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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0
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I think this is a myth
InvegaIsdeath
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It does however give partial serotonin agonism. It's still bad medicine and considered "third generation."
Jerry Atrick
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All,Dear Bluelighters who are victims of paliperidone-caused injuries.
I am writing to ask you all to take action. What we all need is healing, help and justice. This means we must push society, medicine, science, financiers, politicians, business people and so on to help research a cure/treatment for paliperidone and antipsychotic induced depression and sexual dysfunction, as well as other incurable, untreatable, terrible, unbearably painful, long-term and sometimes permanent "side effects" aka injuries of antipsychotics that include tardive diskinesia, neuromuscular problems, central breathing problems and permanent weight gain and many others. Psychiatrists and psychologists have done virtually no research into treatments/cures for these problems and I have irrefutable proof that vast numbers of them continue to not care and refuse to do any research nor spread awareness nor take any action on these problems.
We need financial help, because our injuries have resulted in lost functionality, lost faculties, inability to work, inability to go to school, inability to take care of ourselves and dependents, inability to do basic activities and enjoy life, inability to have romantic relations, etc. We have absurd medical and non medical expenses arising from all these injuries.
We are victims of terrible crimes and injustice. There is plenty of side effects literature, doctors' testimonies, neurochemistry scientific consensus and, of course, our first hand accounts and other first accounts, that prove these injuries, especially depression and sexual dysfunction that is always severe and has no cure, no treatment, no relief whatsoever, come from antipsychotics and particularly paliperidone. I have irrefutable proof that the profession and many providers have engaged in deliberate deception and sabotage, to prevent these dangers from being known to patients beforehand and to prevent victims and the public from recognizing and taking action on these injuries. Irrefutable proof exists from lawsuits settled for hundreds of millions to billions of dollars against the pharmaceutical companies that make antispychotics, including paliperidone and Janssen. They were guilty of falsifying side effects studies and concealing the dangers of these drugs. They were guilty of illegally marketing them. Therefore, we have more reason to believe that existing side effects studies downplay the risks of these dangers, corroborated by higher rates reported by first hand accounts.
These antipsychotics are so dangerous it is not acceptable to administer them to living beings--science must find safer ones. I am not eschewing their therapeutic benefits, I am simply saying the truth that they are unacceptably dangerous.
Antipsychotics' therapeutic benefits can never be separated from their injurious effect. The supposed good intentions of mental health providers makes no difference, there is no safe way to administer these drugs except by letting them sit in the dark collecting dust never to go near living organisms. It is clear that they are tools of aggravated assault, sexual assault, rape, torture, permanent terrible incurable untreatable injury, strangulation and even murder/genocide. Everyone who experiences these injuries calls it "torture." They always interact, internally, with the human sex organs and sexual system. They do not produce such horrific, incurable, untreatable, long-term and sometimes permanent sexual injuries out of nowhere but as a result of repeated interaction with the human sex organs. Everyone who experiences these injuries feels severely violated. I have spoken with Sexual Assault experts and counselors and they agree, what has happened to us is without a doubt sexual assault if not rape, if not repeated sexual assault and rape. I argue that every single administration of these drugs is a attempted aggravated assault, attempted grievous injury, attempted sexual assault, attempted rape, attempted torture, attempted strangulation and even attempted murder and genocide. These antipsychotics cannot produce sexual pleasure, like sex toys for instance and they have no sexual health function, like a gynecological exam for instance. Given the numbers of people exposed to these antipsychotics across the world for endless decades, given the extensive proof of these injuries and given that mental health providers engage in irrefutably provable and willful deception and sabotage in regards to disclosing these risks and recognizing these injuries, they have no excuse: they know that these are unacceptably dangerous weapons and tools.
