
That’s bs, if you just sit at home binge watching Netflix that’s simply asking to not recover at all, injections or not life is gonna be miserable if you just stay at home watching tv I get if you don’t wana go to the gym rn start with a walk you gotta start somewhere with exercise, you should have a plan to get back to the gym at some point in your life, I went to the gym 2-3 months off and even on the injections I still found a slight joy in it although it didn’t feel anywhere near as good I’m very glad I did it as it benefitted me in the long run.
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It's easy for you to say with 2 shots, but that's not the case for me.
I used to be a gym fanatic, never gave up like this in my life, used to bench press 120kg full sets, and before that I used to barely lift the bar itself, that shows you how motivated and crazy I was haha. But now things have changed for worse after the injections.
If I can't feel endorphins, if my motivation is weak and my whole body is weak and my hormones are still messed up, how can I achieve the body of my dreams again?
Luckily, I do a lot of walks on my job, so that's some exercise right there, and I'll definitely go to the gym in the future, but right now, I think it's pointless. Lets see how I'll feel within 6 months from now, maybe I'll start some calisthenics first.
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
It's easy for you to say with 2 shots, but that's not the case for me.
I used to be a gym fanatic, never gave up like this in my life, used to bench press 120kg full sets, and before that I used to barely lift the bar itself, that shows you how motivated and crazy I was haha. But now things have changed for worse after the injections.
If I can't feel endorphins, if my motivation is weak and my whole body is weak and my hormones are still messed up, how can I achieve the body of my dreams again?
Luckily, I do a lot of walks on my job, so that's some exercise right there, and I'll definitely go to the gym in the future, but right now, I think it's pointless. Lets see how I'll feel within 6 months from now, maybe I'll start some calisthenics first.
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120kg for multiple reps is very impressive, in my prime my 1 rep max max was only slightly more then that, when I started I could lift the bar easy but I struggled with 38.5kg then only 2 years later I was repping 93kg on my last sets no problem, from one gym rat to another your gym career isn’t always gonna be lifting with full energy and the goal to achieve the body of your dreams there might be times in your life where you need physical therapy it’s a good spot to start nobodies gonna judge you there if you can’t lift a lot of weight most of those people have had severe injuries or other issues that kept them away from the gym for a while tell them your goals with your body and they’ll provide a good workout with lots of calisthenics the trainer there will motivate you and tell you a good time you might be able to return to the gym based on your form and progress.
 
Merek said:
120kg for multiple reps is very impressive, in my prime my 1 rep max max was only slightly more then that, when I started I could lift the bar easy but I struggled with 38.5kg then only 2 years later I was repping 93kg on my last sets no problem, from one gym rat to another your gym career isn’t always gonna be lifting with full energy and the goal to achieve the body of your dreams there might be times in your life where you need physical therapy it’s a good spot to start nobodies gonna judge you there if you can’t lift a lot of weight most of those people have had severe injuries or other issues that kept them away from the gym for a while tell them your goals with your body and they’ll provide a good workout with lots of calisthenics the trainer there will motivate you and tell you a good time you might be able to return to the gym based on your form and progress.
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When I'm fully recovered, is the only time I'll be able to get back to the gym.
I'm very good in motivating and pushing my self to work hard when necessary, but sadly, these injections broke my spirit, if you know what I mean...
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
When I'm fully recovered, is the only time I'll be able to get back to the gym.
I'm very good in motivating and pushing my self to work hard when necessary, but sadly, these injections broke my spirit, if you know what I mean...
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You don’t have to be 100% recovered to go back, I’m 80% recovered mentally but physically I’m about 85% recovered I’m lifting as much weight as I did pre injections but the tone isn’t quite there, I was lifting weight and making good progress at the beginning of month 5 when I was 60-65% recovered so once you reach that point you should be good to go back I’m telling you bro I’m very grateful I pushed my self to go earlier in my recovery when I didn’t want too I bet you’d be glad you did that too if you choose too.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
Invega does block 3/4 of adrenaline receptors while it agonises 1/4 of them, thus making some of people be in mild constant adrenaline shock.
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It’s like they want you in agony, Invega blocks GABA receptors too which makes you feel even more in shock, they claim it doesn’t at all but I’m pretty sure it does cause I took Xanax for the unbearable akathisia and it did absolutely nothing when benzos act on GABA only.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
By scientific half-life graph of invega sustena it is supposed to be fully out by month 20.
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By the time it gets to month 5-8 it there can still be trace amounts but it shouldn’t enough to have an effect on you at all, after that your brain just has to re wire it’s self from the damage done by the injections, there was someone who had trace amounts of the drug in their system 5 years after they took it but they had fully recovered long before that.
 
