Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

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Dear Bluelighters who are victims of paliperidone-caused injuries.

I am writing to ask you all to take action. What we all need is healing, help and justice. This means we must push society, medicine, science, financiers, politicians, business people and so on to help research a cure/treatment for paliperidone and antipsychotic induced depression and sexual dysfunction, as well as other incurable, untreatable, terrible, unbearably painful, long-term and sometimes permanent "side effects" aka injuries of antipsychotics that include tardive diskinesia, neuromuscular problems, central breathing problems and permanent weight gain and many others. Psychiatrists and psychologists have done virtually no research into treatments/cures for these problems and I have irrefutable proof that vast numbers of them continue to not care and refuse to do any research nor spread awareness nor take any action on these problems.

We need financial help, because our injuries have resulted in lost functionality, lost faculties, inability to work, inability to go to school, inability to take care of ourselves and dependents, inability to do basic activities and enjoy life, inability to have romantic relations, etc. We have absurd medical and non medical expenses arising from all these injuries.

We are victims of terrible crimes and injustice. There is plenty of side effects literature, doctors' testimonies, neurochemistry scientific consensus and, of course, our first hand accounts and other first accounts, that prove these injuries, especially depression and sexual dysfunction that is always severe and has no cure, no treatment, no relief whatsoever, come from antipsychotics and particularly paliperidone. I have irrefutable proof that the profession and many providers have engaged in deliberate deception and sabotage, to prevent these dangers from being known to patients beforehand and to prevent victims and the public from recognizing and taking action on these injuries. Irrefutable proof exists from lawsuits settled for hundreds of millions to billions of dollars against the pharmaceutical companies that make antispychotics, including paliperidone and Janssen. They were guilty of falsifying side effects studies and concealing the dangers of these drugs. They were guilty of illegally marketing them. Therefore, we have more reason to believe that existing side effects studies downplay the risks of these dangers, corroborated by higher rates reported by first hand accounts.

These antipsychotics are so dangerous it is not acceptable to administer them to living beings--science must find safer ones. I am not eschewing their therapeutic benefits, I am simply saying the truth that they are unacceptably dangerous.

Antipsychotics' therapeutic benefits can never be separated from their injurious effect. The supposed good intentions of mental health providers makes no difference, there is no safe way to administer these drugs except by letting them sit in the dark collecting dust never to go near living organisms. It is clear that they are tools of aggravated assault, sexual assault, rape, torture, permanent terrible incurable untreatable injury, strangulation and even murder/genocide. Everyone who experiences these injuries calls it "torture." They always interact, internally, with the human sex organs and sexual system. They do not produce such horrific, incurable, untreatable, long-term and sometimes permanent sexual injuries out of nowhere but as a result of repeated interaction with the human sex organs. Everyone who experiences these injuries feels severely violated. I have spoken with Sexual Assault experts and counselors and they agree, what has happened to us is without a doubt sexual assault if not rape, if not repeated sexual assault and rape. I argue that every single administration of these drugs is a attempted aggravated assault, attempted grievous injury, attempted sexual assault, attempted rape, attempted torture, attempted strangulation and even attempted murder and genocide. These antipsychotics cannot produce sexual pleasure, like sex toys for instance and they have no sexual health function, like a gynecological exam for instance. Given the numbers of people exposed to these antipsychotics across the world for endless decades, given the extensive proof of these injuries and given that mental health providers engage in irrefutably provable and willful deception and sabotage in regards to disclosing these risks and recognizing these injuries, they have no excuse: they know that these are unacceptably dangerous weapons and tools.

I am not against psychiatry and psychology but I am in fact the most pro psychiatry and psychology person on the earth since I am standing up for its own rules, the rules of medicine, law, truth and reason, human values and virtues, health, professionalism, business and so on. I stand up for effective and safe medicine and therapies and I stand up for what psychiatry and psychology should be but have long failed to be. I am not telling anyone to stop taking medication that provides them with irreplaceable therapy and benefits, I am merely telling us that we must fight against the dangers of dangerous medication, we must demand safer medication, we must demand justice for the crimes that have been committed against us, we must make sure the entire world acknowledges our injuries, we must get the help we deserve and we must secure the effective treatment/cure for our injuries that we deserve but thus far does not exist, owing at least to the negligence and lack of effort and even deception and sabotage of psychiatry, psychology and medicine.