I am not against psychiatry and psychology but I am in fact the most pro psychiatry and psychology person on the earth since I am standing up for its own rules, the rules of medicine, law, truth and reason, human values and virtues, health, professionalism, business and so on. I stand up for effective and safe medicine and therapies and I stand up for what psychiatry and psychology should be but have long failed to be. I am not telling anyone to stop taking medication that provides them with irreplaceable therapy and benefits, I am merely telling us that we must fight against the dangers of dangerous medication, we must demand safer medication, we must demand justice for the crimes that have been committed against us, we must make sure the entire world acknowledges our injuries, we must get the help we deserve and we must secure the effective treatment/cure for our injuries that we deserve but thus far does not exist, owing at least to the negligence and lack of effort and even deception and sabotage of psychiatry, psychology and medicine.
In European Christianity, there has long developed what was known as just-war doctrine. This says that a person has to defend themselves when they are threatened with injury and/or death, because to fail to do so would be criminal to oneself and society. I am citing that same idea when I am asking all of you, who are victims and who know victims, to take action, instead of waiting around, sitting around doing absolutely nothing. Work on securing that treatment/cure, since none so far is known. Work on securing true justice and true help for yourselves.
Some moderators would warn against people contacting each other. Therefore, normally, I would tell each of you as individuals what you can do to secure healing, to secure justice and help. However, having done all these things myself, I can promise you that operating on your own will achieve, in all likelihood, zero success. If we are to have any chance of success, we must unite and work as a group to persuade any and everyone.
For local law firms and local government, they only respond to local constituencies and so people from afar who contact them will be ignored. However, we can still help each other by providing quotable and provable testimony that individuals within the constituency can share with their local law firms and government. When it comes to national government and national law firms and contacts of the type who do not have the ability to reject appeals from people based on the constituency excuse, we must work together.
You can DM me or see my website links in my signature for ideas on who to contact--government contacts, journalists and news media, law firms, the profession of psychology and psychiatry itself, business people, religious leaders, NGOs, psych-critical activists, etc.
Every single one of us should contact Janssen to report the problem
"1-800-526-7736 to speak to a clinical expert regarding your question or to report a possible adverse event or product quality complaint."
Every single one of us should submit a report about paliperidone to the FDA's MedWatch (if you are from the United States).
Mind Freedom International wants to hear from you and your stories, too:
[email protected]
[email protected]
Dr. David Healy, a Welsh psychiatrist practicing in Canada, wants to hear from all of you and your stories
Experiencing a Drug Side Effect? - RxISK
Get your free RxISK Report to find out All prescription drugs can cause side effects, but it can often be difficult to engage with your doctor when your treatment might be causing a problem. The RxISK Report takes 10 minutes to complete and provides you with a RxISK Score indicating how likely...rxisk.org
Side Effects of Antipsychotics - RxISK
Author: Dr. David Healy Last updated: 2016 For the most part, antipsychotic side effects will clearly seem like side effects. There are, however, a number of effects brought on by the drugs that may seem more like a worsening of the illness. It is important that you are able to tell the...
Every single one of us should find our state (if you are in the United States) professional licensing organization/Medical Board to make a complaint about all mental health providers who administered paliperidone to you, because they are guilty without a doubt of severe injurious medical negligence and medical malpractice, if not countless other crimes--your state should also have a means of complaining about health care facilities, aka the clinics and hospitals who employed the mental health providers who injured you.
Every single one of us should seek legal help and talk to law firms, locally who can pursue personal injury and medical malpractice cases against said mental providers and their clinics and hospitals. Every single one of us should seek legal help from national law firms in order to file a suit against the pharmaceutical companies that make these injurious antipsychotics, in our case specifically, Janssen. Especially for the national law firms, especially for a class action suit, these are contingency based and would not require any financial investment from you, only you devoting your time, energy and disclosing some mental health records and medical records. For national law firms, we can and absolutely should work together and even settle on a few or one single law firm to represent us all, in the case of the United States. In the case of any of you being victims outside the United States, you'll have to team up with co-nationals who are victims and pursue these same avenues that exist in your jurisdiction.
Every single one of us should contact our national governments, national health services, national executives and national justice departments to tell our stories en masse--remember, if we are one at a time, they will ignore us. If we flood them together, they have less ability to ignore us.