Merek said:
It’s like they want you in agony, Invega blocks GABA receptors too, they claim it doesn’t at all but I’m pretty sure it does cause I took Xanax for the unbearable akathisia and it did absolutely nothing when benzos act on GABA only.
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Well it does worse thing than blocking them, it deforms receptor proteins and that takes body lot of time to absorb receptor and replace it than it takes for invega to block more receptors and deform more of them, this is why the longer you are on invega more it f*cks you up.
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Paliperidone binds only to receptors it can bind - there is around 8 of them, BUT it oxidates and deforms any kind of receptors because for that it doesn't need to bind to receptors but just pass over them (or collide/hit them), consider that paliperidone molecule is quite large when it binds with base in blood (uses magnesium/calcium/sodium/potassium for base). That is why it damages sleep so badly for some people because it messes up stuff it is not supposed to mess up (like GABA). Now it wont do that for everyone because brain structure is different and paliperidone can't reach all parts of brain for some people and thus doesn't deform receptors which it shouldn't, but keep in mind all neurons have GABA receptors which they use to slow down neuron activity, but GABA receptors are most important inside CNS(central nervous system).
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There are other issues that happen except protein deforming, it can take time for body to get invega molecules out of brain (body must first disassemble invega molecules with using stuff we can get from apple cider vinegar, turmeric and lemons) and regenerate vesicles- bags where it puts neurotransmitter chemicals like dopamine. LESS bags available = less production of those neurotransmitter chemicals, which means invega user will feel emotions and feelings less often and the user will feel better at evening(after around of 10% recovery this is will start to happen, at lesser than that you can not notice it) because body works better at day and more neurotransmiiter chemicals are producted and stored in vesicles, also naturally when its evening body starts producing more of those chemicals, as the user recovers more, he/she will feel less difference between morning and evening.
 
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Merek said:
By the time it gets to month 5-8 it there can still be trace amounts but it shouldn’t enough to have an effect on you at all, after that your brain just has to re wire it’s self from the damage done by the injections, there was someone who had trace amounts of the drug in their system 5 years after they took it but they had fully recovered long before that.
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I think the brain is fixing itself while getting rid of the poison simultaneously
 
UnluckyXeplion said:
I think the brain is fixing itself while getting rid of the poison simultaneously
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It is, but while someone is on invega, body can not keep up with it because invega is faster at blocking, deforming and damaging, and that damage and deformed proteins takes time to recover + if invega is still in muscle (and releasing to blood) it's slowing that process down. In that case it's race between body and invega, who will be "faster". Invega does gets slower but so does body because of damage which invega causes is lasting for months, but invega releases by 50% every month and body will eventually win the race.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
It is, but while someone is on invega, body can not keep up with it because invega is faster at blocking, deforming and damaging than body, and that damage and deformed proteins takes time to recover + if invega is still in muscle (and releasing to blood) it's slowing that process down. In that case it's race between body and invega, who will be faster.
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I'm glad I don't take Xeplion anymore...
The forced treatment is supposed to be over, I'm almost certain about it, but not sure yet.
 
HelpMeInvega said:
I weigh 110 lbs and have facial fat figure that out lol Invega fucked up my fat storage lol I’ll never get my skinny face back. I need liposuction of the face lol
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That's my worries too, my face is a bit bloated and looks tired and dumb af.
I get what you're saying, just wait a couple more months.
 
HelpMeInvega said:
I weigh 110 lbs and have facial fat figure that out lol Invega fucked up my fat storage lol I’ll never get my skinny face back. I need liposuction of the face lol
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Maybe your body just stored disassembled invega parts into fat and that is most likely "water based fat". It should go away. Maybe try hiking once or twice a week.
 
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