In European Christianity, there has long developed what was known as just-war doctrine. This says that a person has to defend themselves when they are threatened with injury and/or death, because to fail to do so would be criminal to oneself and society. I am citing that same idea when I am asking all of you, who are victims and who know victims, to take action, instead of waiting around, sitting around doing absolutely nothing. Work on securing that treatment/cure, since none so far is known. Work on securing true justice and true help for yourselves.

Some moderators would warn against people contacting each other. Therefore, normally, I would tell each of you as individuals what you can do to secure healing, to secure justice and help. However, having done all these things myself, I can promise you that operating on your own will achieve, in all likelihood, zero success. If we are to have any chance of success, we must unite and work as a group to persuade any and everyone.

For local law firms and local government, they only respond to local constituencies and so people from afar who contact them will be ignored. However, we can still help each other by providing quotable and provable testimony that individuals within the constituency can share with their local law firms and government. When it comes to national government and national law firms and contacts of the type who do not have the ability to reject appeals from people based on the constituency excuse, we must work together.

You can DM me or see my website links in my signature for ideas on who to contact--government contacts, journalists and news media, law firms, the profession of psychology and psychiatry itself, business people, religious leaders, NGOs, psych-critical activists, etc.

Every single one of us should contact Janssen to report the problem
"1-800-526-7736 to speak to a clinical expert regarding your question or to report a possible adverse event or product quality complaint."

Every single one of us should submit a report about paliperidone to the FDA's MedWatch (if you are from the United States).

Mind Freedom International wants to hear from you and your stories, too:
[email protected]

[email protected]
Dr. David Healy, a Welsh psychiatrist practicing in Canada, wants to hear from all of you and your stories


Every single one of us should find our state (if you are in the United States) professional licensing organization/Medical Board to make a complaint about all mental health providers who administered paliperidone to you, because they are guilty without a doubt of severe injurious medical negligence and medical malpractice, if not countless other crimes--your state should also have a means of complaining about health care facilities, aka the clinics and hospitals who employed the mental health providers who injured you.

Every single one of us should seek legal help and talk to law firms, locally who can pursue personal injury and medical malpractice cases against said mental providers and their clinics and hospitals. Every single one of us should seek legal help from national law firms in order to file a suit against the pharmaceutical companies that make these injurious antipsychotics, in our case specifically, Janssen. Especially for the national law firms, especially for a class action suit, these are contingency based and would not require any financial investment from you, only you devoting your time, energy and disclosing some mental health records and medical records. For national law firms, we can and absolutely should work together and even settle on a few or one single law firm to represent us all, in the case of the United States. In the case of any of you being victims outside the United States, you'll have to team up with co-nationals who are victims and pursue these same avenues that exist in your jurisdiction.

Every single one of us should contact our national governments, national health services, national executives and national justice departments to tell our stories en masse--remember, if we are one at a time, they will ignore us. If we flood them together, they have less ability to ignore us.

When we flood the national and international news media, someone is bound to pick up our story. When our story breaks, the government can no longer ignore us since the public will now be aware.

Every single one of us should contact our local governments--local executives, local justice departments, local lawmakers. We need to use each others testimonies (since non-constituencies cannot contact local government) and we also need to organize and unite with fellow victims in the same local jurisdiction so we have a massive voice with local government that cannot be ignored. Otherwise, believe me, they will ignore us. We need to demand that they take action, that they enforce oversight on this out of control profession, that they take action to address these dangerous drugs and that they remove any statutes of limitation and damage caps that exist for these crimes, because there should be none. These doctors have committed, as I've said, aggravated assault, sexual assault, rape, torture, grievous injury, strangulation and even in some cases murder. Typically for these crimes very long statutes of limitation exist and sometimes none at all. The same goes for damage caps. These psychiatrists, psychologists, their staff and these pharmaceutical companies need to do the maximum prison time for their crimes--there is absolutely no question. Justice must be served, the monetary compensation not only for suffering and expenses but for ability to live is needed for all of us victims.

Every single one of us should unite to contact national leaders, business people, scientists and doctors to help research a cure/treatment for antipsychotic induced injuries, including depression and sexual dysfunction. We can all flood their contact information--email, mail, Linkedin, social media, phone numbers--en masse.

We should contact our religious authorities, too--they have an absolute obligation to help us. Again, if we only talk to them one by one, they will of course ignore us. If we flood them en massse, they cannot ignore us.

I am working on gathering more contact information, rather than just email, like mailing addresses, phone numbers, Linkedin and social media links.