When we flood the national and international news media, someone is bound to pick up our story. When our story breaks, the government can no longer ignore us since the public will now be aware.
Every single one of us should contact our local governments--local executives, local justice departments, local lawmakers. We need to use each others testimonies (since non-constituencies cannot contact local government) and we also need to organize and unite with fellow victims in the same local jurisdiction so we have a massive voice with local government that cannot be ignored. Otherwise, believe me, they will ignore us. We need to demand that they take action, that they enforce oversight on this out of control profession, that they take action to address these dangerous drugs and that they remove any statutes of limitation and damage caps that exist for these crimes, because there should be none. These doctors have committed, as I've said, aggravated assault, sexual assault, rape, torture, grievous injury, strangulation and even in some cases murder. Typically for these crimes very long statutes of limitation exist and sometimes none at all. The same goes for damage caps. These psychiatrists, psychologists, their staff and these pharmaceutical companies need to do the maximum prison time for their crimes--there is absolutely no question. Justice must be served, the monetary compensation not only for suffering and expenses but for ability to live is needed for all of us victims.
Every single one of us should unite to contact national leaders, business people, scientists and doctors to help research a cure/treatment for antipsychotic induced injuries, including depression and sexual dysfunction. We can all flood their contact information--email, mail, Linkedin, social media, phone numbers--en masse.
We should contact our religious authorities, too--they have an absolute obligation to help us. Again, if we only talk to them one by one, they will of course ignore us. If we flood them en massse, they cannot ignore us.
I am working on gathering more contact information, rather than just email, like mailing addresses, phone numbers, Linkedin and social media links.
Thank you
This post has been undeleted and I bolded and enlarged one comment. The post that was published the day before this one was deleted by another moderator and, due to the length of the post, will remain deleted.
Still, @prinzfrost has done a lot of work out of kindness and a passion for bringing justice and accountability to the ones who have perpetrated these crimes of prescribing Paliperidone/Invega to their patients.
I recommend that any and all of you who wish to participate in this advocacy to send prinzfrost a DM so that a comprehensive contact list of these journalists, organizations, clinics, companies, and persons of influence can be sent to you directly. Please consider taking the initiative to fight for your own peace of mind and the prevention of harm to other past, present, and future victims of this criminal activity.
Thank you,
JA
InvegaIsdeath
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Thanks for letting me know. He wrote so much material I thought he was AI
I had 10 fkn shots im sure theres some kind of brain damage but i will heal from it i know its not perm
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Members here claim that THC pulls Paliperidone out of the brain.
Any research to support that?
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Would it be worth giving St Johns Wort a try?
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How about smoking weed? is THC and CBD beneficial against Paliperidone?The general function of P-glycoprotein is now known to protect the body from harmful substances by:
- Removing drugs absorbed in the intestines back into the gut lumen.
- Maintaining the integrity of the blood brain barrier.
- Removing drugs from the kidneys and liver into the urine and bile respectively.
Medicines interactions: the role of P-glycoprotein
www.medsafe.govt.nz
@InvegaIsdeath where you finding all this data from bro
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Yes it is but for other reasons, like sleep, nueroplasicity, nuerogenesis. I've got bad news for weed and p-gp and it's actually a bombshell.
Weed is still highly effective. Basically all foods inhibit pgp, there do exist pgp inducers, but those are drugs and the side effects defeat the purpose.
Curcummin is also something that keeps drugs in the body, stay away from it.
It's St John's Wort VS the world when it comes to p glycoproteins
Taken together, these results provide preliminary evidence that cannabinoids do not exacerbate P-gp mediated MDR. Further, plant-derived cannabinoids are moderately effective in reversing MDR in CEM/VLB(100) cells by decreasing P-gp expression
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A lot of the information is from the old posters of this thread, version 1-3. Then some of it is stuff I found on my own.