Thank you
 
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20% have relapses...invega makes you customer 4 life
ya I think that’s what big pharma wants when they give out anti psychotics, anti depressants, benzodiazepines, opioids, amphetamines, mood stabilizers etc in general tbh it’s just like tobacco companies the more people they get dependent on the drugs for life the more $$$ comes in you gotta be smart and use the drugs for your own personal benefit don’t let yourself become dependent and let them make money off you ofc when it comes to CTO though not much you can do there.
 
Man, I miss the times I could sit 12 hours a day playing video games, now my crippled brain can't handle 30 min of gameplay damn
 
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ya I think that’s what big pharma wants when they give out anti psychotics, anti depressants, benzodiazepines, opioids, amphetamines, mood stabilizers etc in general tbh it’s just like tobacco companies the more people they get dependent on the drugs for life the more $$$ comes in you gotta be smart and use the drugs for your own personal benefit don’t let yourself become dependent and let them make money off you ofc when it comes to CTO though not much you can do there.
Over half of the people here are on CTO which sucks
 
Over half of the people here are on CTO which sucks
Ya that’s another dirty tactic they use to get custys for life tbh I have no idea how I didn’t get put on CTO I acted pretty violent in the psych ward in my psychotic state maybe it’s cause I’m white and the police give us breaks especially in the United States.
 
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I remember close to the end of a 3 month stay, an Australian doctor came in to replace the one I had seen for pretty much 2 and a half months straight. Really fucking inconvenient that this guy came to oversee my treatment considering the fact he only got to see me as an inpatient twice or some insignificant amount like that.

I don't have the details on his transfer, so I came up with all kinds of theories after he put me on Risperdal Consta. Like, maybe he was making bank from putting people on that medication. It wouldn't surprise me seeing as how that's not the fucking generic version of the drug. I was told later that Invega Sustenna is considered the generic version of Risperdal Consta. That kind of blew my mind. I was under the impression that generic drugs are basically the same as their advertised opponents.

Here's something, though: Risperdal Consta has to be refrigerated or will otherwise spoil. Makes me fucking shudder.
 
Art work plus music plus drugs like weed, shrooms, meth, is healing. Dopiminergically speaking, and spiritually.
I agree with all of that except for the meth part, meditation can help a lot listening to the mellow music with headphones on and breathing exercises is a good way to calm down and it’s good for your mind, body, and soul.
 
I remember close to the end of a 3 month stay, an Australian doctor came in to replace the one I had seen for pretty much 2 and a half months straight. Really fucking inconvenient that this guy came to oversee my treatment considering the fact he only got to see me as an inpatient twice or some insignificant amount like that.

I don't have the details on his transfer, so I came up with all kinds of theories after he put me on Risperdal Consta. Like, maybe he was making bank from putting people on that medication. It wouldn't surprise me seeing as how that's not the fucking generic version of the drug. I was told later that Invega Sustenna is considered the generic version of Risperdal Consta. That kind of blew my mind. I was under the impression that generic drugs are basically the same as their advertised opponents.

Here's something, though: Risperdal Consta has to be refrigerated or will otherwise spoil. Makes me fucking shudder.
Yeah the doctors and nurses are largely clueless. You can pass doctors off in the initial meetings by asking nurses if Depakote is a dopamine blocker.

I was being combative when I did that and she turned out to be nice. I made another nurse cry after she called police and injected me.

If you want out the psych ward.....it's better to be smart than right
 
Ya tbh the nurses seemed dumb asf in my ward all of them seemed miserable too like they hated their lives.

Yeah they are a pretty miserable bunch. One nurse in there after hearing me complain about how boring it was said to me what would you be doing if you where home? I said smoking weed, playing vid games and drinking. Instead of just taking it as a joke (well not really because that's what i like to do) she just said you shouldnt be doing that. Fuck they are all losers though

If that's the case, then it will take me around 4 years to recover from 7-8 shots?
If full recovery is real, then most likely sooner if I'm lucky...

I recovered from 3 shots of invega and about 18 shots of abilify in about 3 months. You can recover to
 
Yeah they are a pretty miserable bunch. One nurse in there after hearing me complain about how boring it was said to me what would you be doing if you where home? I said smoking weed, playing vid games and drinking. Instead of just taking it as a joke (well not really because that's what i like to do) she just said you shouldnt be doing that. Fuck they are all losers though



I recovered from 3 shots of invega and about 18 shots of abilify in about 3 months. You can recover to
Ya fr they’re the biggest low lives I’ve ever seen they get pleasure out of making you miserable cause they’re miserable themselves instead of working on improving their own lives just terrible people if hell is a thing that’s where they’re going I don’t believe in hell being an eternal thing but I do believe good and bad karma exists.
 
Ya they are just horrible people. The worst cunt of a nurse in there was this old bitch who would follow us around and bitch at us for smoking weed and cigs. She hated me and a few other guys there because we wherent suck ups like some people there. The people in the psych ward that are most fucked are those that actually like it in there. I could see if you where homeless or something liking it in there but these guys where not so theres no excuse. I mean who likes being fucking barked at and nagged all goddamn day by inferior people. Some cunts in there where total suck ups altogether it was sickening. When a chick in there grabbed me by the dick a asshole in there ratted her out to my shrink but i denied anything that happened. Don't know where these people came from where they think ratting is acceptable behavior.

Did they ever ask you stupid questions in there like how could this place be improved and shit? They would always ask that in our's and id always say well a mini bar would help lol. That and a playstation or xbox
Ya they did ask me how can this place be improved and I just straight up said better staff would be a huge improvement lmao, and yeah that is sickening to hear that these suck ups act that way they probably crave validation from anybody no matter what so they just suck dick and kiss ass even if it means ratting people out I have zero respect for people like that.
 
Ya they did ask me how can this place be improved and I just straight up said better staff would be a huge improvement lmao, and yeah that is sickening to hear that these suck ups act that way they probably crave validation from anybody no matter what so they just suck dick and kiss ass even if it means ratting people out I have zero respect for people like that.

Ya they would always ask us those stupid questions after snack time. If they actually wanna improve the place they could hire staff that where not such conservative . Thats the problem with those places treatment is stuck back in the fucking 30's basically. All the nurses did in there was bitch at us basically. They are building a new psych hospital here and they are always going on about how much better it will be but imo the problem is not with the building itself it's with the people that work in there and their attitudes. I mean being in there is hell enough why make it worse? Also some new shrinks who actually believe in stuff like ketamine treatment or psychedelics for depression would help to. The people that where in our psych ward the longest where people in for depression. One guy i was friends with in there was in for 4 goddamn years! Could you imagine doing 4 years in there? I couldnt. There is no need for it anyway as depression could be treated with ketamine or psychedelics on a outpatient basis. Though if i was getting ketamine treatment i might not mind inpatient actually lol

The rats and suck up's in there where the worst though. Some guys in there seemed to get a kick out of ratting. You couldnt beat them up either as you would likely get more time.
 
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Xeplion made me feel so uncomfortable when laying down in bed. It's only when I'm somewhat tired that I can lay down and eventually fall asleep.
Today I've had to get up from bed after taking a short nap and now I can't get back, I have to sit for a while before I'll be able to lay down again.
I remember how I was looking forward to get back home, lay down in bed and watch YouTube. Laying down in bed under the blanket should be the most comfortable thing, but not after that b*tch drug.
Life sucks now big time.
 
Xeplion made me feel so uncomfortable when laying down in bed. It's only when I'm somewhat tired that I can lay down and eventually fall asleep.
Today I've had to get up from bed after taking a short nap and now I can't get back, I have to sit for a while before I'll be able to lay down again.
I remember how I was looking forward to get back home, lay down in bed and watch YouTube. Laying down in bed under the blanket should be the most comfortable thing, but not after that b*tch drug.
Life sucks now big time.
I know this feeling, it passes. Hopefully for you it’ll pass shortly. It’s not quite the same as pre Invega though unfortunately
 
I know this feeling, it passes. Hopefully for you it’ll pass shortly. It’s not quite the same as pre Invega though unfortunately
I hope so too.
Sadly, it seems like it ain't gonna get back to what it was before.
Maybe dopamine is needed to feel rested or comfortable, idk. Or maybe GABA is blocked too. But it's all theories at this point.
I have to admit that this feeling is less intense than being on the shots... I'm on month 7 now, I wonder if it will subside completely by month 12...
 
I hope so too.
Sadly, it seems like it ain't gonna get back to what it was before.
Maybe dopamine is needed to feel rested or comfortable, idk. Or maybe GABA is blocked too. But it's all theories at this point.
I have to admit that this feeling is less intense than being on the shots... I'm on month 7 now, I wonder if it will subside completely by month 12...
You improvement is so small and gradual you barely notice it bro, but it will pass
 
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