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I don't remember who, but someone here told me that CBD removes Paliperidone from the brain.It seems right and wrong under certain conditions.
These findings indicate that CBD significantly inhibits P-gp-mediated drug transport, suggesting CBD could potentially influence the absorption and disposition of other coadministered compounds that are P-gp substrates.
Characterization of P-glycoprotein inhibition by major cannabinoids from marijuana - PubMed
The ATP-dependent drug efflux transporter P-glycoprotein (P-gp) plays a significant role in the absorption and disposition of many compounds. The purpose of this study was to investigate the possible interaction of P-gp with each of four major marijuana constituents...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
So is it benefitial?
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If CBD removes Paliperidone from the brain for real, then it might be a good idea to smoke weed often.
I rather wait a bit before smoking again, last time I smoked it made me feel quite paranoid, something that weed never caused me before the injections, and I used to smoke a lot.
I rather wait a bit before smoking again, last time I smoked it made me feel quite paranoid, something that weed never caused me before the injections, and I used to smoke a lot.
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Its St Johns Wort that with certainty removes it, modest as it may be. It's basically one of the only pgp inducers I can find, other than some pharmaceutical drug. id reccommend taking 3-6 times for SJW what the label says, as should be done with many, not all, vitamins.
St John's Wort is an inducer, THC is an inhibitor, and CBD is a little of both, but mostly an inhibitor. Under certain conditions CBD can act as a disposition to the substrate. I dont know how that works though and can't find anything on it.
THC is good for other reasons and won't ruin St John's Worts benefits, it will only increase them, but not the pgp aspect. Plenty of foods we eat inhibit pgp so it's not a big deal.
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You are NOT a medical professional, therefore please immediately cease posting medical advice and suggestions on dosages of supplements. Doing so can have incredibly harmful effects in some people, especially those with mental disorders, which this thread mainly consists of, AND people who are taking other medications that we do not know about. Your "advice" could cause unpleasant, harmful or potentially even fatal interactions with some medications. If we see you acting as the thread's token medical advisor again you will receive an offical warning.
IM BROKE, GOT INJECTED, HAVE NO REAL MEANS. WHAT ARE CHEAPEST AND EASIEST THINGS TO HELP RECOVER
buy benadryl and tea. Doesn't have to be green tea, but black tea has least anti oxidants. So go with white,green, or herbal teas.
(Note to moderators. Music is allowed in the thread, it is accompanied with data related to invega. )
You are on thin ice @InvegaIsdeath. You have been asked to refrain from posting videos yet you have done so AGAIN, purely to taunt the moderators, it would seem. This kind of behaviour does not bode well. Once again, if we see you intentially going against the requests of the moderators again, you will receive an official warning.
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If smoking weed post-paliperidone made you feel paranoid, it's probably best not to do it again for a while at very least.
I too was a bit confused about the whole CBD vs THC being better for paliperidone recovery, from what someone posted on here it looked like the research shows that it's actually THC that is better for recovery. But I personally still would not recommend it.
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Time-Out (2 day ban) for repeatedly spamming the Invega thread with inane posts, and insulting the female moderators
My video was called codeine dreaming....the lyrics and vibe directly related to the invega experience. Its called art/meming. Sorry the mods are so damn boring.
You don't need to be a medical professional to reccommend st johns wort dosages. They are called food supplements, meaning it's no different than telling someone how much tea to drink.
You may disagree on personal opinion, but that argument is ironclad. The things I recommended are FOOD SUUPLEMENTS, tea, tart cherry extract, st johns wort.
You literally don't need to be a medical professional to write a cook book.
I'd also like evidence how a multivitamin, st johns wort, or ANYTHING I recommended would have adverse reactions to mentally ill people... over NON mentally ill people like mentally ill people process vitamins differently.
the women running this thread are DUMB
So apparently schizophrenic react to green tea differently? SSRISs are OK, but 5HTP isn't?
the moderation is ran by left wing female opinion and overreaction. Soft mods making a soft thread about masterbaition and treating invega like a funny game.
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